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Yeah..... Jeordam Send a noteboard - 02/02/2010 06:46:50 PM
Remember Egwene? She was held prisoner in the Stone, entered T'A'R, accomplished a Shield on a Black Sister and returned to her body only to find that the physical door was still locked. Moghedien could have done the same.

Especially since the most important information is already revealed to her: Nynaeve had forced Moghedien to enter T'A'R to go to Caemlyn to fight Rahvin, thus Moghedien could have been busy in T'A'R while sleeping, trying to find a way out of her predicament.


But Asmodean wasn't killed in the Dream World. He was killed in the real one. I know that the adam doesn't limit one from entering the real world, but ultimately what does it matter. You cannot effect the real world from the dream world. If it was at all possible, Moghedian would have known about it and done it to get herself out. Instead, she took her punishment and ultimately dealt with the consequences.

Also remember that Nynaeve didn't force Moghedien into the Dreamworld....she caught her there. It wasn't until Moghedian was looking for a way to win her freedom with info that Nynaeve even knew that Rand was battling Rhavin. It was then just blind luck/ tavaren that the end of the battle happened to go down in the Dreamworld & not the real one. Otherwise, Nynaeve linked to Moghedian would have been completely useless.

~Jeordam
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So your name is Graendal.... Jeordam - 01/02/2010 09:18:00 PM 1881 Views
one of the reasons I'm at a loss with her death ... along with the lead-up being clumsy *NM* darius_sedai - 01/02/2010 09:36:29 PM 803 Views
She very well... Jeordam - 01/02/2010 11:13:50 PM 1175 Views
Exactly how I feel ... to the letter! *NM* darius_sedai - 01/02/2010 11:17:57 PM 655 Views
Re: She very well... jiggy - 02/02/2010 08:42:17 AM 1218 Views
Ha! "Graendal actually kills Asmodean". A very bold claim. *NM* Etzel - 02/02/2010 10:51:40 AM 699 Views
Bold like saying that water is wet.... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 05:46:54 PM 798 Views
I am now split with a 80% belief it's Graendal and 20% that it's Moghedien *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 06:11:47 PM 475 Views
Moghedien.... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 06:15:41 PM 929 Views
The a'dam doesn't limit your ability to enter T'A'R RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 06:36:26 PM 922 Views
Yeah..... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 06:46:50 PM 1071 Views
Re: Yeah..... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 07:42:59 PM 839 Views
This brings up a very intersting question... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 09:30:49 PM 1096 Views
Re: This brings up a very intersting question... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 09:57:24 PM 818 Views
Moghedien? Really? fionwe1987 - 02/02/2010 07:56:33 PM 936 Views
when was Semirhage in an a'dam? *NM* darius_sedai - 02/02/2010 08:48:27 PM 492 Views
Re: Moghedien? Really? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 09:03:54 PM 897 Views
Egwene was faintly forkrooted, not heavily. Fanatic-Templar - 02/02/2010 10:24:55 PM 846 Views
It was heavy enough to nullify her ability almost completely by TGS RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 10:38:04 PM 814 Views
That's still extremely faint. Fanatic-Templar - 02/02/2010 11:07:10 PM 840 Views
Re: That's still extremely faint. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/02/2010 03:34:06 PM 872 Views
Re: Moghedien? Really? fionwe1987 - 03/02/2010 01:02:13 AM 845 Views
Re: Moghedien? Really? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/02/2010 03:31:21 PM 1045 Views
The chance that Moggy killed Asmo is actually 0 % Etzel - 02/02/2010 09:32:03 PM 936 Views
*nods* Jeordam - 02/02/2010 09:36:04 PM 758 Views
Well, I completely disagree, but that's another discussion. *NM* Etzel - 02/02/2010 07:07:05 PM 445 Views
Yes, I agree. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 03:26:13 PM 625 Views
As bad as Sammael's death. *NM* Kieran - 03/02/2010 02:00:02 AM 487 Views
The lead up was clumsy because her death scene was rather forced. Libby - 09/02/2010 11:11:21 PM 1001 Views
Yes, pretty much. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 01/02/2010 11:21:31 PM 921 Views
Couple of flaws in that reasoning Lord Haart - 02/02/2010 07:56:35 AM 1211 Views
Graendal already has a massive inverted ward around the palace. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 03:23:44 PM 973 Views
Come on now.... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 04:58:34 PM 1096 Views
IMO Sareitha Sedai - 02/02/2010 05:58:10 PM 904 Views
This could go either way.... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 06:14:21 PM 1043 Views
RE: Strength and Compulsion RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 06:31:13 PM 1043 Views
I never figured that Verin was weak....or even middling. Jeordam - 02/02/2010 06:57:11 PM 919 Views
Re: I never figured that Verin was weak....or even middling. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 07:51:15 PM 944 Views
Verin was using her angreal when she compelled. *NM* fionwe1987 - 02/02/2010 08:00:50 PM 510 Views
Danke for clarification. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 08:15:39 PM 774 Views
The thing is... Etzel - 02/02/2010 09:39:18 AM 915 Views
Its still a game... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 05:09:42 PM 955 Views
I could buy... Etzel - 02/02/2010 07:16:43 PM 876 Views
Please, Artsapat - 02/02/2010 10:42:00 AM 897 Views
*ha* Jeordam - 02/02/2010 05:10:41 PM 872 Views
My name is Graendal? My parents will be so confused. TaskmasterJack - 02/02/2010 02:19:26 PM 861 Views
So what would you say... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 05:12:09 PM 852 Views
Wow. Sareitha Sedai - 02/02/2010 06:00:11 PM 908 Views
Never underestimate.... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 06:08:42 PM 813 Views
"Oh, no... Rand is totally going to balefire me!" *NM* TaskmasterJack - 03/02/2010 08:50:26 PM 453 Views
A conclusion with an explanation built around it. Fanatic-Templar - 02/02/2010 10:22:29 PM 949 Views
Hah! RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 10:38:38 PM 785 Views
I miss Diomedes . *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 02/02/2010 11:07:45 PM 435 Views
So...like the theory of Macro Evolution? People seem to believe that..... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 11:22:41 PM 975 Views
... Fanatic-Templar - 03/02/2010 01:23:06 AM 868 Views
Ok...I'm just saying... Jeordam - 03/02/2010 04:00:46 PM 1012 Views
I don't mean to make any generalisations about you, and I'm sorry if that's what I sounded like. Fanatic-Templar - 04/02/2010 12:24:34 AM 848 Views
That's ridiculous rAndy aL - 02/02/2010 11:39:41 PM 888 Views
Hold on now.... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 11:51:32 PM 1043 Views
Re: Hold on now.... Lord Haart - 03/02/2010 02:52:07 AM 867 Views
Re: Hold on now.... darius_sedai - 03/02/2010 08:59:44 PM 913 Views
Re: Hold on now.... Lord Haart - 04/02/2010 04:44:31 AM 833 Views
Your theory breaks down because of something Brandon said. Logain - 03/02/2010 03:49:58 AM 802 Views
Kind of Lord Haart - 03/02/2010 04:10:04 AM 933 Views
I disagree. Gher - 03/02/2010 05:31:39 AM 766 Views
But how many previously unseen weaves have had such huge implications? Lord Haart - 03/02/2010 01:29:15 PM 1052 Views
Two things come to mind... Jeordam - 03/02/2010 03:50:38 PM 964 Views
I don't really think this is relevant Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 05:03:51 PM 883 Views
There's a difference.... Jeordam - 03/02/2010 06:01:30 PM 937 Views
I know there is. You're the one who brought up the weaves being picked apart Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 06:37:40 PM 906 Views
*grins* Jeordam - 03/02/2010 06:42:54 PM 935 Views
But again... Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 06:59:18 PM 850 Views
sure we do darius_sedai - 03/02/2010 07:03:40 PM 797 Views
Each of them was at the very least confused/disoriented afterwards. Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 07:14:24 PM 791 Views
But here's the thing... Jeordam - 03/02/2010 07:36:42 PM 900 Views
I think we disagree with what "subtle" means here. Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 07:46:20 PM 792 Views
Kerb was more subtle than most, but we've seen subtler. Gher - 04/02/2010 05:16:33 PM 1034 Views
Re: Each of them was at the very least confused/disoriented afterwards. darius_sedai - 03/02/2010 07:37:58 PM 794 Views
... Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 07:42:07 PM 844 Views
Re: ... darius_sedai - 03/02/2010 07:59:26 PM 833 Views
But Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 08:04:27 PM 948 Views
I think it would be obvious if Ituralde was acting different darius_sedai - 03/02/2010 08:18:50 PM 1091 Views
Hrm Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 08:36:12 PM 1014 Views
It happens in WH when they go to tell her that Moridin is N'B darius_sedai - 03/02/2010 08:43:11 PM 876 Views
Thanks *NM* Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 08:47:29 PM 468 Views
Now try and not lynch me... Jeordam - 03/02/2010 04:08:11 PM 887 Views
But that's not how it happened BlackAdder - 03/02/2010 08:18:59 PM 861 Views
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