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Re: High emotions. Camilla Send a noteboard - 29/09/2010 10:05:32 PM
As usual a crisis brings out new sides to Rowling's characters.

Yes. This, I think, makes these rather unique for children's books and makes the characters seem more human. Often times they're reacting with half information or faulty information in that crisis, given communication barriers in the relationships with other characters.

Dumbledore: The scene in Dumbledore's office does suggest that Dumbledore has been right to avoid Harry's eyes all this time. And it is clear that that this avoidance of eye contact does not come naturally to him. In earlier books he has been very closely associated with his eyes, and has used them very directly, having them linger on people who are important and using them to (fairly literally) see to the truth of things. The impact of this scene is therefore very strong.

I still disagree here. Don't want to go far down that path, but with Dumbledore being (self proclaimed) accomplished at Occlumency, he should have been able to protect himself from that earlier on and provided some guidance before this point. This scene should definitely be a red flag to him with the severity of Harry's reaction and the dream, as it was. Assigning him lessons with Snape is a questionable call though, once he's seen that impact. He should be able to tell that Harry doesn't like or trust him, despite Dumbledore's assurances that he is trustworthy.


But that is just the point. The aim is to not provide a reason for Voldemort to attempt to take control of Harry. Not because it will hurt Dumbledore, but because it will hurt Harry. Occlumency on Dumbledore's part will not stop that.

Harry: I feel quite sorry for him here. His paranoia is (for once) perfectly justifiable. It does take him rather beyond rationality in the beginning of the Christmas chapter, but he does bring up one good point: if Voldemort can see into his brain, he is getting way too much information on the Order.

His self-involvement is really a little over the top, however. Can he really have forgotten that Voldemort possessed Ginny? It seems incredible.

It would be agonizing to be bundled up with the Weasleys after being party to the attack. They all handle it well, once Mr. Weasley is in the clear, but I think I would feel guilty and frightened about it if I were in Harry's shoes. Ginny's reactions were well played, as you mentioned. It is incredible that he would not remember, but I don't think he's seeing her much beyond Ron's little sister at this point. That starts to change near the end and with the collapse of his "relationship" with Cho.


Legolas pointed out that Harry at this point has not slept for ages, and probably not eaten much. His near-insane reactions are therefore justifiable.

Sirius: Poor Sirius. But again crisis brings out the best in him. He is good at crises. It is very clear that the being cooped up with Kreecher at HQ is getting to him (stale drink, unshaved), and also very clear that Fred's jab about it being easy to talk while being "safe" (which is SPECTACULARLY UNFAIR, I might add) hits a very sore point. But he collects himself, understands and attempts to make it better. Man, I love Sirius.

I also like the idea of him happy over Christmas.

Agree on both counts with Sirius. I wish we got some more screen time with him in GoF. He's getting more and more interesting as a character, up until... It would have been nice to have him around longer.


Indeed.

The Twins: While what they say to Sirius is obviously very wrong, I like reading about their lashing out like that. It is so uncharacteristic of them, it is a clear sign of real emotional turmoil. And we are not really used to that from them. We did see it on the Quidditch pitch, but while a little out of proportion, their reaction there was perfectly justifiable. I like how they step out of line here.

It is also interesting that it is Fred who says it. And later on, George goes with Ginny to embrace Molly, while Fred sits down and covers his face. It does harmonise with the pattern of a subtle distinction between the twins which we have seen before.

I think the differences between the Twins are a fun part of them as characters and this (as you've pointed out) does show them as distinct individuals. Fred is usually out in front, as he was in this case, right or wrong. This will be interesting to discuss in the Deathly Hallows thread.


Yes. Especially since I cannot remember which one dies.

Phineas Nigellus: I really like him. Anyone who calls Harry in a temper tantrum a ``poor puffed-up popinjay'' gets points from me. And he is perfectly right, of course. Harry should know Dumbledore probably has his reasons for what he does.

He has some of the best one-liners about the kids in the series, including that one. :D


True.

Percy: He is such a bastard. It is quite shocking that his father almost dying did not shake him out of his insane ambition.

I'm with you on this one. I understand it wasn't widely publicized, but how can he be that snowed in with the Ministry? It takes quite a bit for him to turn around, even at the last minute.


Yes.

Neville: I feel so sorry for him. His grandmother is right, of course, and I wish Harry would have said something about them being heroes or some such, to indicate that he knew and that he did not think they were ridiculous in any way, before she rounded on Neville for supposedly being ashamed. I don't really think it is shame. I think it is pain. But I am not entirely sure. Perhaps it is a mixture.

Probably a bit of both. Doubt he would want anyone to see his Mom like that either. He is intensely proud of his parents though, as indicated by his brawl with Malfoy and the goons outside of potions class when they mentioned something around the subject of St. Mungos and insanity. Can't remember the quote. Neville is one of my favorite child characters in the series, mostly because of the change he's undergoing from the DA on. Love that he keeps the gum wrapper too.


He is lovely.

Another great scene from St. Mungos is the Mr. Weasley's experiment with stitches and the reaction from Mrs. Weasley.


Indeed. And when you put it like that, sewing someone up sounds insane.

Snape: He is so mean to Sirius here. It is perhaps the worst we see him -- even worse than the way he taunts the children, to my mind. Perhaps because it is so unjustified. He really drives home the point that you don't have to be a good guy to be a Good Guy.

I wonder whether he gains some sympathy with Harry through seeing his memories of his childhood. Surely it must help undo the image he has created of him. And the question about the dog: it may be wishful thinking, but I am not reading it as an unfriendly question. Especially as it is followed up what from Snape is quite a compliment. It makes sense for him to test his natural ability to resist before giving him the tools … a sort of baseline. And he does immediately explain how to get better at it after that. I dislike what the films did with this bit. It became all taunts and no teaching, which is not what happens in the book at all.

The movie definitely does not do this justice, but I still think it's a horribly unfair way of teaching Harry (who already thinks Snape is out to get him). Granted, Harry never improves because he doesn't bother learning or trying to do so. You would think that seeing these memories would soften Snape to Harry, but all of that is undone with the later shield charm and trip into the pensieve. Then it's Harry's turn to sympathize with Snape and that doesn't last long either. Their relationship is much more 3 dimensional in the books.


Yes.

It is interesting to read other reactions into the description of Snape at this point than the interpretations furnished by Harry. Snape's pallor and anger when Harry gives him his mother and father in the mirror, for example. I assume Snape had not expected to run into Lily in her son's memories.

A lot of Snape's early reactions are like this, once you've had his revelations from Deathly Hallows. Those put new color into just about everything he does in the series, especially with Harry, but even his treatment of Hermoine. I get the feeling now and then that he dislikes her because of her attachment to Harry, but that he also compares her to Lily at times as well. I love that aspect of his character and you can really pick up on it in rereads.


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Character development. - 17/09/2010 12:06:52 PM 2132 Views
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I don't know how I missed it. - 19/09/2010 02:16:11 AM 2196 Views
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According to the HP Wiki at Wikia, there should be a more explicit mention of it in book seven. *NM* - 19/09/2010 07:34:10 PM 1202 Views
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He is lovely. - 17/09/2010 06:22:27 PM 2093 Views
His shifts between the two are handled nicely. - 17/09/2010 07:19:38 PM 2255 Views
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It's cheesy. *NM* - 17/09/2010 08:41:32 PM 1197 Views
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Yeah, let's. *NM* - 20/09/2010 10:37:32 AM 1244 Views
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Re: Character development. - 17/09/2010 06:17:37 PM 2251 Views
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Other things of note. - 17/09/2010 12:07:33 PM 2207 Views
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Characters: Luna, Umbridge and the Sorting Hat *NM* - 20/09/2010 08:03:30 AM 1233 Views
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Maybe she doesn't realize all that, but really, how much effort does it take to be clear? - 20/09/2010 05:43:57 PM 2223 Views
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Oh, I think it is. - 20/09/2010 06:30:33 PM 2133 Views
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My head is spinning a bit from this debate. - 21/09/2010 03:01:16 PM 2206 Views
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Prefect picking. - 22/09/2010 03:10:04 AM 2195 Views
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Weasley goodness. - 22/09/2010 03:16:41 AM 2172 Views
Re: Weasley goodness. - 22/09/2010 09:03:52 AM 2310 Views
Re: Weasley goodness. - 23/09/2010 04:32:45 AM 2341 Views
Plot: things you've noticed. *NM* - 20/09/2010 08:04:13 AM 1206 Views
Not much in these chapters - 20/09/2010 03:45:55 PM 2233 Views
Oh, there's more than that. - 20/09/2010 04:43:28 PM 2181 Views
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I remembered now: Barty Crouch Junior. - 20/09/2010 05:08:16 PM 2170 Views
I did not get that from the passage - 20/09/2010 05:19:45 PM 2154 Views
Hmm. - 20/09/2010 05:38:28 PM 2209 Views
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Because it rather seems like it'd come up if he had. - 20/09/2010 06:21:30 PM 2248 Views
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You make a good point. - 21/09/2010 03:12:10 PM 2239 Views
Oh yes: Assyria is a wizarding country. - 22/09/2010 09:42:27 AM 2216 Views
Er, that should've gone under anything else. Oh well. *NM* - 22/09/2010 09:46:30 AM 1324 Views
Yes - 22/09/2010 09:50:47 AM 2154 Views
Because that's the only modern meaning of "Assyrian". - 22/09/2010 09:58:03 AM 2313 Views
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Who knows? Don't think we've seen much discussion of religion in the wizarding world. *NM* - 22/09/2010 10:02:30 AM 1211 Views
True - 22/09/2010 12:00:12 PM 2221 Views
On their broomsticks, obviously *NM* - 23/09/2010 02:27:06 PM 1242 Views
In that part of the world I understand they use flying carpets, actually. *NM* - 23/09/2010 03:16:18 PM 1153 Views
Wasn't there a mention of someone trying to smuggle flying carpets into England? - 23/09/2010 06:17:58 PM 2073 Views
I know there was one in book 4 - 23/09/2010 06:43:34 PM 2106 Views
That's right, talking shop with Dad. - 23/09/2010 07:40:42 PM 2094 Views
Themes - 20/09/2010 08:05:17 AM 2082 Views
Bigotry and control - 20/09/2010 03:49:49 PM 2257 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 20/09/2010 08:05:33 AM 1223 Views
Thestrals & Hufflepuff - 20/09/2010 03:50:34 PM 2106 Views
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For some reason... - 22/09/2010 03:24:14 AM 2277 Views
Yes - 22/09/2010 08:55:50 AM 2169 Views
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Character development: how are our three main characters getting along? - 22/09/2010 12:43:53 PM 2070 Views
Some interesting developments, I thought. - 22/09/2010 01:57:42 PM 2242 Views
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Dumbledore, this really bugs me - 23/09/2010 03:39:28 AM 2083 Views
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Plot progression, and continuing themes. - 22/09/2010 12:44:34 PM 2307 Views
Action and reaction - 22/09/2010 12:50:35 PM 2280 Views
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Umbridge - 23/09/2010 03:54:48 AM 2291 Views
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Any other comments? - 22/09/2010 12:44:54 PM 2122 Views
Erm. - 23/09/2010 04:48:03 AM 2129 Views
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Not really a distance thing, but... - 23/09/2010 02:58:55 PM 2146 Views
The title of chapter 13. - 27/09/2010 03:58:04 PM 2306 Views
Good point. - 27/09/2010 04:00:56 PM 2225 Views
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Le plot. - 24/09/2010 05:06:34 PM 2142 Views
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Kittens! - 24/09/2010 07:09:28 PM 2090 Views
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Les Characters - 27/09/2010 07:57:17 AM 2132 Views
Ron, Umbridge, McGonagall, Hagrid, Cho, Hermione, Harry - 27/09/2010 03:26:13 PM 2221 Views
Re: Ron, Umbridge, McGonagall, Hagrid, Cho, Hermione, Harry - 27/09/2010 04:57:55 PM 2203 Views
Re: Ron, Umbridge, McGonagall, Hagrid, Cho, Hermione, Harry - 27/09/2010 05:08:10 PM 2084 Views
Re: Various characters you mentioned - 29/09/2010 03:54:42 AM 2207 Views
Re: Various characters you mentioned - 29/09/2010 09:41:16 AM 2251 Views
Plot - are we happy with what's happening? - 27/09/2010 07:58:33 AM 2176 Views
Definitely some things of note! - 27/09/2010 02:43:41 PM 2146 Views
Re: Definitely some things of note! - 27/09/2010 03:36:39 PM 2227 Views
Re: Definitely some things of note! - 27/09/2010 04:03:17 PM 2173 Views
Re: Definitely some things of note! - 27/09/2010 04:07:20 PM 1999 Views
Mirroring - 27/09/2010 03:27:51 PM 2158 Views
Re: Mirroring - this is good. - 30/09/2010 02:43:21 PM 2215 Views
Any other thoughts? - 27/09/2010 07:59:14 AM 2066 Views
Bigotry, the Sorting Hat and Giants - 27/09/2010 03:28:10 PM 2043 Views
Re: Bigotry, the Sorting Hat and Giants - 27/09/2010 05:08:42 PM 2042 Views
Re: Bigotry, the Sorting Hat and Giants - 27/09/2010 05:21:20 PM 2126 Views
Re: Gnomes - 29/09/2010 04:00:20 AM 2027 Views
Re: Gnomes - 29/09/2010 09:43:54 AM 2167 Views
Re: Gnomes - 30/09/2010 03:27:37 AM 2205 Views
Wednesday 29 September: chapters 22-24 - 13/09/2010 09:29:12 PM 2252 Views
Characters and characterisation *NM* - 29/09/2010 04:43:38 PM 1192 Views
High emotions. - 29/09/2010 05:11:07 PM 2206 Views
Re: High emotions. - 29/09/2010 08:21:46 PM 2157 Views
Re: High emotions. - 29/09/2010 09:51:14 PM 2208 Views
Re: High emotions. - 29/09/2010 10:06:43 PM 2132 Views
Re: High emotions. - 29/09/2010 10:28:58 PM 2099 Views
Re: High emotions. - 29/09/2010 11:31:04 PM 2122 Views
Re: High emotions. - 29/09/2010 11:35:52 PM 2153 Views
Re: High emotions. - 29/09/2010 09:18:42 PM 1947 Views
Re: High emotions. - 29/09/2010 10:05:32 PM 2164 Views
Re: High emotions. - 30/09/2010 04:04:31 AM 2142 Views
Themes and progression of themes. *NM* - 29/09/2010 04:44:11 PM 1141 Views
A bit of a respite on that score - 29/09/2010 05:18:46 PM 2151 Views
Plotting and plot continuity *NM* - 29/09/2010 04:44:32 PM 1186 Views
Re: Plotting and plot continuity - 29/09/2010 05:11:43 PM 2398 Views
Re: Plotting and plot continuity - 29/09/2010 09:17:02 PM 2232 Views
Re: Plotting and plot continuity - 29/09/2010 09:58:03 PM 2280 Views
Re: Plotting and plot continuity - 30/09/2010 02:36:25 PM 2262 Views
Other things of note. *NM* - 29/09/2010 04:44:51 PM 1207 Views
A Question - 29/09/2010 05:12:06 PM 2186 Views
Rowling is having fun once more, this time with St. Mungo's. - 29/09/2010 09:19:53 PM 2183 Views
Re: Rowling is having fun once more, this time with St. Mungo's. - 29/09/2010 10:35:51 PM 2010 Views
Re: Rowling is having fun once more, this time with St. Mungo's. - 30/09/2010 03:42:21 AM 2182 Views
The Lockheart encounter is great too. - 30/09/2010 05:21:17 AM 2177 Views
Re: The Lockheart encounter is great too. - 30/09/2010 02:50:18 PM 2215 Views
Friday 1 October: chapters 25-27 - Sorry I'm late. - 13/09/2010 09:29:58 PM 2101 Views
Plot/action: getting exciting? *NM* - 02/10/2010 11:25:48 AM 1219 Views
Beginning of the end - 02/10/2010 07:55:36 PM 2288 Views
Re: Beginning of the end - 05/10/2010 10:45:32 PM 2182 Views
Re: Beginning of the end - 05/10/2010 10:52:28 PM 2238 Views
Re: Beginning of the end - 06/10/2010 01:33:57 AM 2152 Views
Other things. *NM* - 02/10/2010 11:26:06 AM 1133 Views
The way reactions are given, and an observation about occlumency. - 02/10/2010 07:55:48 PM 2261 Views
The least important of your points... - 04/10/2010 08:18:04 PM 2368 Views
Re: The least important of your points... - 04/10/2010 08:20:15 PM 2141 Views
Re: The least important of your points... - 05/10/2010 07:41:32 PM 2288 Views
Monday 4 October: chapters 28-30 - bad memories, dramatic exits, and large brothers. - 13/09/2010 09:32:03 PM 2185 Views
Plotting and themes. - 04/10/2010 06:32:16 PM 2174 Views
family and bigotry - 04/10/2010 07:41:22 PM 2208 Views
Weasley Mayhem. And stuff. - 05/10/2010 02:07:06 AM 2187 Views
Re: Weasley Mayhem. And stuff. - 05/10/2010 09:06:04 AM 2082 Views
Re: family and bigotry - 05/10/2010 11:27:55 PM 2208 Views
Re: family and bigotry - 05/10/2010 11:37:11 PM 2128 Views
Anything else? - 04/10/2010 06:32:43 PM 2206 Views
portaits - 04/10/2010 07:41:49 PM 2000 Views
I'm wondering if Dumbledore is camping out in his office. - 05/10/2010 11:19:03 PM 2254 Views
Re: I'm wondering if Dumbledore is camping out in his office. - 05/10/2010 11:28:37 PM 2272 Views
That would be awesome. - 06/10/2010 02:28:33 AM 2174 Views
Wednesday 6 October: chapters 31-33 - OWLs, fights and other such hijinks. - 13/09/2010 09:32:40 PM 2198 Views
Plot! Theme and Action! - 06/10/2010 08:14:21 PM 2130 Views
The trap is set - 06/10/2010 08:36:03 PM 2146 Views
Re: The trap is set - 06/10/2010 09:37:17 PM 2126 Views
Re: The trap is set - 06/10/2010 09:50:15 PM 2221 Views
Anything else you want to waffle about. - 06/10/2010 08:14:50 PM 2178 Views
exams - 06/10/2010 08:36:35 PM 2137 Views
Friday 8 October: chapters 34-36 - The big fight and the big farewell. - 13/09/2010 09:33:45 PM 2321 Views
Characters: Death Eaters, Order of the Phoenix, and the children. - 08/10/2010 11:19:58 AM 2255 Views
Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin - 08/10/2010 07:52:01 PM 2175 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin - 09/10/2010 01:00:00 AM 2370 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin - 09/10/2010 10:23:24 AM 2053 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin - 10/10/2010 03:40:46 AM 2033 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin - 10/10/2010 10:54:31 AM 2251 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin - 12/10/2010 02:46:40 AM 2309 Views
First big appearance for Bellatrix. - 09/10/2010 01:11:54 AM 2266 Views
Re: First big appearance for Bellatrix. - 09/10/2010 10:13:26 AM 2224 Views
Action. And more action. - 08/10/2010 11:20:49 AM 2185 Views
The tragedy - 08/10/2010 07:51:29 PM 2276 Views
Re: The tragedy - 09/10/2010 12:42:53 AM 2055 Views
Re: The tragedy - 09/10/2010 12:49:31 AM 2265 Views
I'm wondering what would have happened... - 09/10/2010 01:14:58 AM 1967 Views
Re: I'm wondering what would have happened... - 09/10/2010 10:16:25 AM 2109 Views
Re: I'm wondering what would have happened... - 10/10/2010 03:22:18 AM 2338 Views
Book 7 spoilers ( I know they are implied, but I'd feel bad if I didn't warn) - 11/10/2010 12:51:06 AM 2186 Views
Re: Book 7 spoilers ( I know they are implied, but I'd feel bad if I didn't warn) - 12/10/2010 02:48:53 AM 2124 Views
Other things. - 08/10/2010 11:21:12 AM 2129 Views
Re: Other things. - 08/10/2010 07:52:45 PM 2179 Views
Well. - 10/10/2010 03:26:01 AM 2151 Views
Monday 11 October: chapters 37-38 ~ The end of innocence? - 13/09/2010 09:35:14 PM 2264 Views
How are our characters left? - 11/10/2010 05:25:39 PM 2214 Views
Plot and theme: - 11/10/2010 05:26:37 PM 2146 Views
Prophecy, choice, house elves and knowledge. - 11/10/2010 11:50:46 PM 2361 Views
Any other thoughts? - 11/10/2010 05:27:17 PM 2044 Views
One minor and one major disappointment. - 11/10/2010 11:51:08 PM 2350 Views
Re: One minor and one major disappointment. - 12/10/2010 02:53:28 AM 2359 Views
General comments. - 13/09/2010 09:36:13 PM 2224 Views
The first time I read this book I didn't like it much. - 14/09/2010 04:23:43 AM 2199 Views
It was one of my favourite books from the get-go. - 14/09/2010 09:08:03 AM 2316 Views
The structure of this book is different from the earlier ones - 15/09/2010 09:55:26 AM 2352 Views
What do we think of Rowling's writing skills in this book? - 22/09/2010 12:54:14 PM 2174 Views
Much improved - 22/09/2010 03:08:51 PM 2125 Views
How do you feel about the book as a whole? - 11/10/2010 05:28:23 PM 2112 Views
Re: How do you feel about the book as a whole? - 12/10/2010 03:00:01 AM 2320 Views
Suggestions for the re-read. - 13/09/2010 09:36:56 PM 2168 Views
Your links don't work - 14/09/2010 10:37:32 AM 2106 Views
Fixed. *NM* - 14/09/2010 10:46:08 AM 1290 Views
I just copied old ones. - 14/09/2010 06:32:50 PM 2194 Views
Do we need to have another break? - 27/09/2010 08:00:04 AM 2229 Views
Before the next book, you mean? - 27/09/2010 01:05:14 PM 2091 Views
But now I want to keep reading them. </whine> - 29/09/2010 04:02:57 AM 2085 Views
We'll start Book 6 on Monday 18 October. - 11/10/2010 05:29:21 PM 2270 Views

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