I agree that this quote speaks against the idea that Lanfear burned out. On the other hand, I think it's unlikely that the Finn could still her, or that - if the Finn or someone else could still her - it would be different from burning out, if you are transmigrated.
Personally, I think that Lanfear was at least temporarily unable to channel or stunned, because of her fall through the melting doorway ter'angreal, holding an angreal with Moiraine, etc. . Otherwise I doubt that the Finn could hold her (Moiraine might still have been burned out, though). Eventually Lanfear was killed and transmigrated in a too small body, in which Lanfear's whole potential couldn't completely unfold. BS indicated that this is possible:
"Ability to Channel/Souls. I think this has all been reported, but he [BS] stated definitively that the ability to channel is tied to soul. He stated definitively that the spark was not tied to the soul but could be affected by a specific body (i.e., if you had the spark in one life, you could be reborn and just have the ability to learn.) He stated with 85% probability that strength in the Power was not tied to soul, meaning that if you were an uber-channeler in one body, you could be weak in the Power in your next body." [empasis mine]
I believe BS might have thought that Cyndane was "weak in the Power", because her body was that small compared to Lanfear's, but Maria convinced him that the drop wouldn't be that large.
Finally, Aginor died before he could actually burn out, IMO, which would fit with BS's quote.
Personally, I think that Lanfear was at least temporarily unable to channel or stunned, because of her fall through the melting doorway ter'angreal, holding an angreal with Moiraine, etc. . Otherwise I doubt that the Finn could hold her (Moiraine might still have been burned out, though). Eventually Lanfear was killed and transmigrated in a too small body, in which Lanfear's whole potential couldn't completely unfold. BS indicated that this is possible:
"Ability to Channel/Souls. I think this has all been reported, but he [BS] stated definitively that the ability to channel is tied to soul. He stated definitively that the spark was not tied to the soul but could be affected by a specific body (i.e., if you had the spark in one life, you could be reborn and just have the ability to learn.) He stated with 85% probability that strength in the Power was not tied to soul, meaning that if you were an uber-channeler in one body, you could be weak in the Power in your next body." [empasis mine]
I believe BS might have thought that Cyndane was "weak in the Power", because her body was that small compared to Lanfear's, but Maria convinced him that the drop wouldn't be that large.
Finally, Aginor died before he could actually burn out, IMO, which would fit with BS's quote.
My Lanfear/Cyndane theory has been disproven.
- 20/01/2010 05:12:58 PM
3006 Views
It was discussed
- 20/01/2010 05:27:43 PM
1335 Views
Re: It was discussed
- 20/01/2010 07:09:01 PM
1135 Views
Maybe...
- 20/01/2010 07:15:57 PM
1049 Views
Re: Maybe...
- 20/01/2010 08:53:47 PM
1101 Views
That doesn't really jive with Aran'gar though
- 20/01/2010 09:03:35 PM
1042 Views
But...
- 20/01/2010 09:11:47 PM
1013 Views
I think it's pretty obvious that pretty much any man is going to be
- 20/01/2010 09:41:40 PM
968 Views
Maybe there is a difference between male souls and female souls ...
- 20/01/2010 09:35:57 PM
1059 Views
Plausible
- 20/01/2010 09:45:21 PM
1155 Views
Actually, I didn't mean to imply that my idea of female strength is related to body size ...
- 20/01/2010 10:10:48 PM
1008 Views
It's NOT due to Stilling or Healing and it's NOT due to Cyndane's weaker body...
- 20/01/2010 06:46:08 PM
1162 Views
I think Moiraine's gaining strength seems a little too LotR.
- 20/01/2010 06:55:34 PM
1102 Views
I think Moraine gaining strength is VERY LotR. That's why I think RJ went with it... *NM*
- 20/01/2010 06:57:39 PM
619 Views
I also like that theory
- 20/01/2010 07:14:20 PM
1081 Views
I think BS's error regarding Cyndane's strength can also be explained by this theory...
- 20/01/2010 07:17:59 PM
1080 Views
Cadsuane is considerably stronger than Moiraine
- 20/01/2010 07:31:42 PM
1079 Views
Nope...
- 20/01/2010 07:38:55 PM
1070 Views
I disagree as usual
- 20/01/2010 07:45:29 PM
991 Views
We don't know the magnitude of what Aes Sedai consider a significant strength difference...
- 20/01/2010 07:54:38 PM
1050 Views
You are comparing Male and female strength here
- 20/01/2010 08:18:45 PM
1106 Views
Why do you misquote Moiraine?
- 20/01/2010 08:39:55 PM
1062 Views
Agreeing to disagree here ... we interpret the evidence differently and it's futile to argue.
- 20/01/2010 08:41:08 PM
1254 Views
Cadsuane isn't too strong
- 21/01/2010 04:19:41 AM
1068 Views
Actually...
- 21/01/2010 05:57:43 AM
1062 Views
Re: Actually...
- 21/01/2010 12:31:53 PM
1079 Views
Re: I think BS's error regarding Cyndane's strength can also be explained by this theory...
- 20/01/2010 07:43:28 PM
1067 Views
Agree with both your comments...
- 20/01/2010 07:46:07 PM
1085 Views
Hmm ... I think maybe BS DID know about Cyndane being stronger than Graendal ...
- 20/01/2010 09:20:31 PM
1052 Views
But seriously...
- 21/01/2010 12:14:16 PM
961 Views
Re: But seriously...
- 21/01/2010 12:34:18 PM
1149 Views
Also would explain the question of why Moiraine left the angreal on the wagon instead of using it...
- 21/01/2010 02:30:46 PM
1132 Views
I think it makes more sense...
- 21/01/2010 02:34:30 PM
1073 Views
Lanfear would have been toast if Moiraine had the angreal, plus foreknowledge of the confrontation..
- 21/01/2010 02:38:57 PM
1068 Views
In her letter to Thom
- 21/01/2010 02:55:32 PM
1084 Views
That's my interpretation, also ...
- 21/01/2010 04:00:35 PM
961 Views
Nods in agreement
- 21/01/2010 06:24:59 PM
1107 Views
I always figured Lanfear bargained away some power to escape the Finns
- 20/01/2010 07:37:31 PM
1083 Views
Re: My Lanfear/Cyndane theory has been disproven.
- 20/01/2010 07:51:38 PM
1342 Views
That idea has also been disproven ...
- 20/01/2010 08:19:22 PM
1191 Views
I think it may be more simple than it seems.
- 21/01/2010 04:15:05 PM
1137 Views
Doesn't fit with BS's words
- 21/01/2010 04:27:43 PM
981 Views
Also ...
- 21/01/2010 04:32:58 PM
944 Views
I don't think BS words or Cyndane's comments really prove anything.
- 21/01/2010 04:42:59 PM
1089 Views
BS says that Cyndane is truly weaker. So, this theory is out. *NM*
- 21/01/2010 04:46:48 PM
634 Views
Re: BS says that Cyndane is truly weaker. So, this theory is out.
- 21/01/2010 04:49:09 PM
1043 Views
Well, actually
- 21/01/2010 04:54:17 PM
973 Views
Re: Well, actually
- 21/01/2010 05:11:10 PM
994 Views
The wording is absolutely unambiguous, but I suppose one can argue everything.
*NM*
- 21/01/2010 05:24:03 PM
674 Views
*NM*
- 21/01/2010 05:24:03 PM
674 Views
Re: The wording is absolutely unambiguous, but I suppose one can argue everything.
- 21/01/2010 06:07:09 PM
1328 Views
- 21/01/2010 06:07:09 PM
1328 Views
I agree
- 21/01/2010 06:23:34 PM
1067 Views
Re: I agree
- 21/01/2010 07:59:36 PM
1064 Views
Re: I agree
- 22/01/2010 07:23:37 AM
975 Views
Re: I agree
- 22/01/2010 11:11:55 AM
1146 Views
LOL ... I love that you of all people are going to fall back on this argument!
- 22/01/2010 07:41:00 PM
1007 Views
Re: LOL ... I love that you of all people are going to fall back on this argument!
- 22/01/2010 08:05:08 PM
1138 Views
and you have zero evidence that Lanfear is considerably stronger than the others
- 22/01/2010 11:23:11 PM
889 Views
It's also a totally abstruse explanation, though, and therefore certainy wrong.
*NM*
- 22/01/2010 11:55:17 AM
856 Views
*NM*
- 22/01/2010 11:55:17 AM
856 Views
I think...
- 21/01/2010 06:46:57 PM
1007 Views
Re: I think...
- 21/01/2010 06:58:49 PM
915 Views
You are right...
- 21/01/2010 07:12:47 PM
1025 Views
Anyone who thinks she's hiding her strength is wrong
- 21/01/2010 08:09:42 PM
1263 Views
actually if one really wants to figure out what happened to Cyndane
- 21/01/2010 07:00:33 PM
1210 Views
Dumb question, but do transmigrated souls need to re-reach their full potential?
- 21/01/2010 06:19:57 PM
1044 Views
It seems like they start out as powerful as they were, but I don't think it's ever been stated *NM*
- 21/01/2010 06:44:45 PM
646 Views
