Re: The Lovegoods? This is why reading in translation can be annoying...
Camilla Send a noteboard - 17/08/2010 12:38:09 PM
Bertha Jorkins and Mr Crouch crop up together, and Ludo Bagman is mentioned.
It's noteworthy that Percy's low opinion of Bagman will prove to be justified, by and large, unlike of course his hero-worship of Mr Crouch.
And Mr Crouch's worry and interest for Bertha's disparition becomes far more interesting now - of course he's worried, that woman can bring him down if his memory spell is ever broken.
More importantly, the accio spell is emphatically introduced, as are portkeys. And the Lovegoods.
It's when they are discussing whether anyone else will show for the portkeys. Mr Weasley says that the Lovegoods have already been at the site for a week (presumably they had cheaper tickets).
True, hadn't thought of that - both enormously important spells in this book, and both introduced in subtle ways here. We get a (Dis)apparating 101 as well, which will only really become important in book six.
Where are the Lovegoods mentioned? It would appear the Dutch translator has missed that, or just decided to make up a new name for them once he found out Luna Lovegood would become an important character in book five. Annoying.
But other than that I do not see these as plot-heavy chapters. I'd be happy to be proven wrong.
No, I think you covered most of the important things.
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Also on the topic of Amos' talk of Cedric and Harry... (spoilers for end of book)
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Oh, I can think of a few more things that will prove relevant. But that's for tomorrow.
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And arguably another one of those fun names with a hidden meaning...
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I thought that might be it. Yeah, different names in the Dutch translation then. *NM*
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There's a first mention of Beauxbatons in chapter nine.
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Makes sense.
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Plotting and writing: a bit of a lull in the tension, perhaps, but there's still a lot going on. *NM*
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Lasso comment?
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When discussing methods to separate girls from their gang.
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Ah. Hehe. Yes.
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It's not really a humourous pun, just a nice find by the translator.
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Holy crap.
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Yeah, I don't know if the Google pictures are entirely representative...
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That's a good point, yeah...
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Maybe they should have had a magical big screen projection of what was going on in the lake lol
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Lots of stuff -- I may have to change my opinion of Rowling's plotting in this book.
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Marauder's Map.
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Other comments. *NM*
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Two completely unrelated things.
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Riddle Family.
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Revelations and then some
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I think she has more room to display her talent in this book.
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Suggestions for the re-read.
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Is it possible / easy to make the post an Announcement while it's ongoing?
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When should we start the next book? And at which pace?
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