Moiraine tells that "events must play out in certain ways, whatever the costs."
Apparently Moiraine saw that this attack is, what she has to do. It obviously also fits with the Prophecies that Mat has to sacrifice his eye, because that would only happen if Moiraine is captured in Finnland.
Besides, I think the fact that Moiraine mentions costs and suppresses a bubble of hope (since this would be luxury), does speak against the idea that she actually knew that she would gain considerable OP strength and very well could be rescued. IMO, it was a big sacrifice by Moiraine; likely she sacrificed her ability to OP.
Apparently Moiraine saw that this attack is, what she has to do. It obviously also fits with the Prophecies that Mat has to sacrifice his eye, because that would only happen if Moiraine is captured in Finnland.
Besides, I think the fact that Moiraine mentions costs and suppresses a bubble of hope (since this would be luxury), does speak against the idea that she actually knew that she would gain considerable OP strength and very well could be rescued. IMO, it was a big sacrifice by Moiraine; likely she sacrificed her ability to OP.
Given the tenuous nature of her relationship with Rand, she might have thought she'd ruin any chance she had with him if she killed Lanfear (and she might not have trusted that he would attack Lanfear or even stand by and let the women attack her).
There was a real and plausible chance that Rand would have chosen that moment to join forces with Lanfear, and to join the Shadow. It was one of the potential futures thrown out by the ter'angreal. If Moiraine had harmed or snared Mierin, there was a possibility that it would have resurrected old feeling in Lews Therin, and caused him to turn - either by helping Lanfear or killing Moiraine. Moiraine almost certainly knew this, which is why she wrote that events had to play out in a certain way. The other alternative that Moiraine saw was that Rand would risk his own safety to help her, and that was the third viewing, where Rand was killed by Lanfear.
Moiraine knew that there was only one way to defeat Lanfear.
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My Lanfear/Cyndane theory has been disproven.
- 20/01/2010 05:12:58 PM
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It was discussed
- 20/01/2010 05:27:43 PM
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Re: It was discussed
- 20/01/2010 07:09:01 PM
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Maybe...
- 20/01/2010 07:15:57 PM
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Re: Maybe...
- 20/01/2010 08:53:47 PM
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That doesn't really jive with Aran'gar though
- 20/01/2010 09:03:35 PM
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But...
- 20/01/2010 09:11:47 PM
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I think it's pretty obvious that pretty much any man is going to be
- 20/01/2010 09:41:40 PM
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Maybe there is a difference between male souls and female souls ...
- 20/01/2010 09:35:57 PM
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Plausible
- 20/01/2010 09:45:21 PM
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Actually, I didn't mean to imply that my idea of female strength is related to body size ...
- 20/01/2010 10:10:48 PM
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It's NOT due to Stilling or Healing and it's NOT due to Cyndane's weaker body...
- 20/01/2010 06:46:08 PM
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I think Moiraine's gaining strength seems a little too LotR.
- 20/01/2010 06:55:34 PM
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I think Moraine gaining strength is VERY LotR. That's why I think RJ went with it... *NM*
- 20/01/2010 06:57:39 PM
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I also like that theory
- 20/01/2010 07:14:20 PM
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I think BS's error regarding Cyndane's strength can also be explained by this theory...
- 20/01/2010 07:17:59 PM
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Cadsuane is considerably stronger than Moiraine
- 20/01/2010 07:31:42 PM
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Nope...
- 20/01/2010 07:38:55 PM
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I disagree as usual
- 20/01/2010 07:45:29 PM
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We don't know the magnitude of what Aes Sedai consider a significant strength difference...
- 20/01/2010 07:54:38 PM
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You are comparing Male and female strength here
- 20/01/2010 08:18:45 PM
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Why do you misquote Moiraine?
- 20/01/2010 08:39:55 PM
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Agreeing to disagree here ... we interpret the evidence differently and it's futile to argue.
- 20/01/2010 08:41:08 PM
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Cadsuane isn't too strong
- 21/01/2010 04:19:41 AM
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Actually...
- 21/01/2010 05:57:43 AM
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Re: Actually...
- 21/01/2010 12:31:53 PM
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Re: I think BS's error regarding Cyndane's strength can also be explained by this theory...
- 20/01/2010 07:43:28 PM
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Agree with both your comments...
- 20/01/2010 07:46:07 PM
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Hmm ... I think maybe BS DID know about Cyndane being stronger than Graendal ...
- 20/01/2010 09:20:31 PM
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But seriously...
- 21/01/2010 12:14:16 PM
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Re: But seriously...
- 21/01/2010 12:34:18 PM
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Also would explain the question of why Moiraine left the angreal on the wagon instead of using it...
- 21/01/2010 02:30:46 PM
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I think it makes more sense...
- 21/01/2010 02:34:30 PM
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Lanfear would have been toast if Moiraine had the angreal, plus foreknowledge of the confrontation..
- 21/01/2010 02:38:57 PM
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In her letter to Thom
- 21/01/2010 02:55:32 PM
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One other tiny thing
- 21/01/2010 03:18:03 PM
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Yes, and that is often overlooked
- 21/01/2010 04:48:08 PM
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That's my interpretation, also ...
- 21/01/2010 04:00:35 PM
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Nods in agreement
- 21/01/2010 06:24:59 PM
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I always figured Lanfear bargained away some power to escape the Finns
- 20/01/2010 07:37:31 PM
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Re: My Lanfear/Cyndane theory has been disproven.
- 20/01/2010 07:51:38 PM
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That idea has also been disproven ...
- 20/01/2010 08:19:22 PM
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I think it may be more simple than it seems.
- 21/01/2010 04:15:05 PM
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Doesn't fit with BS's words
- 21/01/2010 04:27:43 PM
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Also ...
- 21/01/2010 04:32:58 PM
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I don't think BS words or Cyndane's comments really prove anything.
- 21/01/2010 04:42:59 PM
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BS says that Cyndane is truly weaker. So, this theory is out. *NM*
- 21/01/2010 04:46:48 PM
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Re: BS says that Cyndane is truly weaker. So, this theory is out.
- 21/01/2010 04:49:09 PM
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Well, actually
- 21/01/2010 04:54:17 PM
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Re: Well, actually
- 21/01/2010 05:11:10 PM
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The wording is absolutely unambiguous, but I suppose one can argue everything.
*NM*
- 21/01/2010 05:24:03 PM
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*NM*
- 21/01/2010 05:24:03 PM
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Re: The wording is absolutely unambiguous, but I suppose one can argue everything.
- 21/01/2010 06:07:09 PM
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- 21/01/2010 06:07:09 PM
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I agree
- 21/01/2010 06:23:34 PM
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Re: I agree
- 21/01/2010 07:59:36 PM
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Re: I agree
- 22/01/2010 07:23:37 AM
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Re: I agree
- 22/01/2010 11:11:55 AM
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LOL ... I love that you of all people are going to fall back on this argument!
- 22/01/2010 07:41:00 PM
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Re: LOL ... I love that you of all people are going to fall back on this argument!
- 22/01/2010 08:05:08 PM
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and you have zero evidence that Lanfear is considerably stronger than the others
- 22/01/2010 11:23:11 PM
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It's also a totally abstruse explanation, though, and therefore certainy wrong.
*NM*
- 22/01/2010 11:55:17 AM
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*NM*
- 22/01/2010 11:55:17 AM
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I think...
- 21/01/2010 06:46:57 PM
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Re: I think...
- 21/01/2010 06:58:49 PM
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You are right...
- 21/01/2010 07:12:47 PM
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Anyone who thinks she's hiding her strength is wrong
- 21/01/2010 08:09:42 PM
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actually if one really wants to figure out what happened to Cyndane
- 21/01/2010 07:00:33 PM
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Dumb question, but do transmigrated souls need to re-reach their full potential?
- 21/01/2010 06:19:57 PM
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It seems like they start out as powerful as they were, but I don't think it's ever been stated *NM*
- 21/01/2010 06:44:45 PM
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