Re: I found it made this stark contrast with his descriptions of his own, more human environment.
Danae al'Thor Send a noteboard - 24/04/2010 09:56:40 AM
That first sequence, where he falls down to the Station? It's simultaneously the most human and alien thing - he's so wrapped up in the cage of his technological symbiosis. He personifies his suit, and gathers emotional data from the organisation or lack thereof of the things around him.
I'm trying, very badly, to say that Kelvin himself is constructed to be the kind of guy whose primary mode of accessing the world is visual. So he notes the clouds and mimoids, he notes the space around him - what he doesn't pay attention to is his own body - I don't think I've seen a character spend so much time in mundane pain who doesn't just give in and take a nap.
Ergo. Clouds. Unavoidable.
I'm trying, very badly, to say that Kelvin himself is constructed to be the kind of guy whose primary mode of accessing the world is visual. So he notes the clouds and mimoids, he notes the space around him - what he doesn't pay attention to is his own body - I don't think I've seen a character spend so much time in mundane pain who doesn't just give in and take a nap.
Ergo. Clouds. Unavoidable.
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Sci-Fi Book Club: SOLARIS by Stanislaw Lem
- 19/04/2010 05:50:45 PM
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Roll-Call: Have you read it? Are you reading it? Like it: Yes/NO? *NM*
- 19/04/2010 05:52:00 PM
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I just finished it.
- 19/04/2010 06:54:49 PM
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Yes, I read it. Must be something like... eh. it was before the clooney horror movie came out? *NM*
- 19/04/2010 07:23:15 PM
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I'm currently reading it
- 20/04/2010 10:00:05 AM
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I am with you on that. It may not be rational or my reasons have to do with vanity
- 20/04/2010 11:18:53 PM
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Re: When you look through Lem's page on Solaris covers, that one is the least interesting.
- 24/04/2010 10:01:50 AM
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Translation:
- 19/04/2010 05:54:57 PM
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English translation by Joanna Kilmartin and Steve Cox (1970).
- 19/04/2010 06:56:54 PM
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Translation of a translation, actually. *NM*
- 19/04/2010 07:22:18 PM
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Yes, I did read Jake's intro piece there.
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- 19/04/2010 07:23:44 PM
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- 19/04/2010 07:23:44 PM
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Read a swedish translation back then.
- 19/04/2010 07:28:14 PM
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Yes, the version I read was translated from polish. All the names were intact from the original *NM*
- 20/04/2010 12:17:42 AM
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1970 translation from French to English by Joanna Kilmartin and Steve Cox
- 20/04/2010 02:20:42 AM
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Re: Does anyone know why the Polish publishers haven't commissioned another translation?
- 24/04/2010 10:04:38 AM
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So. Uh. The chick's name was Rheya in the book I read. Not in other translations?
- 19/04/2010 07:42:16 PM
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Her name in the original is Harey, it got changed to Rheya somewhere along the way of the
- 19/04/2010 07:49:33 PM
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I haven't looked into the reasons yet, outside of what would seem obvious,
- 19/04/2010 09:26:11 PM
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Re: I think the translators just thought Harey wasn't immediately accessible as a feminine name.
- 24/04/2010 09:59:17 AM
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Literature vs. Genre Fiction
- 21/04/2010 02:33:21 PM
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Re:
- 21/04/2010 09:09:02 PM
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How do you know Solaris was an advanced intelligence?
- 22/04/2010 01:20:35 AM
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It's definitely literature
- 22/04/2010 01:19:34 AM
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You might be winning me over to your thoughts here.
- 26/04/2010 09:42:33 PM
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In all fairness to my opponents, Solaris is one of my strongest cases.
- 26/04/2010 10:16:20 PM
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As long as you realize...
- 26/04/2010 10:26:00 PM
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This is why I sort of float around on this issue.
- 27/04/2010 05:49:39 PM
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Re: This is why I sort of float around on this issue.
- 13/05/2010 10:15:38 AM
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What didn't you enjoy?
- 21/04/2010 09:47:06 PM
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I didn't like the excessive description of the types of clouds on Solaris.
- 22/04/2010 01:17:22 AM
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Re: I didn't like the excessive description of the types of clouds on Solaris.
- 23/04/2010 03:33:14 AM
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Re: I found it made this stark contrast with his descriptions of his own, more human environment.
- 24/04/2010 09:56:40 AM
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So, is there really anything to discuss about the story itself?
- 22/04/2010 08:55:03 AM
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Apparently not.
- 22/04/2010 01:38:24 PM
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Point of fact,
- 23/04/2010 02:53:47 PM
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Perhaps it's time for a self-reevaluation then
- 24/04/2010 10:45:44 AM
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They never claimed to have a monopoly on guiding the discussions. I am just happy they are starting
- 25/04/2010 05:51:01 PM
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Thank you for telling me how I should prioritize my life, Larry.
- 26/04/2010 04:54:01 PM
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At least I am not as quick to repeat the same excuses
- 26/04/2010 05:13:08 PM
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I was originally gonna reply to your previous post, then decided not to. Guess I will now.
- 26/04/2010 05:42:15 PM
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Well, when my sleeping is screwed up, interpretations are going to be wonky, it seems
- 27/04/2010 06:21:57 PM
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One point...
- 26/04/2010 07:34:02 PM
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Posting while irritated and about to crash does little good, it seems
- 27/04/2010 06:20:19 PM
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The delay to the review is my fault. I've got a mostly finished one. I'm just not happy with it.
- 27/04/2010 07:19:35 PM
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It wasn't the review I was irritated about, but thanks for doing it
- 27/04/2010 07:39:08 PM
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- 27/04/2010 07:39:08 PM
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I'm a bit ambivalent on the merits of this approach of yours.
- 26/04/2010 05:32:19 PM
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I am mostly just trying the approach out as something a little bit different.
- 26/04/2010 07:23:12 PM
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Re: So what do you think about any of those things?
- 23/04/2010 08:30:55 PM
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I've posted my thoughts on most of those issues in various places in this discussion.
- 24/04/2010 05:02:44 AM
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Re: I think I'd just like for you to be more proactive and Start A Thread.
- 24/04/2010 09:50:26 AM
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A question about Lem.
- 23/04/2010 03:49:57 AM
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My main thoughts on Solaris by Stanislaw Lem
- 23/04/2010 02:50:10 AM
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I finally watched Avatar for the first time tonight.
- 25/04/2010 04:27:34 AM
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Re: I finally watched Avatar for the first time tonight.
- 25/04/2010 01:52:19 PM
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It had more to do with recognizing mankind's tendency to imposes their ideas on other cultures.
- 25/04/2010 05:35:25 PM
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On identity and communication: do we love only ourselves?
- 25/04/2010 03:35:34 PM
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I did spend a lot of the book speculating on what the planet was trying to do with those supressed
- 25/04/2010 05:05:38 PM
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The argument: (From the text and some thoughts)
- 27/04/2010 06:22:34 PM
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It is interesting you should say that.
- 12/05/2010 09:56:26 PM
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That is the second time this week that I have heard something about Derrida. Now I am going to have
- 13/05/2010 12:02:56 AM
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Is Solaris alive? Is Solaris sentient?
- 25/04/2010 03:40:57 PM
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What do you think the biggest message of the book is?
- 25/04/2010 03:47:03 PM
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Re: Does he let go of her? How independant is she of him?
- 25/04/2010 04:07:33 PM
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Did anyone else do any wondering what their own visitors would take the form of if they were there?
- 26/04/2010 11:31:27 PM
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Re: You know, the more I think about it, the more surprised I am everyone only seemed to have one.
- 10/05/2010 10:08:23 PM
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