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Re: I agree darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 22/01/2010 07:23:37 AM

Except that angreal don't increase your measured potential, and we have Graendal to thank for that quote. We have more than one separate quote stating that Cyndane is weaker than Lanfear, including one from Cyndane herself.


you misunderstand. Lanfear was known to "hide her true power" ... we know that a woman can hide part of her strength. We know that Lanfear was tricky. The theory here (Linda at 13th Dep I think put it out there) is that Lanfear may have pulled off a great ruse. She let women think she was hiding part of her true strength with such a weave but used an angreal to pull more Power than her potential allowed, with the point of women thinking she was actually stronger than she really was ... it's a total long shot IMO, but it's an explanation of Lanfear v. Cyndane strength.

On the other hand, some posters don't accept the most blatantly unambigious answers from the horse's mouth.


and some posters believe whatever they want too ... or disregard one quote because another suits their thoughts more closely. I'm just saying both RJ and Bsand seemed to give answers which deliberately had more than one interpretation.
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My Lanfear/Cyndane theory has been disproven. Shishka - 20/01/2010 05:12:58 PM 2896 Views
It was discussed Etzel - 20/01/2010 05:27:43 PM 1227 Views
Re: It was discussed Shishka - 20/01/2010 07:09:01 PM 1015 Views
Maybe... Etzel - 20/01/2010 07:15:57 PM 955 Views
Re: Maybe... Shishka - 20/01/2010 08:53:47 PM 1011 Views
Yeah, that would be a possibility! *NM* Etzel - 20/01/2010 09:01:26 PM 939 Views
That doesn't really jive with Aran'gar though darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 09:03:35 PM 952 Views
But... Etzel - 20/01/2010 09:11:47 PM 924 Views
I think it's pretty obvious that pretty much any man is going to be darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 09:41:40 PM 877 Views
The idea behind this theory is... Etzel - 21/01/2010 07:15:19 AM 1066 Views
Maybe there is a difference between male souls and female souls ... Shishka - 20/01/2010 09:35:57 PM 953 Views
Plausible darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 09:45:21 PM 1057 Views
Actually, I didn't mean to imply that my idea of female strength is related to body size ... Shishka - 20/01/2010 10:10:48 PM 928 Views
LOL ... I hear ya on that darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 10:17:02 PM 987 Views
I'm so pleased this theory is false! darius_sedai - 12/12/2010 05:00:06 PM 848 Views
people didn't like it when I proposed it kcf - 20/01/2010 05:31:18 PM 1208 Views
Thanks. Shishka - 20/01/2010 08:36:58 PM 1066 Views
I don't like the idea that she was healed by a woman Skeeve the Great - 20/01/2010 05:48:19 PM 1018 Views
I agree, and it seems unlikely that a new "better" method darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 06:07:04 PM 928 Views
It's NOT due to Stilling or Healing and it's NOT due to Cyndane's weaker body... Shannow - 20/01/2010 06:46:08 PM 1056 Views
I think Moiraine's gaining strength seems a little too LotR. darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 06:55:34 PM 960 Views
I think Moraine gaining strength is VERY LotR. That's why I think RJ went with it... *NM* Shannow - 20/01/2010 06:57:39 PM 577 Views
yet he moved away from LotR very early in the series *NM* darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 06:59:05 PM 540 Views
I also like that theory Sidious - 20/01/2010 07:14:20 PM 991 Views
I think BS's error regarding Cyndane's strength can also be explained by this theory... Shannow - 20/01/2010 07:17:59 PM 954 Views
Yes perhaps Sidious - 20/01/2010 07:25:06 PM 985 Views
Cadsuane is considerably stronger than Moiraine darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 07:31:42 PM 963 Views
Nope... Shannow - 20/01/2010 07:38:55 PM 943 Views
I disagree as usual darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 07:45:29 PM 861 Views
We don't know the magnitude of what Aes Sedai consider a significant strength difference... Shannow - 20/01/2010 07:54:38 PM 937 Views
You are comparing Male and female strength here darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 08:18:45 PM 992 Views
Why do you misquote Moiraine? Shannow - 20/01/2010 08:39:55 PM 957 Views
Agreeing to disagree here ... we interpret the evidence differently and it's futile to argue. darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 08:41:08 PM 1125 Views
Cadsuane isn't too strong Sidious - 21/01/2010 04:19:41 AM 967 Views
Actually... fionwe1987 - 21/01/2010 05:57:43 AM 966 Views
Re: Actually... Sidious - 21/01/2010 12:31:53 PM 981 Views
Sorry, that was the Glossary... fionwe1987 - 21/01/2010 08:07:56 PM 864 Views
Sidious - 22/01/2010 11:05:23 AM 1034 Views
So Glossary or character? fionwe1987 - 22/01/2010 10:22:15 PM 742 Views
Re: Actually... The_Archer - 12/12/2010 04:42:22 PM 979 Views
Re: I think BS's error regarding Cyndane's strength can also be explained by this theory... Shishka - 20/01/2010 07:43:28 PM 964 Views
Agree with both your comments... Shannow - 20/01/2010 07:46:07 PM 954 Views
Re: Agree with both your comments... Shishka - 20/01/2010 08:24:16 PM 1009 Views
Hmm ... I think maybe BS DID know about Cyndane being stronger than Graendal ... Shishka - 20/01/2010 09:20:31 PM 952 Views
But seriously... Etzel - 21/01/2010 12:14:16 PM 845 Views
Re: But seriously... Sidious - 21/01/2010 12:34:18 PM 1029 Views
I don't think it has to be so unique... Etzel - 21/01/2010 01:13:00 PM 977 Views
Re: I don't think it has to be so unique... Sidious - 21/01/2010 04:49:42 PM 975 Views
Also would explain the question of why Moiraine left the angreal on the wagon instead of using it... Shannow - 21/01/2010 02:30:46 PM 973 Views
I think it makes more sense... Etzel - 21/01/2010 02:34:30 PM 979 Views
Lanfear would have been toast if Moiraine had the angreal, plus foreknowledge of the confrontation.. Shannow - 21/01/2010 02:38:57 PM 963 Views
In her letter to Thom Etzel - 21/01/2010 02:55:32 PM 975 Views
One other tiny thing Sareitha Sedai - 21/01/2010 03:18:03 PM 918 Views
Yes, and that is often overlooked Sidious - 21/01/2010 04:48:08 PM 859 Views
That's my interpretation, also ... Shishka - 21/01/2010 04:00:35 PM 840 Views
Nods in agreement darius_sedai - 21/01/2010 06:24:59 PM 999 Views
I think the "bubble of hope" was simply ... Shishka - 21/01/2010 07:08:44 PM 789 Views
Agreed *NM* darius_sedai - 21/01/2010 11:38:43 PM 552 Views
No, I don't think so Sidious - 21/01/2010 04:43:53 PM 1031 Views
I always figured Lanfear bargained away some power to escape the Finns beetnemesis - 20/01/2010 07:37:31 PM 953 Views
But... Etzel - 20/01/2010 07:50:14 PM 997 Views
Re: My Lanfear/Cyndane theory has been disproven. callandor1000 - 20/01/2010 07:51:38 PM 1219 Views
That idea has also been disproven ... Shishka - 20/01/2010 08:19:22 PM 1077 Views
Agreed... Etzel - 20/01/2010 08:36:47 PM 842 Views
Yeah ... Shishka - 20/01/2010 08:43:24 PM 990 Views
The closest I ever saw was the "Lightfriend/Purple Ajah" theory darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 08:46:20 PM 1228 Views
Yeah, the Verin revelation was cool... Etzel - 20/01/2010 08:48:53 PM 945 Views
Re: That idea has also been disproven ... callandor1000 - 21/01/2010 05:12:45 PM 922 Views
I think it may be more simple than it seems. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 04:15:05 PM 1051 Views
Doesn't fit with BS's words Etzel - 21/01/2010 04:27:43 PM 869 Views
Also ... Shishka - 21/01/2010 04:32:58 PM 842 Views
I don't think BS words or Cyndane's comments really prove anything. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 04:42:59 PM 978 Views
BS says that Cyndane is truly weaker. So, this theory is out. *NM* Etzel - 21/01/2010 04:46:48 PM 595 Views
Re: BS says that Cyndane is truly weaker. So, this theory is out. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 04:49:09 PM 959 Views
Well, actually Etzel - 21/01/2010 04:54:17 PM 885 Views
Re: Well, actually RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 05:11:10 PM 894 Views
The wording is absolutely unambiguous, but I suppose one can argue everything. *NM* Etzel - 21/01/2010 05:24:03 PM 617 Views
Re: The wording is absolutely unambiguous, but I suppose one can argue everything. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 06:07:09 PM 1227 Views
I agree darius_sedai - 21/01/2010 06:23:34 PM 969 Views
Re: I agree Sidious - 21/01/2010 07:59:36 PM 971 Views
Re: I agree darius_sedai - 22/01/2010 07:23:37 AM 878 Views
Re: I agree Sidious - 22/01/2010 11:11:55 AM 1052 Views
LOL ... I love that you of all people are going to fall back on this argument! darius_sedai - 22/01/2010 07:41:00 PM 917 Views
Re: LOL ... I love that you of all people are going to fall back on this argument! Sidious - 22/01/2010 08:05:08 PM 1030 Views
and you have zero evidence that Lanfear is considerably stronger than the others darius_sedai - 22/01/2010 11:23:11 PM 796 Views
It's also a totally abstruse explanation, though, and therefore certainy wrong. *NM* Etzel - 22/01/2010 11:55:17 AM 770 Views
I think... Etzel - 21/01/2010 06:46:57 PM 917 Views
Re: I think... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 06:58:49 PM 813 Views
You are right... Etzel - 21/01/2010 07:12:47 PM 917 Views
Re: You are right... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 07:21:00 PM 1018 Views
Anyone who thinks she's hiding her strength is wrong Sidious - 21/01/2010 08:09:42 PM 1186 Views
Indeed, it's pretty idiotic. *NM* Etzel - 21/01/2010 08:19:53 PM 500 Views
Dude... fionwe1987 - 21/01/2010 08:51:08 PM 955 Views
Re: Dude... Sidious - 22/01/2010 11:14:08 AM 992 Views
Re: Dude... fionwe1987 - 22/01/2010 10:21:15 PM 1125 Views
Meh RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 11:19:16 PM 820 Views
Re: Meh Sidious - 22/01/2010 11:15:20 AM 960 Views
Re: Meh RugbyPlayingAshaman - 22/01/2010 03:09:10 PM 909 Views
Re: Meh Sidious - 22/01/2010 04:15:51 PM 927 Views
actually if one really wants to figure out what happened to Cyndane darius_sedai - 21/01/2010 07:00:33 PM 1105 Views
Dumb question, but do transmigrated souls need to re-reach their full potential? Gher - 21/01/2010 06:19:57 PM 959 Views
It seems like they start out as powerful as they were, but I don't think it's ever been stated *NM* darius_sedai - 21/01/2010 06:44:45 PM 588 Views
Agreed. *NM* Shishka - 21/01/2010 07:03:13 PM 512 Views
That's what I thought. *NM* Gher - 21/01/2010 10:05:38 PM 534 Views
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