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I don't mean to make any generalisations about you, and I'm sorry if that's what I sounded like. Fanatic-Templar Send a noteboard - 04/02/2010 12:24:34 AM
that its a possibility, and certainly what I would do if I was Graendal. I've said it time and time again, I think that she's dead.

Just don't confuse this to mean unfounded assertions have similar credibility to coherent conclusions.


I don't know if you know me that well or not. But that's hardly my style. I'm often one of the fewest who holds to the edict that the simple explanation is the most likely correct one. So many in wot hunt zebras when they see hoof prints, but completely overlook the horse standing right there. That's not me.

In my years at wotmania, I wrote several theories which ended up correct....and none of them were proven wrong. We're talking real theories...not MB postings on fantastical ideas. My claim to fame is my theory on the Taint on Saidin, and how Rand could get rid of it. I had that figured out a good 3 books before RJ wrote it. I know the difference in credibility.


I was only talking about this post. You basically simply wrote a post conjuring up a hypothetical scenario, then said 'prove me wrong'. I would rather you have conjured that scenario and said 'this is what happened because of this, this, and this.' That is what I meant by unfounded assertions, and that's what it was.

Incidentally, I wouldn't consider Graendal a main character.

She's been in active play since, what, book 4? We've had chapters from her point of view. She's been one of the main-Shadow characters for a long time....

I'd consider her a main character. *shrug*

~Jeordam


I mostly remember her as being a secondary character in Sammael's plotline... I kept expecting her to come to the fron in this book, but she really didn't.
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So your name is Graendal.... Jeordam - 01/02/2010 09:18:00 PM 1625 Views
one of the reasons I'm at a loss with her death ... along with the lead-up being clumsy *NM* darius_sedai - 01/02/2010 09:36:29 PM 681 Views
She very well... Jeordam - 01/02/2010 11:13:50 PM 872 Views
Exactly how I feel ... to the letter! *NM* darius_sedai - 01/02/2010 11:17:57 PM 539 Views
Re: She very well... jiggy - 02/02/2010 08:42:17 AM 826 Views
Ha! "Graendal actually kills Asmodean". A very bold claim. *NM* Etzel - 02/02/2010 10:51:40 AM 581 Views
Bold like saying that water is wet.... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 05:46:54 PM 539 Views
I am now split with a 80% belief it's Graendal and 20% that it's Moghedien *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 06:11:47 PM 365 Views
Moghedien.... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 06:15:41 PM 631 Views
The a'dam doesn't limit your ability to enter T'A'R RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 06:36:26 PM 589 Views
Yeah..... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 06:46:50 PM 793 Views
Re: Yeah..... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 07:42:59 PM 585 Views
This brings up a very intersting question... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 09:30:49 PM 796 Views
Re: This brings up a very intersting question... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 09:57:24 PM 598 Views
Moghedien? Really? fionwe1987 - 02/02/2010 07:56:33 PM 669 Views
when was Semirhage in an a'dam? *NM* darius_sedai - 02/02/2010 08:48:27 PM 364 Views
Re: Moghedien? Really? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 09:03:54 PM 548 Views
Egwene was faintly forkrooted, not heavily. Fanatic-Templar - 02/02/2010 10:24:55 PM 596 Views
It was heavy enough to nullify her ability almost completely by TGS RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 10:38:04 PM 505 Views
That's still extremely faint. Fanatic-Templar - 02/02/2010 11:07:10 PM 576 Views
Re: That's still extremely faint. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/02/2010 03:34:06 PM 622 Views
Re: Moghedien? Really? fionwe1987 - 03/02/2010 01:02:13 AM 531 Views
Re: Moghedien? Really? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/02/2010 03:31:21 PM 751 Views
The chance that Moggy killed Asmo is actually 0 % Etzel - 02/02/2010 09:32:03 PM 652 Views
*nods* Jeordam - 02/02/2010 09:36:04 PM 495 Views
Well, I completely disagree, but that's another discussion. *NM* Etzel - 02/02/2010 07:07:05 PM 347 Views
Yes, I agree. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 03:26:13 PM 479 Views
As bad as Sammael's death. *NM* Kieran - 03/02/2010 02:00:02 AM 345 Views
The lead up was clumsy because her death scene was rather forced. Libby - 09/02/2010 11:11:21 PM 737 Views
Yes, pretty much. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 01/02/2010 11:21:31 PM 627 Views
Couple of flaws in that reasoning Lord Haart - 02/02/2010 07:56:35 AM 925 Views
Graendal already has a massive inverted ward around the palace. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 03:23:44 PM 697 Views
Come on now.... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 04:58:34 PM 839 Views
IMO Sareitha Sedai - 02/02/2010 05:58:10 PM 643 Views
This could go either way.... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 06:14:21 PM 788 Views
RE: Strength and Compulsion RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 06:31:13 PM 790 Views
I never figured that Verin was weak....or even middling. Jeordam - 02/02/2010 06:57:11 PM 680 Views
Re: I never figured that Verin was weak....or even middling. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 07:51:15 PM 661 Views
Verin was using her angreal when she compelled. *NM* fionwe1987 - 02/02/2010 08:00:50 PM 392 Views
Danke for clarification. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 08:15:39 PM 523 Views
The thing is... Etzel - 02/02/2010 09:39:18 AM 647 Views
Its still a game... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 05:09:42 PM 687 Views
I could buy... Etzel - 02/02/2010 07:16:43 PM 637 Views
Please, Artsapat - 02/02/2010 10:42:00 AM 633 Views
*ha* Jeordam - 02/02/2010 05:10:41 PM 582 Views
My name is Graendal? My parents will be so confused. TaskmasterJack - 02/02/2010 02:19:26 PM 605 Views
So what would you say... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 05:12:09 PM 593 Views
Wow. Sareitha Sedai - 02/02/2010 06:00:11 PM 645 Views
Never underestimate.... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 06:08:42 PM 566 Views
"Oh, no... Rand is totally going to balefire me!" *NM* TaskmasterJack - 03/02/2010 08:50:26 PM 326 Views
A conclusion with an explanation built around it. Fanatic-Templar - 02/02/2010 10:22:29 PM 690 Views
Hah! RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 10:38:38 PM 518 Views
I miss Diomedes . *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 02/02/2010 11:07:45 PM 308 Views
So...like the theory of Macro Evolution? People seem to believe that..... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 11:22:41 PM 655 Views
... Fanatic-Templar - 03/02/2010 01:23:06 AM 585 Views
Ok...I'm just saying... Jeordam - 03/02/2010 04:00:46 PM 757 Views
I don't mean to make any generalisations about you, and I'm sorry if that's what I sounded like. Fanatic-Templar - 04/02/2010 12:24:34 AM 614 Views
That's ridiculous rAndy aL - 02/02/2010 11:39:41 PM 626 Views
Hold on now.... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 11:51:32 PM 765 Views
Re: Hold on now.... Lord Haart - 03/02/2010 02:52:07 AM 621 Views
Re: Hold on now.... darius_sedai - 03/02/2010 08:59:44 PM 639 Views
Re: Hold on now.... Lord Haart - 04/02/2010 04:44:31 AM 563 Views
Your theory breaks down because of something Brandon said. Logain - 03/02/2010 03:49:58 AM 567 Views
Kind of Lord Haart - 03/02/2010 04:10:04 AM 638 Views
I disagree. Gher - 03/02/2010 05:31:39 AM 514 Views
But how many previously unseen weaves have had such huge implications? Lord Haart - 03/02/2010 01:29:15 PM 793 Views
Two things come to mind... Jeordam - 03/02/2010 03:50:38 PM 717 Views
I don't really think this is relevant Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 05:03:51 PM 623 Views
There's a difference.... Jeordam - 03/02/2010 06:01:30 PM 664 Views
I know there is. You're the one who brought up the weaves being picked apart Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 06:37:40 PM 659 Views
*grins* Jeordam - 03/02/2010 06:42:54 PM 669 Views
But again... Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 06:59:18 PM 598 Views
sure we do darius_sedai - 03/02/2010 07:03:40 PM 537 Views
Each of them was at the very least confused/disoriented afterwards. Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 07:14:24 PM 519 Views
But here's the thing... Jeordam - 03/02/2010 07:36:42 PM 628 Views
I think we disagree with what "subtle" means here. Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 07:46:20 PM 559 Views
Kerb was more subtle than most, but we've seen subtler. Gher - 04/02/2010 05:16:33 PM 750 Views
Re: Each of them was at the very least confused/disoriented afterwards. darius_sedai - 03/02/2010 07:37:58 PM 516 Views
... Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 07:42:07 PM 597 Views
Re: ... darius_sedai - 03/02/2010 07:59:26 PM 550 Views
But Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 08:04:27 PM 655 Views
I think it would be obvious if Ituralde was acting different darius_sedai - 03/02/2010 08:18:50 PM 753 Views
Hrm Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 08:36:12 PM 737 Views
It happens in WH when they go to tell her that Moridin is N'B darius_sedai - 03/02/2010 08:43:11 PM 595 Views
Thanks *NM* Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 08:47:29 PM 335 Views
Now try and not lynch me... Jeordam - 03/02/2010 04:08:11 PM 630 Views
But that's not how it happened BlackAdder - 03/02/2010 08:18:59 PM 621 Views
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