Hmm ... I think maybe BS DID know about Cyndane being stronger than Graendal ...
Shishka Send a noteboard - 20/01/2010 09:20:31 PM
1. I agree that BS obviously forgot about Graendal's placing of Cyndane above her.
I just went back and re-read the quotes where BS discussed thinking Cyndane was very weak. Here's the first part of the quote:
I did not think that Cyndane should be nearly as powerful as she was put in the books as being, so I had been under the belief that the Dark One was pulling shenanigans…
Note that he acknowledges that Cyndane was depicted as powerful in the books (including, presumably, that she is stronger than Graendal). He just thought that her strength was being enhanced by the DO (and, presumably, that Graendal detected her enhanced strength), and that her natural strength (which Graendal couldn't detect) was very weak. Here's the next part of that Q&A:
Matt: ...like a little, in essence, let’s say what the Forsaken Lanfear did to Asmodean, you thought maybe the Dark One was doing some similar…shielding…
Brandon: …or the other way around…here is a little extra Power you can draw upon while I am pleased with you, I can take this away…
Matt: ...that is a question…let’s jump to that question, there have been some theories that talk about Lanfear…
Brandon: ...let’s back up and say I was wrong. I was interpreting the notes a certain way. Maria was able to pull something out that I had not seen that made it clear that I had misinterpreted, and that that is not the case, Cyndane is not under any shenanigans. What you see is what you get.
That doesn't disprove your theory - BS could have thought that Cyndane's natural strength was very weak for the reason you suggest. I just thought it was worth clarifying.
I just went back and re-read the quotes where BS discussed thinking Cyndane was very weak. Here's the first part of the quote:
I did not think that Cyndane should be nearly as powerful as she was put in the books as being, so I had been under the belief that the Dark One was pulling shenanigans…
Note that he acknowledges that Cyndane was depicted as powerful in the books (including, presumably, that she is stronger than Graendal). He just thought that her strength was being enhanced by the DO (and, presumably, that Graendal detected her enhanced strength), and that her natural strength (which Graendal couldn't detect) was very weak. Here's the next part of that Q&A:
Matt: ...like a little, in essence, let’s say what the Forsaken Lanfear did to Asmodean, you thought maybe the Dark One was doing some similar…shielding…
Brandon: …or the other way around…here is a little extra Power you can draw upon while I am pleased with you, I can take this away…
Matt: ...that is a question…let’s jump to that question, there have been some theories that talk about Lanfear…
Brandon: ...let’s back up and say I was wrong. I was interpreting the notes a certain way. Maria was able to pull something out that I had not seen that made it clear that I had misinterpreted, and that that is not the case, Cyndane is not under any shenanigans. What you see is what you get.
That doesn't disprove your theory - BS could have thought that Cyndane's natural strength was very weak for the reason you suggest. I just thought it was worth clarifying.
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My Lanfear/Cyndane theory has been disproven.
20/01/2010 05:12:58 PM
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It was discussed
20/01/2010 05:27:43 PM
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Re: It was discussed
20/01/2010 07:09:01 PM
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Maybe...
20/01/2010 07:15:57 PM
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Re: Maybe...
20/01/2010 08:53:47 PM
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That doesn't really jive with Aran'gar though
20/01/2010 09:03:35 PM
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But...
20/01/2010 09:11:47 PM
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I think it's pretty obvious that pretty much any man is going to be
20/01/2010 09:41:40 PM
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Maybe there is a difference between male souls and female souls ...
20/01/2010 09:35:57 PM
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Plausible
20/01/2010 09:45:21 PM
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Actually, I didn't mean to imply that my idea of female strength is related to body size ...
20/01/2010 10:10:48 PM
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It's NOT due to Stilling or Healing and it's NOT due to Cyndane's weaker body...
20/01/2010 06:46:08 PM
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I think Moiraine's gaining strength seems a little too LotR.
20/01/2010 06:55:34 PM
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I think Moraine gaining strength is VERY LotR. That's why I think RJ went with it... *NM*
20/01/2010 06:57:39 PM
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I also like that theory
20/01/2010 07:14:20 PM
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I think BS's error regarding Cyndane's strength can also be explained by this theory...
20/01/2010 07:17:59 PM
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Cadsuane is considerably stronger than Moiraine
20/01/2010 07:31:42 PM
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Nope...
20/01/2010 07:38:55 PM
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I disagree as usual
20/01/2010 07:45:29 PM
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We don't know the magnitude of what Aes Sedai consider a significant strength difference...
20/01/2010 07:54:38 PM
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You are comparing Male and female strength here
20/01/2010 08:18:45 PM
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Why do you misquote Moiraine?
20/01/2010 08:39:55 PM
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Agreeing to disagree here ... we interpret the evidence differently and it's futile to argue.
20/01/2010 08:41:08 PM
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Cadsuane isn't too strong
21/01/2010 04:19:41 AM
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Actually...
21/01/2010 05:57:43 AM
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Re: Actually...
21/01/2010 12:31:53 PM
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Re: I think BS's error regarding Cyndane's strength can also be explained by this theory...
20/01/2010 07:43:28 PM
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Agree with both your comments...
20/01/2010 07:46:07 PM
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Hmm ... I think maybe BS DID know about Cyndane being stronger than Graendal ...
20/01/2010 09:20:31 PM
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But seriously...
21/01/2010 12:14:16 PM
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Re: But seriously...
21/01/2010 12:34:18 PM
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Also would explain the question of why Moiraine left the angreal on the wagon instead of using it...
21/01/2010 02:30:46 PM
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I think it makes more sense...
21/01/2010 02:34:30 PM
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Lanfear would have been toast if Moiraine had the angreal, plus foreknowledge of the confrontation..
21/01/2010 02:38:57 PM
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In her letter to Thom
21/01/2010 02:55:32 PM
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That's my interpretation, also ...
21/01/2010 04:00:35 PM
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Nods in agreement
21/01/2010 06:24:59 PM
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I always figured Lanfear bargained away some power to escape the Finns
20/01/2010 07:37:31 PM
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Re: My Lanfear/Cyndane theory has been disproven.
20/01/2010 07:51:38 PM
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That idea has also been disproven ...
20/01/2010 08:19:22 PM
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I think it may be more simple than it seems.
21/01/2010 04:15:05 PM
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Doesn't fit with BS's words
21/01/2010 04:27:43 PM
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Also ...
21/01/2010 04:32:58 PM
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I don't think BS words or Cyndane's comments really prove anything.
21/01/2010 04:42:59 PM
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BS says that Cyndane is truly weaker. So, this theory is out. *NM*
21/01/2010 04:46:48 PM
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Re: BS says that Cyndane is truly weaker. So, this theory is out.
21/01/2010 04:49:09 PM
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Well, actually
21/01/2010 04:54:17 PM
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Re: Well, actually
21/01/2010 05:11:10 PM
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The wording is absolutely unambiguous, but I suppose one can argue everything. *NM*
21/01/2010 05:24:03 PM
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Re: The wording is absolutely unambiguous, but I suppose one can argue everything.
21/01/2010 06:07:09 PM
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I agree
21/01/2010 06:23:34 PM
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Re: I agree
21/01/2010 07:59:36 PM
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Re: I agree
22/01/2010 07:23:37 AM
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Re: I agree
22/01/2010 11:11:55 AM
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LOL ... I love that you of all people are going to fall back on this argument!
22/01/2010 07:41:00 PM
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Re: LOL ... I love that you of all people are going to fall back on this argument!
22/01/2010 08:05:08 PM
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and you have zero evidence that Lanfear is considerably stronger than the others
22/01/2010 11:23:11 PM
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It's also a totally abstruse explanation, though, and therefore certainy wrong. *NM*
22/01/2010 11:55:17 AM
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I think...
21/01/2010 06:46:57 PM
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Re: I think...
21/01/2010 06:58:49 PM
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You are right...
21/01/2010 07:12:47 PM
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Anyone who thinks she's hiding her strength is wrong
21/01/2010 08:09:42 PM
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actually if one really wants to figure out what happened to Cyndane
21/01/2010 07:00:33 PM
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Dumb question, but do transmigrated souls need to re-reach their full potential?
21/01/2010 06:19:57 PM
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It seems like they start out as powerful as they were, but I don't think it's ever been stated *NM*
21/01/2010 06:44:45 PM
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