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Marauder's Map. Cockatiel of Doom Send a noteboard - 05/09/2010 05:27:17 AM
We get Barty Crouch in Snape's office. That is one major all-round hint. Not only does it suggest something is wrong with Crouch (while, obviously, burying that instantly in a suggestion that Crouch is there on covert business to check up on Snape), it lays the ground for the revelation that Moody is Crouch (the only time Harry looks at the map, that is the name he sees), but also that he is the one getting the gillyweed. We are even given the clue of Moody showing up just as Harry is trapped in the staircase.


Was Barty Crouch the younger actually called "Junior?" Cuz you would've thought that would have shown on the map. Maybe they just literally had the exact same name. I am probably being dumb here, but I assume Moody/Crouch was lying when he looked at the map and said Crouch wasn't on it anymore. I guess Harry wouldn't have noticed him coming closer since the map was lying several stairs down.

Snape's desire to hide the fact that someone broke into his office is odd. Does it refer to something I do not know about?


I don't know. It is odd. Especially since he so readily tells it to Filch. Maybe it is just the fact that he does not like or trust Moody.

Taking a break from being Ella

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Madame Maxime, Crouch, Snape, Twins, Fudge and Neville Camilla - 26/08/2010 02:48:04 PM 2797 Views
Re: Madame Maxime, Crouch, Snape, Twins, Fudge and Neville Legolas - 26/08/2010 03:22:14 PM 2771 Views
Re: Madame Maxime, Crouch, Snape, Twins, Fudge and Neville Camilla - 26/08/2010 03:45:58 PM 2748 Views
Also Camilla - 26/08/2010 10:45:57 PM 2832 Views
Plotting and writing: increasing signs of danger, and revelations about the past. *NM* Legolas - 26/08/2010 12:16:50 PM 1488 Views
Some good plotting here, and some recurring issues. Camilla - 26/08/2010 02:50:29 PM 2757 Views
Re: Some good plotting here, and some recurring issues. Legolas - 26/08/2010 03:38:53 PM 2987 Views
Re: Some good plotting here, and some recurring issues. Camilla - 26/08/2010 03:51:32 PM 2810 Views
Re: Some good plotting here, and some recurring issues. Legolas - 26/08/2010 04:05:12 PM 2738 Views
Re: Some good plotting here, and some recurring issues. Camilla - 26/08/2010 04:09:12 PM 2809 Views
Yes. Elaine - 27/08/2010 02:02:22 PM 2757 Views
Everything else. *NM* Legolas - 26/08/2010 12:17:07 PM 1501 Views
My favourite category. Two things this time Camilla - 26/08/2010 02:51:16 PM 2648 Views
More owl comments. Cockatiel of Doom - 05/09/2010 05:35:49 AM 2769 Views
Chapters 31-33: The third task Rebekah - 16/08/2010 09:38:01 AM 2733 Views
Characters: The Trio, the Champions, Voldemort, Wormtail,,... *NM* Legolas - 27/08/2010 01:32:11 PM 1507 Views
Ron, Mrs Weasley, Madame Maxime, Wormtail, Voldemort, Quirrel Camilla - 27/08/2010 03:50:03 PM 2705 Views
Re: Ron, Mrs Weasley, Madame Maxime, Wormtail, Voldemort, Quirrel Legolas - 27/08/2010 05:09:48 PM 2676 Views
Re: Ron, Mrs Weasley, Madame Maxime, Wormtail, Voldemort, Quirrel Camilla - 27/08/2010 05:23:14 PM 2737 Views
It's a good question... the mystery of Voldemort's wand. Legolas - 27/08/2010 06:01:19 PM 2783 Views
Re: It's a good question... the mystery of Voldemort's wand. Camilla - 27/08/2010 06:06:34 PM 2828 Views
Plotting and writing: thrilling action, but also a fair bit of infodump/flashback. *NM* Legolas - 27/08/2010 01:34:13 PM 1500 Views
Stuff happens. Camilla - 27/08/2010 03:50:33 PM 2734 Views
So it does. Legolas - 27/08/2010 05:42:40 PM 2832 Views
Re: So it does. Camilla - 27/08/2010 05:55:33 PM 2765 Views
Re: Stuff happens. Cockatiel of Doom - 05/09/2010 05:48:41 AM 2824 Views
Re: Stuff happens. Camilla - 05/09/2010 10:08:49 AM 2770 Views
Riddle Family. Cockatiel of Doom - 05/09/2010 05:39:29 AM 2750 Views
No. The three dead bodies are... Legolas - 05/09/2010 12:19:48 PM 2885 Views
Re: No. The three dead bodies are... Cockatiel of Doom - 05/09/2010 04:46:26 PM 2837 Views
Anything else to add? *NM* Legolas - 27/08/2010 01:34:39 PM 1477 Views
Naturally Camilla - 27/08/2010 03:50:58 PM 2912 Views
Re: Naturally Legolas - 27/08/2010 06:06:59 PM 2618 Views
Re: Naturally Camilla - 27/08/2010 06:11:26 PM 3041 Views
Chapters 34-37: The climax and the aftermath *NM* Rebekah - 16/08/2010 09:38:22 AM 1466 Views
Characters: Well, pretty much all of them, I guess. *NM* Legolas - 28/08/2010 11:04:41 AM 1467 Views
Voldemort, Harry, Dumbledore, Snape, Ron and Hermione Camilla - 28/08/2010 11:57:25 AM 2828 Views
Re: Voldemort, Harry, Dumbledore, Snape, Ron and Hermione Legolas - 29/08/2010 03:00:49 PM 2766 Views
Re: Voldemort, Harry, Dumbledore, Snape, Ron and Hermione Camilla - 29/08/2010 03:11:25 PM 3094 Views
Plotting and writing: tying up, explanations and setting up the future books. *NM* Legolas - 28/08/2010 11:05:33 AM 1474 Views
Revelations and then some Camilla - 28/08/2010 12:02:36 PM 2767 Views
The gleam in Dumbledore's eyes Dark Knight - 28/08/2010 11:26:30 PM 3203 Views
Re: The gleam in Dumbledore's eyes Camilla - 28/08/2010 11:28:35 PM 2991 Views
Re: Revelations and then some Legolas - 29/08/2010 03:22:46 PM 2766 Views
Re: Revelations and then some Camilla - 29/08/2010 03:37:45 PM 2893 Views
Any other thoughts? *NM* Legolas - 28/08/2010 11:06:03 AM 1488 Views
Two questions and one other thing. Camilla - 28/08/2010 12:03:14 PM 2891 Views
Re: Two questions and one other thing. Legolas - 29/08/2010 03:27:02 PM 3036 Views
Re: Two questions and one other thing. Camilla - 29/08/2010 03:31:43 PM 2738 Views
The book as a whole: overall thoughts, comments and obversations Rebekah - 16/08/2010 09:39:24 AM 2734 Views
What do/did you think of Rowling's writing in this book? Rebekah - 16/08/2010 09:40:03 AM 2828 Views
I think she has more room to display her talent in this book. Legolas - 28/08/2010 11:27:20 AM 2902 Views
I am not sure that is a good thing Camilla - 28/08/2010 12:17:56 PM 2781 Views
Re: I am not sure that is a good thing Legolas - 28/08/2010 11:00:29 PM 2944 Views
Suggestions for the re-read. Rebekah - 16/08/2010 09:41:01 AM 2900 Views
Is it possible / easy to make the post an Announcement while it's ongoing? StormCrow - 17/08/2010 03:08:31 PM 2746 Views
Well. Yes. Rebekah - 17/08/2010 06:22:10 PM 2827 Views
Ah! That really helps me too! aria - 17/08/2010 08:00:30 PM 2808 Views
Works for me too. Thanks for the tip! *NM* StormCrow - 17/08/2010 08:13:48 PM 1477 Views
When should we start the next book? And at which pace? Legolas - 28/08/2010 11:09:07 AM 3033 Views
Re: When should we start the next book? And at which pace? Camilla - 28/08/2010 12:05:31 PM 3009 Views
School started and that threw me off. aria - 30/08/2010 09:01:31 PM 2842 Views
Mine was school as well. Seriana Sedai - 01/09/2010 05:33:24 AM 2894 Views
I just haven't checked the messageboards at all recently. Cockatiel of Doom - 03/09/2010 03:28:20 AM 2822 Views
That would be good Camilla - 03/09/2010 08:19:49 AM 2792 Views
I like that idea. Rebekah - 08/09/2010 04:55:49 PM 2762 Views
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