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I don't think.... Jeordam Send a noteboard - 04/02/2010 06:11:03 PM
That Graendal might sneak away, if he simply attacks her palace. And therefore he came up with the brilliant Compulsion/balefire idea to verify it. It makes no sense to let Rand think this all through in an intense scene, but later reveal that Rand couldn't do anything to kill Graendal, because she would anticipate every move. RJ would never let Rand look like an idiot and Graendal brilliant in such a way, just for a ridiculous twist.


I don't think that it makes Rand look like an idiot. So Rand came up with this Compulsion/Balefire verification idea. It was a good one. But we're also talking about him trying to kill one of the most brilliant minds of her time (The Age of Legends)...on her home turf. He's trying to outsmart someone who has a lifetime of experience in outsmarting someone else.

There is no shame in loosing to that.

As I've said time and time again, Graendal didn't have to anticipate her palace getting nuked in order to not get killed. All she had to do is realize that she has been located (which she knows by the fact that the guy showed up out of the blue on his own...no guards...no horse) and get out of dodge.

Think how awesome it would be to have a Rand who was so sure that he had her pegged, but was wrong. That he had this one thing under control...only to find out that he had been out-manuvered yet again. Talk about him quickly approaching the edge of panic. That no matter what his own plans and actions are...that the Shadow is one step ahead of him. That they very well may get the last laugh (as they did last time).

His will make his despirate charge up Hamburger Hill (Shaol Ghul) all the more despirate.

~Jeordam
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Saving the Princess, Humanity, or the World-Entire since 1985
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So your name is Graendal... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/02/2010 04:38:42 PM 1576 Views
First off.... Jeordam - 03/02/2010 04:51:46 PM 840 Views
Re: First off.... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/02/2010 05:09:06 PM 626 Views
Nice Sidious - 03/02/2010 05:46:45 PM 725 Views
Well we know she has a weather/temperature warding screen around her palace RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/02/2010 05:58:27 PM 638 Views
Not really Sidious - 03/02/2010 06:02:27 PM 621 Views
Re: Not really RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/02/2010 06:12:05 PM 754 Views
There's one other possibility... fionwe1987 - 03/02/2010 11:42:25 PM 718 Views
But... Fanatic-Templar - 04/02/2010 01:03:05 AM 593 Views
Nope... fionwe1987 - 04/02/2010 06:19:56 AM 773 Views
Point granted. Fanatic-Templar - 04/02/2010 06:56:19 AM 789 Views
Read the books Sidious - 04/02/2010 03:47:23 PM 763 Views
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Yeah, that's why I figured I'd post my Sidious wish-fulfillment theory below . Fanatic-Templar - 04/02/2010 07:44:22 PM 742 Views
Thanks! And I just copy pasted... fionwe1987 - 04/02/2010 09:03:21 PM 576 Views
Is it really that plausible? Sidious - 04/02/2010 04:18:25 AM 623 Views
Ahhh, but... fionwe1987 - 04/02/2010 06:22:46 AM 685 Views
Re: Ahhh, but... Sidious - 04/02/2010 06:40:40 PM 620 Views
So your name is Robert Jordan Etzel - 03/02/2010 05:53:43 PM 922 Views
But unfortunately and tragically... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/02/2010 06:01:15 PM 711 Views
This thought is so grotesque... Etzel - 03/02/2010 07:20:20 PM 662 Views
Re: This thought is so grotesque... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/02/2010 07:40:01 PM 664 Views
Actually no Forsaken has ever beaten or outsmarted Rand in a confrontation before. Etzel - 03/02/2010 08:50:41 PM 662 Views
Uhhh... Jeordam - 03/02/2010 09:01:57 PM 775 Views
Yeah, but... Etzel - 03/02/2010 09:21:51 PM 621 Views
But I think you're misreading the rules of the game. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/02/2010 09:31:40 PM 586 Views
Rand considers... Etzel - 04/02/2010 10:10:59 AM 580 Views
I don't think.... Jeordam - 04/02/2010 06:11:03 PM 779 Views
O_O RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/02/2010 09:25:17 PM 612 Views
Yeah, and this is exactly what we see when Rand kills Graendal with a force of light. *NM* Etzel - 03/02/2010 09:29:08 PM 248 Views
When Rand thinks that he kills.... Jeordam - 03/02/2010 09:34:41 PM 625 Views
Well, then we agree, I also think Graendal is definitely dead! *NM* Etzel - 04/02/2010 10:06:31 AM 267 Views
He defeats every Forsaken because he doesn't play their game Sidious - 04/02/2010 04:23:23 AM 714 Views
I agree. *NM* Etzel - 04/02/2010 10:11:51 AM 676 Views
I think there is a sexual dynamic here RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/02/2010 04:45:49 PM 596 Views
Bingo Sidious - 03/02/2010 06:03:19 PM 688 Views
That is not true.. fionwe1987 - 03/02/2010 11:50:18 PM 756 Views
This was a typical... Etzel - 04/02/2010 10:17:56 AM 566 Views
There was nothing typical about it! fionwe1987 - 04/02/2010 08:48:16 PM 705 Views
Rand wasn't at all afraid of Graendal Etzel - 04/02/2010 09:22:53 PM 668 Views
Of course he was! Even Nynaeve and Min noticed! fionwe1987 - 04/02/2010 09:32:52 PM 732 Views
Re: That is not true.. Sidious - 04/02/2010 03:57:56 PM 842 Views
There's a difference between Semirhage's death & Graendal's (possible) death Jeordam - 04/02/2010 06:48:11 PM 854 Views
But RJ/BS brike convention in this book... fionwe1987 - 04/02/2010 08:52:44 PM 770 Views
So your name is Basel Gill. Fanatic-Templar - 04/02/2010 12:53:13 AM 635 Views
So your name is Sidious Fanatic-Templar - 04/02/2010 12:57:46 AM 742 Views
Just use the TARDIS. *NM* Great Lord of Chaos - 04/02/2010 05:04:52 AM 387 Views
Re: So your name is Sidious Sidious - 04/02/2010 03:48:52 PM 597 Views
You're offering me a throne? Thanks Siddy, you're my favourite archnemesis! Fanatic-Templar - 04/02/2010 06:16:54 PM 712 Views
A throne of beetles Sidious - 04/02/2010 06:35:58 PM 640 Views
How exactly do you fashion a throne out of live beetles? Fanatic-Templar - 04/02/2010 07:46:42 PM 635 Views
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