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This thought is so grotesque... Etzel Send a noteboard - 03/02/2010 07:20:20 PM
You die before you can write the scene but you are quite explicit in your notes and outline that Rand thinks he kills a Forsaken earlier, but this Forsaken appears again in the second act to taunt him, just as Ishamael did, but more effectively since it is closer to Tarmon Gaidon.


That we might really find out in ToM or AMoL that Graendal sneaked away before Rand balefired the palace. On a re-read of this scene TGS we would then laugh about Rand's pretentious & ridiculous explanation how to outsmart someone like Graendal, because - as we know now - it isn't possible at all and Rand is just an idiot to try it.
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So your name is Graendal... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/02/2010 04:38:42 PM 1507 Views
First off.... Jeordam - 03/02/2010 04:51:46 PM 788 Views
Re: First off.... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/02/2010 05:09:06 PM 569 Views
Nice Sidious - 03/02/2010 05:46:45 PM 674 Views
Well we know she has a weather/temperature warding screen around her palace RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/02/2010 05:58:27 PM 580 Views
Not really Sidious - 03/02/2010 06:02:27 PM 563 Views
Re: Not really RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/02/2010 06:12:05 PM 698 Views
There's one other possibility... fionwe1987 - 03/02/2010 11:42:25 PM 662 Views
But... Fanatic-Templar - 04/02/2010 01:03:05 AM 548 Views
Nope... fionwe1987 - 04/02/2010 06:19:56 AM 725 Views
Point granted. Fanatic-Templar - 04/02/2010 06:56:19 AM 727 Views
Read the books Sidious - 04/02/2010 03:47:23 PM 697 Views
Fanatic-Templar - 04/02/2010 06:13:00 PM 720 Views
Sidious - 04/02/2010 06:35:27 PM 639 Views
Yeah, that's why I figured I'd post my Sidious wish-fulfillment theory below . Fanatic-Templar - 04/02/2010 07:44:22 PM 689 Views
Thanks! And I just copy pasted... fionwe1987 - 04/02/2010 09:03:21 PM 542 Views
Is it really that plausible? Sidious - 04/02/2010 04:18:25 AM 562 Views
Ahhh, but... fionwe1987 - 04/02/2010 06:22:46 AM 639 Views
Re: Ahhh, but... Sidious - 04/02/2010 06:40:40 PM 561 Views
So your name is Robert Jordan Etzel - 03/02/2010 05:53:43 PM 874 Views
But unfortunately and tragically... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/02/2010 06:01:15 PM 644 Views
This thought is so grotesque... Etzel - 03/02/2010 07:20:20 PM 608 Views
Re: This thought is so grotesque... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/02/2010 07:40:01 PM 606 Views
Actually no Forsaken has ever beaten or outsmarted Rand in a confrontation before. Etzel - 03/02/2010 08:50:41 PM 617 Views
Uhhh... Jeordam - 03/02/2010 09:01:57 PM 724 Views
Yeah, but... Etzel - 03/02/2010 09:21:51 PM 579 Views
But I think you're misreading the rules of the game. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/02/2010 09:31:40 PM 538 Views
Rand considers... Etzel - 04/02/2010 10:10:59 AM 522 Views
I don't think.... Jeordam - 04/02/2010 06:11:03 PM 702 Views
O_O RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/02/2010 09:25:17 PM 564 Views
Yeah, and this is exactly what we see when Rand kills Graendal with a force of light. *NM* Etzel - 03/02/2010 09:29:08 PM 222 Views
When Rand thinks that he kills.... Jeordam - 03/02/2010 09:34:41 PM 570 Views
Well, then we agree, I also think Graendal is definitely dead! *NM* Etzel - 04/02/2010 10:06:31 AM 240 Views
He defeats every Forsaken because he doesn't play their game Sidious - 04/02/2010 04:23:23 AM 670 Views
I agree. *NM* Etzel - 04/02/2010 10:11:51 AM 637 Views
I think there is a sexual dynamic here RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/02/2010 04:45:49 PM 550 Views
Bingo Sidious - 03/02/2010 06:03:19 PM 639 Views
That is not true.. fionwe1987 - 03/02/2010 11:50:18 PM 698 Views
This was a typical... Etzel - 04/02/2010 10:17:56 AM 521 Views
There was nothing typical about it! fionwe1987 - 04/02/2010 08:48:16 PM 661 Views
Rand wasn't at all afraid of Graendal Etzel - 04/02/2010 09:22:53 PM 622 Views
Of course he was! Even Nynaeve and Min noticed! fionwe1987 - 04/02/2010 09:32:52 PM 684 Views
Re: That is not true.. Sidious - 04/02/2010 03:57:56 PM 781 Views
There's a difference between Semirhage's death & Graendal's (possible) death Jeordam - 04/02/2010 06:48:11 PM 785 Views
But RJ/BS brike convention in this book... fionwe1987 - 04/02/2010 08:52:44 PM 704 Views
So your name is Basel Gill. Fanatic-Templar - 04/02/2010 12:53:13 AM 586 Views
So your name is Sidious Fanatic-Templar - 04/02/2010 12:57:46 AM 680 Views
Just use the TARDIS. *NM* Great Lord of Chaos - 04/02/2010 05:04:52 AM 346 Views
Re: So your name is Sidious Sidious - 04/02/2010 03:48:52 PM 542 Views
You're offering me a throne? Thanks Siddy, you're my favourite archnemesis! Fanatic-Templar - 04/02/2010 06:16:54 PM 643 Views
A throne of beetles Sidious - 04/02/2010 06:35:58 PM 579 Views
How exactly do you fashion a throne out of live beetles? Fanatic-Templar - 04/02/2010 07:46:42 PM 584 Views
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