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Re: Dude... Sidious Send a noteboard - 22/01/2010 11:14:08 AM

This much I can agree with, though your own dismissal of RJ's statements on OP strength makes me question what right you have to say this. But..


I don't dismiss RJ's quotes. I disagree with your interpretation of what a bell curve means.

This is pure nonsense. BS is in no way obligated to mention every player involved in that scene. He merely confirmed that Elza and SH were. He didn't say Moridin, but he at least is very obviously involved, if only behind the scenes.

The involvement of Graendal (unlike Cenn Buie's or the farmer in Salesin's) is indicated by other things, and in no way contradicted by Brandon's statements. Throwing a fit doesn't change that fact.


That is nonsense! Show me a single shred of evidence that supports Graendal's involvement in that scene, apart from your unwillingness to believe that Shadar Haran can do incredible things.
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My Lanfear/Cyndane theory has been disproven. Shishka - 20/01/2010 05:12:58 PM 3129 Views
It was discussed Etzel - 20/01/2010 05:27:43 PM 1462 Views
Re: It was discussed Shishka - 20/01/2010 07:09:01 PM 1281 Views
Maybe... Etzel - 20/01/2010 07:15:57 PM 1167 Views
Re: Maybe... Shishka - 20/01/2010 08:53:47 PM 1242 Views
Yeah, that would be a possibility! *NM* Etzel - 20/01/2010 09:01:26 PM 1161 Views
That doesn't really jive with Aran'gar though darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 09:03:35 PM 1156 Views
But... Etzel - 20/01/2010 09:11:47 PM 1135 Views
I think it's pretty obvious that pretty much any man is going to be darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 09:41:40 PM 1081 Views
The idea behind this theory is... Etzel - 21/01/2010 07:15:19 AM 1315 Views
Maybe there is a difference between male souls and female souls ... Shishka - 20/01/2010 09:35:57 PM 1233 Views
Plausible darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 09:45:21 PM 1290 Views
Actually, I didn't mean to imply that my idea of female strength is related to body size ... Shishka - 20/01/2010 10:10:48 PM 1120 Views
LOL ... I hear ya on that darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 10:17:02 PM 1228 Views
I'm so pleased this theory is false! darius_sedai - 12/12/2010 05:00:06 PM 1058 Views
people didn't like it when I proposed it kcf - 20/01/2010 05:31:18 PM 1504 Views
Thanks. Shishka - 20/01/2010 08:36:58 PM 1292 Views
I don't like the idea that she was healed by a woman Skeeve the Great - 20/01/2010 05:48:19 PM 1234 Views
I agree, and it seems unlikely that a new "better" method darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 06:07:04 PM 1168 Views
It's NOT due to Stilling or Healing and it's NOT due to Cyndane's weaker body... Shannow - 20/01/2010 06:46:08 PM 1294 Views
I think Moiraine's gaining strength seems a little too LotR. darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 06:55:34 PM 1231 Views
I think Moraine gaining strength is VERY LotR. That's why I think RJ went with it... *NM* Shannow - 20/01/2010 06:57:39 PM 687 Views
yet he moved away from LotR very early in the series *NM* darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 06:59:05 PM 650 Views
I also like that theory Sidious - 20/01/2010 07:14:20 PM 1198 Views
I think BS's error regarding Cyndane's strength can also be explained by this theory... Shannow - 20/01/2010 07:17:59 PM 1202 Views
Yes perhaps Sidious - 20/01/2010 07:25:06 PM 1218 Views
Cadsuane is considerably stronger than Moiraine darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 07:31:42 PM 1214 Views
Nope... Shannow - 20/01/2010 07:38:55 PM 1202 Views
I disagree as usual darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 07:45:29 PM 1118 Views
We don't know the magnitude of what Aes Sedai consider a significant strength difference... Shannow - 20/01/2010 07:54:38 PM 1204 Views
You are comparing Male and female strength here darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 08:18:45 PM 1246 Views
Why do you misquote Moiraine? Shannow - 20/01/2010 08:39:55 PM 1194 Views
Agreeing to disagree here ... we interpret the evidence differently and it's futile to argue. darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 08:41:08 PM 1387 Views
Cadsuane isn't too strong Sidious - 21/01/2010 04:19:41 AM 1185 Views
Actually... fionwe1987 - 21/01/2010 05:57:43 AM 1181 Views
Re: Actually... Sidious - 21/01/2010 12:31:53 PM 1201 Views
Sorry, that was the Glossary... fionwe1987 - 21/01/2010 08:07:56 PM 1062 Views
Sidious - 22/01/2010 11:05:23 AM 1261 Views
So Glossary or character? fionwe1987 - 22/01/2010 10:22:15 PM 952 Views
Re: Actually... The_Archer - 12/12/2010 04:42:22 PM 1208 Views
Re: I think BS's error regarding Cyndane's strength can also be explained by this theory... Shishka - 20/01/2010 07:43:28 PM 1205 Views
Agree with both your comments... Shannow - 20/01/2010 07:46:07 PM 1208 Views
Re: Agree with both your comments... Shishka - 20/01/2010 08:24:16 PM 1245 Views
Hmm ... I think maybe BS DID know about Cyndane being stronger than Graendal ... Shishka - 20/01/2010 09:20:31 PM 1205 Views
But seriously... Etzel - 21/01/2010 12:14:16 PM 1107 Views
Re: But seriously... Sidious - 21/01/2010 12:34:18 PM 1289 Views
I don't think it has to be so unique... Etzel - 21/01/2010 01:13:00 PM 1249 Views
Re: I don't think it has to be so unique... Sidious - 21/01/2010 04:49:42 PM 1258 Views
Also would explain the question of why Moiraine left the angreal on the wagon instead of using it... Shannow - 21/01/2010 02:30:46 PM 1419 Views
I think it makes more sense... Etzel - 21/01/2010 02:34:30 PM 1190 Views
Lanfear would have been toast if Moiraine had the angreal, plus foreknowledge of the confrontation.. Shannow - 21/01/2010 02:38:57 PM 1198 Views
In her letter to Thom Etzel - 21/01/2010 02:55:32 PM 1208 Views
One other tiny thing Sareitha Sedai - 21/01/2010 03:18:03 PM 1132 Views
Yes, and that is often overlooked Sidious - 21/01/2010 04:48:08 PM 1114 Views
That's my interpretation, also ... Shishka - 21/01/2010 04:00:35 PM 1096 Views
Nods in agreement darius_sedai - 21/01/2010 06:24:59 PM 1237 Views
I think the "bubble of hope" was simply ... Shishka - 21/01/2010 07:08:44 PM 1027 Views
Agreed *NM* darius_sedai - 21/01/2010 11:38:43 PM 660 Views
No, I don't think so Sidious - 21/01/2010 04:43:53 PM 1277 Views
I always figured Lanfear bargained away some power to escape the Finns beetnemesis - 20/01/2010 07:37:31 PM 1221 Views
But... Etzel - 20/01/2010 07:50:14 PM 1201 Views
Re: My Lanfear/Cyndane theory has been disproven. callandor1000 - 20/01/2010 07:51:38 PM 1474 Views
That idea has also been disproven ... Shishka - 20/01/2010 08:19:22 PM 1334 Views
Agreed... Etzel - 20/01/2010 08:36:47 PM 1073 Views
Yeah ... Shishka - 20/01/2010 08:43:24 PM 1204 Views
The closest I ever saw was the "Lightfriend/Purple Ajah" theory darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 08:46:20 PM 1435 Views
Yeah, the Verin revelation was cool... Etzel - 20/01/2010 08:48:53 PM 1176 Views
Re: That idea has also been disproven ... callandor1000 - 21/01/2010 05:12:45 PM 1155 Views
I think it may be more simple than it seems. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 04:15:05 PM 1250 Views
Doesn't fit with BS's words Etzel - 21/01/2010 04:27:43 PM 1097 Views
Also ... Shishka - 21/01/2010 04:32:58 PM 1059 Views
I don't think BS words or Cyndane's comments really prove anything. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 04:42:59 PM 1208 Views
BS says that Cyndane is truly weaker. So, this theory is out. *NM* Etzel - 21/01/2010 04:46:48 PM 706 Views
Re: BS says that Cyndane is truly weaker. So, this theory is out. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 04:49:09 PM 1159 Views
Well, actually Etzel - 21/01/2010 04:54:17 PM 1086 Views
Re: Well, actually RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 05:11:10 PM 1133 Views
The wording is absolutely unambiguous, but I suppose one can argue everything. *NM* Etzel - 21/01/2010 05:24:03 PM 751 Views
Re: The wording is absolutely unambiguous, but I suppose one can argue everything. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 06:07:09 PM 1449 Views
I agree darius_sedai - 21/01/2010 06:23:34 PM 1194 Views
Re: I agree Sidious - 21/01/2010 07:59:36 PM 1188 Views
Re: I agree darius_sedai - 22/01/2010 07:23:37 AM 1111 Views
Re: I agree Sidious - 22/01/2010 11:11:55 AM 1289 Views
LOL ... I love that you of all people are going to fall back on this argument! darius_sedai - 22/01/2010 07:41:00 PM 1147 Views
Re: LOL ... I love that you of all people are going to fall back on this argument! Sidious - 22/01/2010 08:05:08 PM 1268 Views
and you have zero evidence that Lanfear is considerably stronger than the others darius_sedai - 22/01/2010 11:23:11 PM 1007 Views
It's also a totally abstruse explanation, though, and therefore certainy wrong. *NM* Etzel - 22/01/2010 11:55:17 AM 1003 Views
I think... Etzel - 21/01/2010 06:46:57 PM 1121 Views
Re: I think... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 06:58:49 PM 1031 Views
You are right... Etzel - 21/01/2010 07:12:47 PM 1159 Views
Re: You are right... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 07:21:00 PM 1239 Views
Anyone who thinks she's hiding her strength is wrong Sidious - 21/01/2010 08:09:42 PM 1408 Views
Indeed, it's pretty idiotic. *NM* Etzel - 21/01/2010 08:19:53 PM 614 Views
Dude... fionwe1987 - 21/01/2010 08:51:08 PM 1166 Views
Re: Dude... Sidious - 22/01/2010 11:14:08 AM 1208 Views
Re: Dude... fionwe1987 - 22/01/2010 10:21:15 PM 1390 Views
Meh RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 11:19:16 PM 1037 Views
Re: Meh Sidious - 22/01/2010 11:15:20 AM 1198 Views
Re: Meh RugbyPlayingAshaman - 22/01/2010 03:09:10 PM 1120 Views
Re: Meh Sidious - 22/01/2010 04:15:51 PM 1174 Views
actually if one really wants to figure out what happened to Cyndane darius_sedai - 21/01/2010 07:00:33 PM 1329 Views
Dumb question, but do transmigrated souls need to re-reach their full potential? Gher - 21/01/2010 06:19:57 PM 1188 Views
It seems like they start out as powerful as they were, but I don't think it's ever been stated *NM* darius_sedai - 21/01/2010 06:44:45 PM 719 Views
Agreed. *NM* Shishka - 21/01/2010 07:03:13 PM 631 Views
That's what I thought. *NM* Gher - 21/01/2010 10:05:38 PM 629 Views
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