He defeats every Forsaken because he doesn't play their game
Sidious Send a noteboard - 04/02/2010 04:23:23 AM
He's *never* beaten a Forsaken at their own game - his M.O. is pretty consistent; he shows up, mostly as a shock assault, a reaction to their own offensive or in a surprise attack, and proceeds to chase the Forsaken once he figures out where they are.
Well exactly. He refused to walk through all Rahvin's intricate little traps, and went to the heart to have a one on one with him. This caught Rahvin by surprise and it destroyed him. He did the same with Sammael, who thought Rand would never dare just pop up in his city. Maybe you can't torture Semirhage but if you spank her, she'll break easily.
This is Rand's whole point with Graendal... to NOT play her game, which becomes a whole complex little subplot filled with proxies, wit and intelligence. He rather just punched her in the face and balefired the whole palace. That is NOT the way Graendal does things, which is why she's dead.
Not only that, but you yourself say that Rand uses brute force to defeat them. I would say that Graendal is the same. He admits he can't defeat her so he uses a massive amount of saidin to end the debate.
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This message last edited by Sidious on 04/02/2010 at 04:24:55 AM
So your name is Graendal...
03/02/2010 04:38:42 PM
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Nice
03/02/2010 05:46:45 PM
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Well we know she has a weather/temperature warding screen around her palace
03/02/2010 05:58:27 PM
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There's one other possibility...
03/02/2010 11:42:25 PM
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But...
04/02/2010 01:03:05 AM
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Nope...
04/02/2010 06:19:56 AM
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Point granted.
04/02/2010 06:56:19 AM
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Read the books
04/02/2010 03:47:23 PM
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04/02/2010 06:13:00 PM
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04/02/2010 06:35:27 PM
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Yeah, that's why I figured I'd post my Sidious wish-fulfillment theory below .
04/02/2010 07:44:22 PM
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So your name is Robert Jordan
03/02/2010 05:53:43 PM
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But unfortunately and tragically...
03/02/2010 06:01:15 PM
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This thought is so grotesque...
03/02/2010 07:20:20 PM
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Re: This thought is so grotesque...
03/02/2010 07:40:01 PM
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Actually no Forsaken has ever beaten or outsmarted Rand in a confrontation before.
03/02/2010 08:50:41 PM
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Uhhh...
03/02/2010 09:01:57 PM
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Yeah, but...
03/02/2010 09:21:51 PM
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But I think you're misreading the rules of the game.
03/02/2010 09:31:40 PM
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O_O
03/02/2010 09:25:17 PM
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Yeah, and this is exactly what we see when Rand kills Graendal with a force of light. *NM*
03/02/2010 09:29:08 PM
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When Rand thinks that he kills....
03/02/2010 09:34:41 PM
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Well, then we agree, I also think Graendal is definitely dead! *NM*
04/02/2010 10:06:31 AM
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He defeats every Forsaken because he doesn't play their game
04/02/2010 04:23:23 AM
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That is not true..
03/02/2010 11:50:18 PM
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This was a typical...
04/02/2010 10:17:56 AM
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There was nothing typical about it!
04/02/2010 08:48:16 PM
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Re: That is not true..
04/02/2010 03:57:56 PM
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There's a difference between Semirhage's death & Graendal's (possible) death
04/02/2010 06:48:11 PM
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So your name is Sidious
04/02/2010 12:57:46 AM
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Re: So your name is Sidious
04/02/2010 03:48:52 PM
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You're offering me a throne? Thanks Siddy, you're my favourite archnemesis!
04/02/2010 06:16:54 PM
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