I completely get the fact that people would expect a Compulsion weave to dissipate before being delved. I get the reason why, but can you imagine wanting it to show up just enough to be detected, but never confirmed.
Consider this....you are investigating a murder. You find a fingerprint which you know belongs to a certain person. The way that it is placed leaves no doubt that they are the killer (just flow with the analogy). However after you have examined it, the finger print gets destroyed and well is just unrecognizable. You didn't make a copy of it or anything like that. Now all you have is your word that you know who the suspect is. You have no proof of that.
It is the ultimate distraction. If you're believed, good on you. If not, then it sews much discord into the entire situation. Its a fantastic play if Graendal even had a bit of knowledge that Rand was on the hairy edge of psychotic paranoia.
Do I think that Graendal is dead? Yes....with the end of the series seriously close, I think that there just isn't enough time. If this had gone down in book 5...no way. I'd not count her out....but since we're almost done with the series, I think that she's toast. To qualify this, if she does show up in the next book, I won't be suprised.
Oh, and incidently, we have seen on screen two weaves both being unraveled/picked apart. They were both gateways originally. Aviendha picked apart her gateway from the Tarasin Palace to the countryside on the way to the Kin's Farm. She did this successfully with no repercussions. The other gateway was from the Kin's farm to an empty field in Andor near one of Elayne's estates. Elayne is the one who picked that weave apart. It did't work out, and she ended up with a nuke weave which destroyed both sides of the gateway for a goodly distance.
~Jeordam
Consider this....you are investigating a murder. You find a fingerprint which you know belongs to a certain person. The way that it is placed leaves no doubt that they are the killer (just flow with the analogy). However after you have examined it, the finger print gets destroyed and well is just unrecognizable. You didn't make a copy of it or anything like that. Now all you have is your word that you know who the suspect is. You have no proof of that.
It is the ultimate distraction. If you're believed, good on you. If not, then it sews much discord into the entire situation. Its a fantastic play if Graendal even had a bit of knowledge that Rand was on the hairy edge of psychotic paranoia.
Do I think that Graendal is dead? Yes....with the end of the series seriously close, I think that there just isn't enough time. If this had gone down in book 5...no way. I'd not count her out....but since we're almost done with the series, I think that she's toast. To qualify this, if she does show up in the next book, I won't be suprised.
Oh, and incidently, we have seen on screen two weaves both being unraveled/picked apart. They were both gateways originally. Aviendha picked apart her gateway from the Tarasin Palace to the countryside on the way to the Kin's Farm. She did this successfully with no repercussions. The other gateway was from the Kin's farm to an empty field in Andor near one of Elayne's estates. Elayne is the one who picked that weave apart. It did't work out, and she ended up with a nuke weave which destroyed both sides of the gateway for a goodly distance.
~Jeordam
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Saving the Princess, Humanity, or the World-Entire since 1985
Saving the Princess, Humanity, or the World-Entire since 1985
So your name is Graendal....
01/02/2010 09:18:00 PM
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one of the reasons I'm at a loss with her death ... along with the lead-up being clumsy *NM*
01/02/2010 09:36:29 PM
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She very well...
01/02/2010 11:13:50 PM
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Ha! "Graendal actually kills Asmodean". A very bold claim.
*NM*
02/02/2010 10:51:40 AM
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Bold like saying that water is wet....
02/02/2010 05:46:54 PM
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I am now split with a 80% belief it's Graendal and 20% that it's Moghedien *NM*
02/02/2010 06:11:47 PM
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Moghedien....
02/02/2010 06:15:41 PM
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The a'dam doesn't limit your ability to enter T'A'R
02/02/2010 06:36:26 PM
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Yeah.....
02/02/2010 06:46:50 PM
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Re: Yeah.....
02/02/2010 07:42:59 PM
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Moghedien? Really?
02/02/2010 07:56:33 PM
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Re: Moghedien? Really?
02/02/2010 09:03:54 PM
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Egwene was faintly forkrooted, not heavily.
02/02/2010 10:24:55 PM
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It was heavy enough to nullify her ability almost completely by TGS
02/02/2010 10:38:04 PM
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The lead up was clumsy because her death scene was rather forced.
09/02/2010 11:11:21 PM
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Couple of flaws in that reasoning
02/02/2010 07:56:35 AM
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Come on now....
02/02/2010 04:58:34 PM
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IMO
02/02/2010 05:58:10 PM
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This could go either way....
02/02/2010 06:14:21 PM
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RE: Strength and Compulsion
02/02/2010 06:31:13 PM
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I never figured that Verin was weak....or even middling.
02/02/2010 06:57:11 PM
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Re: I never figured that Verin was weak....or even middling.
02/02/2010 07:51:15 PM
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The thing is...
02/02/2010 09:39:18 AM
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My name is Graendal? My parents will be so confused.
02/02/2010 02:19:26 PM
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A conclusion with an explanation built around it.
02/02/2010 10:22:29 PM
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So...like the theory of Macro Evolution? People seem to believe that.....
02/02/2010 11:22:41 PM
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...
03/02/2010 01:23:06 AM
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Ok...I'm just saying...
03/02/2010 04:00:46 PM
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I don't mean to make any generalisations about you, and I'm sorry if that's what I sounded like.
04/02/2010 12:24:34 AM
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That's ridiculous
02/02/2010 11:39:41 PM
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Hold on now....
02/02/2010 11:51:32 PM
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Re: Hold on now....
03/02/2010 02:52:07 AM
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Your theory breaks down because of something Brandon said.
03/02/2010 03:49:58 AM
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I disagree.
03/02/2010 05:31:39 AM
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But how many previously unseen weaves have had such huge implications?
03/02/2010 01:29:15 PM
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Two things come to mind...
03/02/2010 03:50:38 PM
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I don't really think this is relevant
03/02/2010 05:03:51 PM
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There's a difference....
03/02/2010 06:01:30 PM
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I know there is. You're the one who brought up the weaves being picked apart
03/02/2010 06:37:40 PM
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*grins*
03/02/2010 06:42:54 PM
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But again...
03/02/2010 06:59:18 PM
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sure we do
03/02/2010 07:03:40 PM
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Each of them was at the very least confused/disoriented afterwards.
03/02/2010 07:14:24 PM
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But here's the thing...
03/02/2010 07:36:42 PM
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Re: Each of them was at the very least confused/disoriented afterwards.
03/02/2010 07:37:58 PM
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...
03/02/2010 07:42:07 PM
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Re: ...
03/02/2010 07:59:26 PM
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But
03/02/2010 08:04:27 PM
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I think it would be obvious if Ituralde was acting different
03/02/2010 08:18:50 PM
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Hrm
03/02/2010 08:36:12 PM
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