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Dude... fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 21/01/2010 08:51:08 PM
Cyndane herself said she's weaker in WH (With the Choedan Kal). What's the point in entertaining theories that are blatantly contradicted by the character in question's own PoV?

It's extremely frustrating to read theories that are based on ideas that deliberately contradict plain statements. What's the point in Brandon or RJ answering questions if people think they're lying, being devious, or giving double meanings? Brandon gave a detailed answer regarding Cyndane.

This much I can agree with, though your own dismissal of RJ's statements on OP strength makes me question what right you have to say this. But..
It's like he told us about Shadar Haran and Elza directly in two answers and how they freed Semirhage, and suddenly people are throwing in a whole chain of people who were helping without any evidence. Next we'll have Cenn Buie involved in Semirhage's escape. I also think that Osan'gar was Asmodean. Yes, he spoke about being the inventor of trollocs, but I think he was acting to throw us off the trail. He can channel saidin and is very strong. That's a clue.

This is pure nonsense. BS is in no way obligated to mention every player involved in that scene. He merely confirmed that Elza and SH were. He didn't say Moridin, but he at least is very obviously involved, if only behind the scenes.

The involvement of Graendal (unlike Cenn Buie's or the farmer in Salesin's) is indicated by other things, and in no way contradicted by Brandon's statements. Throwing a fit doesn't change that fact.
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My Lanfear/Cyndane theory has been disproven. Shishka - 20/01/2010 05:12:58 PM 2986 Views
It was discussed Etzel - 20/01/2010 05:27:43 PM 1304 Views
Re: It was discussed Shishka - 20/01/2010 07:09:01 PM 1108 Views
Maybe... Etzel - 20/01/2010 07:15:57 PM 1026 Views
Re: Maybe... Shishka - 20/01/2010 08:53:47 PM 1078 Views
Yeah, that would be a possibility! *NM* Etzel - 20/01/2010 09:01:26 PM 1004 Views
That doesn't really jive with Aran'gar though darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 09:03:35 PM 1023 Views
But... Etzel - 20/01/2010 09:11:47 PM 991 Views
I think it's pretty obvious that pretty much any man is going to be darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 09:41:40 PM 943 Views
The idea behind this theory is... Etzel - 21/01/2010 07:15:19 AM 1167 Views
Maybe there is a difference between male souls and female souls ... Shishka - 20/01/2010 09:35:57 PM 1032 Views
Plausible darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 09:45:21 PM 1133 Views
Actually, I didn't mean to imply that my idea of female strength is related to body size ... Shishka - 20/01/2010 10:10:48 PM 990 Views
LOL ... I hear ya on that darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 10:17:02 PM 1063 Views
I'm so pleased this theory is false! darius_sedai - 12/12/2010 05:00:06 PM 918 Views
people didn't like it when I proposed it kcf - 20/01/2010 05:31:18 PM 1338 Views
Thanks. Shishka - 20/01/2010 08:36:58 PM 1149 Views
I don't like the idea that she was healed by a woman Skeeve the Great - 20/01/2010 05:48:19 PM 1095 Views
I agree, and it seems unlikely that a new "better" method darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 06:07:04 PM 1011 Views
It's NOT due to Stilling or Healing and it's NOT due to Cyndane's weaker body... Shannow - 20/01/2010 06:46:08 PM 1134 Views
I think Moiraine's gaining strength seems a little too LotR. darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 06:55:34 PM 1077 Views
I think Moraine gaining strength is VERY LotR. That's why I think RJ went with it... *NM* Shannow - 20/01/2010 06:57:39 PM 612 Views
yet he moved away from LotR very early in the series *NM* darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 06:59:05 PM 573 Views
I also like that theory Sidious - 20/01/2010 07:14:20 PM 1051 Views
I think BS's error regarding Cyndane's strength can also be explained by this theory... Shannow - 20/01/2010 07:17:59 PM 1047 Views
Yes perhaps Sidious - 20/01/2010 07:25:06 PM 1057 Views
Cadsuane is considerably stronger than Moiraine darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 07:31:42 PM 1060 Views
Nope... Shannow - 20/01/2010 07:38:55 PM 1046 Views
I disagree as usual darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 07:45:29 PM 968 Views
We don't know the magnitude of what Aes Sedai consider a significant strength difference... Shannow - 20/01/2010 07:54:38 PM 1031 Views
You are comparing Male and female strength here darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 08:18:45 PM 1080 Views
Why do you misquote Moiraine? Shannow - 20/01/2010 08:39:55 PM 1043 Views
Agreeing to disagree here ... we interpret the evidence differently and it's futile to argue. darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 08:41:08 PM 1226 Views
Cadsuane isn't too strong Sidious - 21/01/2010 04:19:41 AM 1039 Views
Actually... fionwe1987 - 21/01/2010 05:57:43 AM 1039 Views
Re: Actually... Sidious - 21/01/2010 12:31:53 PM 1055 Views
Sorry, that was the Glossary... fionwe1987 - 21/01/2010 08:07:56 PM 922 Views
Sidious - 22/01/2010 11:05:23 AM 1104 Views
So Glossary or character? fionwe1987 - 22/01/2010 10:22:15 PM 812 Views
Re: Actually... The_Archer - 12/12/2010 04:42:22 PM 1062 Views
Re: I think BS's error regarding Cyndane's strength can also be explained by this theory... Shishka - 20/01/2010 07:43:28 PM 1052 Views
Agree with both your comments... Shannow - 20/01/2010 07:46:07 PM 1056 Views
Re: Agree with both your comments... Shishka - 20/01/2010 08:24:16 PM 1073 Views
Hmm ... I think maybe BS DID know about Cyndane being stronger than Graendal ... Shishka - 20/01/2010 09:20:31 PM 1022 Views
But seriously... Etzel - 21/01/2010 12:14:16 PM 934 Views
Re: But seriously... Sidious - 21/01/2010 12:34:18 PM 1121 Views
I don't think it has to be so unique... Etzel - 21/01/2010 01:13:00 PM 1069 Views
Re: I don't think it has to be so unique... Sidious - 21/01/2010 04:49:42 PM 1075 Views
Also would explain the question of why Moiraine left the angreal on the wagon instead of using it... Shannow - 21/01/2010 02:30:46 PM 1088 Views
I think it makes more sense... Etzel - 21/01/2010 02:34:30 PM 1046 Views
Lanfear would have been toast if Moiraine had the angreal, plus foreknowledge of the confrontation.. Shannow - 21/01/2010 02:38:57 PM 1047 Views
In her letter to Thom Etzel - 21/01/2010 02:55:32 PM 1056 Views
One other tiny thing Sareitha Sedai - 21/01/2010 03:18:03 PM 983 Views
Yes, and that is often overlooked Sidious - 21/01/2010 04:48:08 PM 950 Views
That's my interpretation, also ... Shishka - 21/01/2010 04:00:35 PM 932 Views
Nods in agreement darius_sedai - 21/01/2010 06:24:59 PM 1075 Views
I think the "bubble of hope" was simply ... Shishka - 21/01/2010 07:08:44 PM 874 Views
Agreed *NM* darius_sedai - 21/01/2010 11:38:43 PM 580 Views
No, I don't think so Sidious - 21/01/2010 04:43:53 PM 1117 Views
I always figured Lanfear bargained away some power to escape the Finns beetnemesis - 20/01/2010 07:37:31 PM 1059 Views
But... Etzel - 20/01/2010 07:50:14 PM 1073 Views
Re: My Lanfear/Cyndane theory has been disproven. callandor1000 - 20/01/2010 07:51:38 PM 1316 Views
That idea has also been disproven ... Shishka - 20/01/2010 08:19:22 PM 1169 Views
Agreed... Etzel - 20/01/2010 08:36:47 PM 922 Views
Yeah ... Shishka - 20/01/2010 08:43:24 PM 1060 Views
The closest I ever saw was the "Lightfriend/Purple Ajah" theory darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 08:46:20 PM 1294 Views
Yeah, the Verin revelation was cool... Etzel - 20/01/2010 08:48:53 PM 1015 Views
Re: That idea has also been disproven ... callandor1000 - 21/01/2010 05:12:45 PM 993 Views
I think it may be more simple than it seems. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 04:15:05 PM 1121 Views
Doesn't fit with BS's words Etzel - 21/01/2010 04:27:43 PM 954 Views
Also ... Shishka - 21/01/2010 04:32:58 PM 927 Views
I don't think BS words or Cyndane's comments really prove anything. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 04:42:59 PM 1069 Views
BS says that Cyndane is truly weaker. So, this theory is out. *NM* Etzel - 21/01/2010 04:46:48 PM 626 Views
Re: BS says that Cyndane is truly weaker. So, this theory is out. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 04:49:09 PM 1028 Views
Well, actually Etzel - 21/01/2010 04:54:17 PM 948 Views
Re: Well, actually RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 05:11:10 PM 968 Views
The wording is absolutely unambiguous, but I suppose one can argue everything. *NM* Etzel - 21/01/2010 05:24:03 PM 655 Views
Re: The wording is absolutely unambiguous, but I suppose one can argue everything. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 06:07:09 PM 1308 Views
I agree darius_sedai - 21/01/2010 06:23:34 PM 1045 Views
Re: I agree Sidious - 21/01/2010 07:59:36 PM 1036 Views
Re: I agree darius_sedai - 22/01/2010 07:23:37 AM 956 Views
Re: I agree Sidious - 22/01/2010 11:11:55 AM 1119 Views
LOL ... I love that you of all people are going to fall back on this argument! darius_sedai - 22/01/2010 07:41:00 PM 990 Views
Re: LOL ... I love that you of all people are going to fall back on this argument! Sidious - 22/01/2010 08:05:08 PM 1111 Views
and you have zero evidence that Lanfear is considerably stronger than the others darius_sedai - 22/01/2010 11:23:11 PM 861 Views
It's also a totally abstruse explanation, though, and therefore certainy wrong. *NM* Etzel - 22/01/2010 11:55:17 AM 834 Views
I think... Etzel - 21/01/2010 06:46:57 PM 990 Views
Re: I think... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 06:58:49 PM 888 Views
You are right... Etzel - 21/01/2010 07:12:47 PM 999 Views
Re: You are right... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 07:21:00 PM 1094 Views
Anyone who thinks she's hiding her strength is wrong Sidious - 21/01/2010 08:09:42 PM 1244 Views
Indeed, it's pretty idiotic. *NM* Etzel - 21/01/2010 08:19:53 PM 529 Views
Dude... fionwe1987 - 21/01/2010 08:51:08 PM 1024 Views
Re: Dude... Sidious - 22/01/2010 11:14:08 AM 1070 Views
Re: Dude... fionwe1987 - 22/01/2010 10:21:15 PM 1194 Views
Meh RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 11:19:16 PM 890 Views
Re: Meh Sidious - 22/01/2010 11:15:20 AM 1044 Views
Re: Meh RugbyPlayingAshaman - 22/01/2010 03:09:10 PM 973 Views
Re: Meh Sidious - 22/01/2010 04:15:51 PM 1001 Views
actually if one really wants to figure out what happened to Cyndane darius_sedai - 21/01/2010 07:00:33 PM 1188 Views
Dumb question, but do transmigrated souls need to re-reach their full potential? Gher - 21/01/2010 06:19:57 PM 1025 Views
It seems like they start out as powerful as they were, but I don't think it's ever been stated *NM* darius_sedai - 21/01/2010 06:44:45 PM 638 Views
Agreed. *NM* Shishka - 21/01/2010 07:03:13 PM 550 Views
That's what I thought. *NM* Gher - 21/01/2010 10:05:38 PM 566 Views
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