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Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore Camilla Send a noteboard - 04/10/2010 09:18:42 PM
I think she just said that "if we sign this, we agree not to tell anyone". I think "if you tell anyone, your face will be horribly disfigured" would have had a good preventive effect.

First, I agree, tricking people into this was not cool. However, they probably should have handled the whole recruiting thing differently. I mean, inviting everyone there to talk it over set them up to have a problem if certain people didn't join. If they had the option, would that girl have signed up? Not likely. Neither would Zacharias Smith or some of the other whinier members of the DA. They're in a difficult position either way.


She could have told them after they signed. My point is that there is no point having a horrible curse if people do not know about it: it is not a deterrent.

Neville: I like the effect of the break-out on him. Again, because he has been set up as slow to control magic, the change is so powerful. It is especially interesting in view of the earlier theory that the reason he has trouble with magic is that he has developed some block as a result of the trauma of what happened to his parents. If so, the possibility of being able to fight the Lestranges makes even more sense as a catalyst.

He is growing quite rapidly here. I like it. :)

Indeed.

I love Neville. He makes great strides here and in the next two books. Definitely one of the best of the school age characters.

Harry: Are teenage boys really that clueless? I feel I should be protesting an unfair stereotype, but then I realised I don't know whether it is accurate or not.

Hm. I think *all* boys are that clueless. :P

Not mine :|

You own a teenage boy?!?! :P


No, you will notice I was replying to the claim that all boys are like that. Mine is no longer a teenager.

Yes. But I cannot help feel that she is more astute than Fudge. I really don't know. I don't know whether it is even something that concerns here. I suspect her one criteria is whether someone supports the Minister or opposes him. The right and wrongs of the situation would probably not enter into it. Especially considering how she acts in Deathly Hollows.

I don't think she cares if he's telling the truth. Definitely agree with you here. Her aims are to further the ministry and protect it from destabilizing influence (even if that is from a 15 y/o telling the truth).

The teachers: I think this is what I love the most about this book. The conspiratorial side to the teachers. Here exemplified by the showering Harry in points and candy after the interview. It makes me happy when the teachers band together with the students against a common enemy. Especially when that enemy is Umbridge. Especially Trelawny's prediction that Harry would not die. I love it :D (incidentally, her final prediction is also a true one -- with the possible exception for the exact number of children).

It's pretty awesome. They did the same thing to Lockhart in book 2.

This is definitely a great parallel with Lockhart, though they must hate Umbridge an awful lot more. Sets up nicely how they treat her when the twins run amuck at the school. Also, that was one of the best scenes for Trelwany, though I love her casual (and usually correct) foretellings while wandering around the halls.


True.

Snape: His memories. I like this scene. It gives the first bit of insight into his background. I wonder whether the girl who is laughing as the scrawny boy is trying to mount the broomstick is someone we know ... Lilly has a tendency to pop up before Snape reacts, and that is the last memory before he stops it.

His reactions really point to him wanting Harry to learn. The fact that he gets the most angry from proof that the link to Voldemort is as strong as ever ...

Yeah, as readers we can tell that he wants Harry to learn, but I can see from Harry's point of view where the mistrust/hate/anger/whateveryouwanttocallit comes from. Doesn't stop me wanting him to practice more, though.

This is something Rowling does pretty well, with characters operating under false assumptions and half truths, largely at their own expense. Snape is the largest example of it, for his entire story line, and he impacts SO many of the "good guys" along the way. Really, him operating under half of the prophecy causes the whole story to begin with. This is a great scene into his past and heading towards an explanation of his immediate mistreatment of Harry.


Indeed.

Agree about Harry. Put aside the anger and try to figure something out. This is important enough that Dumbledore wants you to work with someone he knows you have trouble with. Hermoine's more pragmatic view is a much better one here.

I also love (no, I don't think "love" is too strong a word) how he handles the scene in his office. Telling Harry to lie outright and tricking and plotting -- it is beautiful. I like this ability to see the need for cheating. And how he does not hesitate to sacrifice himself in order to keep Harry in school, and how he dismisses the idea of being sent to Azkaban. The complete rejection of following the rules. Lovely, lovely, lovely.

And Harry's shock when he realizes what Dumbledore is telling him to do. It's more direct communication than he's had from Dumbledore in nearly the whole book so far, too. Which admittedly is not much.

Yes. And again, no eye contact. I like the description of it. Telling things to Harry's knee, for example.

I love the dismisal of Azkaban as well and that he just difuses (at least somewhat) the situation for the actual members of the DA. My one problem with this scene is Kingsley's Imperius on the sneak. I know it's the least of the unforgiveable curses, but they've been leacturing for books about how the good guys should never ever use them. Except when convenient, I suppose.


I thought it was just a memory charm. I see no reason to Imperius her when he could just modify her memory.

I think it was mentioned somewhere when we started discussing Nigellus.

Yes, he has some funny one-liners about the teens in this one as well. Good way to close out that scene.
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I know. - 14/09/2010 09:02:08 AM 2648 Views
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You're right of course. - 14/09/2010 11:58:06 PM 2698 Views
Harry's rage. - 14/09/2010 02:53:13 PM 2685 Views
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Pent up over the other installments. - 14/09/2010 03:30:00 PM 2566 Views
The Dursleys. - 15/09/2010 01:23:18 AM 2677 Views
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Plotplotplot (plot makes a funny noise when you say it like that). - 13/09/2010 09:22:27 PM 2782 Views
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two questions. - 13/09/2010 11:49:28 PM 2636 Views
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More of Rowling's number problems? *NM* - 19/09/2010 06:36:52 PM 1483 Views
Also agreed. - 15/09/2010 01:16:28 AM 2779 Views
Those were totally the two questions I was going to ask. - 15/09/2010 01:13:29 AM 2718 Views
Surprisingly many hilarious little things for a book that's gonna be as dark as this one. - 14/09/2010 10:11:54 AM 2580 Views
That is why I love it so much. - 14/09/2010 10:14:01 AM 3348 Views
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He's incredibly blind, our Harry. - 19/09/2010 06:38:29 PM 2598 Views
I don't find it annoying, really. - 19/09/2010 07:27:11 PM 2480 Views
I dislike it intensely. - 22/09/2010 12:55:56 PM 2609 Views
Ah, like that. - 22/09/2010 01:09:40 PM 2642 Views
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Yes - 15/09/2010 11:12:36 AM 2763 Views
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Kreacher. - 16/09/2010 03:43:57 AM 2607 Views
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Re: Sirius and Sirius' mother. - 17/09/2010 04:32:55 AM 2607 Views
Plot: how's that coming along? *NM* - 15/09/2010 08:13:45 AM 1531 Views
tragically? - 15/09/2010 11:12:10 AM 2689 Views
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Re: tragically? - 15/09/2010 03:47:06 PM 2773 Views
Yes. And the one who will get the fantastic line at the end of the book. *NM* - 15/09/2010 04:08:47 PM 1516 Views
I have forgotten that - 15/09/2010 04:10:57 PM 2659 Views
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Happy to help! - 20/09/2010 05:13:52 AM 2607 Views
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Re: Percy and Rowling's handling of profanity. - 16/09/2010 09:44:48 AM 2769 Views
'tisn't. - 16/09/2010 03:24:05 PM 2668 Views
Re: Percy and Rowling's handling of profanity. - 16/09/2010 09:43:50 AM 2663 Views
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The plot thickens. - 17/09/2010 12:05:57 PM 2587 Views
A few thoughts - 17/09/2010 04:21:25 PM 2696 Views
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Re: A few thoughts - 19/09/2010 09:19:30 AM 2708 Views
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Timing messed up again. - 17/09/2010 07:10:31 PM 2709 Views
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Well... - 17/09/2010 08:18:07 PM 2615 Views
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Re: The plot thickens. - 17/09/2010 06:18:34 PM 2757 Views
Character development. - 17/09/2010 12:06:52 PM 2578 Views
Mrs. Weasley - 17/09/2010 04:23:20 PM 2642 Views
Agree here, but I can understand why she's cracking up a bit. - 17/09/2010 04:46:30 PM 2728 Views
Don't know if you noticed it, but the death of her brothers is actually mentioned here. - 17/09/2010 04:56:01 PM 2529 Views
Yes - 17/09/2010 06:20:34 PM 2662 Views
I don't know how I missed it. - 19/09/2010 02:16:11 AM 2668 Views
I believe we never get her maiden name in the series itself - it's from some family tree or the like - 19/09/2010 04:25:13 PM 2683 Views
Are you sure? - 19/09/2010 05:14:14 PM 2663 Views
No. I could be wrong. But I wouldn't know where to look for it, if so. - 19/09/2010 07:29:18 PM 2656 Views
According to the HP Wiki at Wikia, there should be a more explicit mention of it in book seven. *NM* - 19/09/2010 07:34:10 PM 1497 Views
Maybe that is what I am thinking of - 19/09/2010 07:37:11 PM 2604 Views
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Re: Mrs. Weasley - 18/09/2010 03:14:53 PM 2678 Views
Mr. Weasley - 17/09/2010 04:54:49 PM 2702 Views
He is lovely. - 17/09/2010 06:22:27 PM 2551 Views
His shifts between the two are handled nicely. - 17/09/2010 07:19:38 PM 2711 Views
Re: His shifts between the two are handled nicely. - 17/09/2010 07:21:38 PM 2872 Views
Re: His shifts between the two are handled nicely. - 17/09/2010 08:29:06 PM 2849 Views
Re: His shifts between the two are handled nicely. - 17/09/2010 08:30:12 PM 2424 Views
It's cheesy. *NM* - 17/09/2010 08:41:32 PM 1511 Views
Yeah, kind of cheesy, but I still enjoyed it. Should we table this for the DH reread? *NM* - 20/09/2010 01:21:33 AM 1470 Views
Yeah, let's. *NM* - 20/09/2010 10:37:32 AM 1561 Views
Re: Mr. Weasley - 19/09/2010 05:35:34 AM 2569 Views
Re: Character development. - 17/09/2010 06:17:37 PM 2699 Views
Percy and Prefect Ron. - 18/09/2010 03:27:13 PM 2722 Views
Re: Percy and Prefect Ron. - 18/09/2010 03:35:30 PM 2720 Views
Other things of note. - 17/09/2010 12:07:33 PM 2697 Views
Re: Other things of note. - 17/09/2010 06:13:25 PM 2662 Views
Re: Other things of note. - 18/09/2010 03:11:48 PM 2667 Views
Monday 20 September: chapters 10-12 ~ Back to school *NM* - 13/09/2010 09:26:44 PM 1457 Views
Characters: Luna, Umbridge and the Sorting Hat *NM* - 20/09/2010 08:03:30 AM 1550 Views
Draco, Ginny, Luna, Neville, Harry, Umbridge and McGonnagall - 20/09/2010 03:44:01 PM 2572 Views
I think McGonagall kind of fails there. - 20/09/2010 04:58:01 PM 2595 Views
Re: I think McGonagall kind of fails there. - 20/09/2010 05:05:27 PM 2696 Views
Maybe she doesn't realize all that, but really, how much effort does it take to be clear? - 20/09/2010 05:43:57 PM 2687 Views
Re: Maybe she doesn't realize all that, but really, how much effort does it take to be clear? - 20/09/2010 06:18:35 PM 2759 Views
Oh, I think it is. - 20/09/2010 06:30:33 PM 2639 Views
Re: Oh, I think it is. - 20/09/2010 06:37:09 PM 2666 Views
My head is spinning a bit from this debate. - 21/09/2010 03:01:16 PM 2641 Views
Re: Oh, I think it is. - 22/09/2010 02:59:40 AM 2646 Views
Prefect picking. - 22/09/2010 03:10:04 AM 2646 Views
Re: Draco, Ginny, Luna, Neville, Umbridge - 22/09/2010 03:07:13 AM 2774 Views
Re: Draco, Ginny, Luna, Neville, Umbridge - 22/09/2010 08:59:58 AM 2445 Views
Weasley goodness. - 22/09/2010 03:16:41 AM 2675 Views
Re: Weasley goodness. - 22/09/2010 09:03:52 AM 2776 Views
Re: Weasley goodness. - 23/09/2010 04:32:45 AM 2819 Views
Plot: things you've noticed. *NM* - 20/09/2010 08:04:13 AM 1521 Views
Not much in these chapters - 20/09/2010 03:45:55 PM 2666 Views
Oh, there's more than that. - 20/09/2010 04:43:28 PM 2629 Views
Re: Oh, there's more than that. - 20/09/2010 04:47:53 PM 2723 Views
I remembered now: Barty Crouch Junior. - 20/09/2010 05:08:16 PM 2631 Views
I did not get that from the passage - 20/09/2010 05:19:45 PM 2609 Views
Hmm. - 20/09/2010 05:38:28 PM 2682 Views
Re: Hmm. - 20/09/2010 06:10:03 PM 2712 Views
Because it rather seems like it'd come up if he had. - 20/09/2010 06:21:30 PM 2720 Views
Re: Because it rather seems like it'd come up if he had. - 20/09/2010 06:34:32 PM 2705 Views
You make a good point. - 21/09/2010 03:12:10 PM 2718 Views
Oh yes: Assyria is a wizarding country. - 22/09/2010 09:42:27 AM 2709 Views
Er, that should've gone under anything else. Oh well. *NM* - 22/09/2010 09:46:30 AM 1631 Views
Yes - 22/09/2010 09:50:47 AM 2630 Views
Because that's the only modern meaning of "Assyrian". - 22/09/2010 09:58:03 AM 2756 Views
Re: Because that's the only modern meaning of "Assyrian". - 22/09/2010 09:59:39 AM 2744 Views
Who knows? Don't think we've seen much discussion of religion in the wizarding world. *NM* - 22/09/2010 10:02:30 AM 1524 Views
True - 22/09/2010 12:00:12 PM 2687 Views
On their broomsticks, obviously *NM* - 23/09/2010 02:27:06 PM 1559 Views
In that part of the world I understand they use flying carpets, actually. *NM* - 23/09/2010 03:16:18 PM 1463 Views
Wasn't there a mention of someone trying to smuggle flying carpets into England? - 23/09/2010 06:17:58 PM 2537 Views
I know there was one in book 4 - 23/09/2010 06:43:34 PM 2570 Views
That's right, talking shop with Dad. - 23/09/2010 07:40:42 PM 2606 Views
Themes - 20/09/2010 08:05:17 AM 2547 Views
Bigotry and control - 20/09/2010 03:49:49 PM 2726 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 20/09/2010 08:05:33 AM 1539 Views
Thestrals & Hufflepuff - 20/09/2010 03:50:34 PM 2539 Views
Re: Thestrals & Hufflepuff - 22/09/2010 02:57:03 AM 2725 Views
For some reason... - 22/09/2010 03:24:14 AM 2736 Views
Yes - 22/09/2010 08:55:50 AM 2634 Views
Wednesday 22 September: chapters 13-15 ~ School gets interesting. - 13/09/2010 09:27:09 PM 2726 Views
Character development: how are our three main characters getting along? - 22/09/2010 12:43:53 PM 2547 Views
Some interesting developments, I thought. - 22/09/2010 01:57:42 PM 2682 Views
Re: Some interesting developments, I thought. Edited - 22/09/2010 02:35:20 PM 2637 Views
Dumbledore, this really bugs me - 23/09/2010 03:39:28 AM 2533 Views
Re: Dumbledore, this really bugs me - 23/09/2010 08:37:18 AM 2656 Views
Re: Dumbledore, this really bugs me - 23/09/2010 02:51:13 PM 2619 Views
Plot progression, and continuing themes. - 22/09/2010 12:44:34 PM 2748 Views
Action and reaction - 22/09/2010 12:50:35 PM 2755 Views
Re: Action and reaction - 22/09/2010 02:15:16 PM 2575 Views
Re: Action and reaction - 22/09/2010 02:43:32 PM 2648 Views
Umbridge - 23/09/2010 03:54:48 AM 2733 Views
Re: Umbridge - 23/09/2010 08:38:47 AM 2582 Views
Re: Plot progression, and continuing themes. - 22/09/2010 02:03:27 PM 2695 Views
Re: Plot progression, and continuing themes. - 22/09/2010 02:25:48 PM 2811 Views
Any other comments? - 22/09/2010 12:44:54 PM 2573 Views
Erm. - 23/09/2010 04:48:03 AM 2579 Views
Re: Erm. - 23/09/2010 08:40:19 AM 2688 Views
Not really a distance thing, but... - 23/09/2010 02:58:55 PM 2588 Views
The title of chapter 13. - 27/09/2010 03:58:04 PM 2802 Views
Good point. - 27/09/2010 04:00:56 PM 2674 Views
Friday 24 September: chapters 16-18 ~ Dumbledore's Army - 13/09/2010 09:27:50 PM 2717 Views
Character development: Harry, Hermione, Ron, etc. - 24/09/2010 05:05:43 PM 2718 Views
Ron, Hermione, Cho, Weasley children, Neville, Trelawny, Sirius - 24/09/2010 07:07:28 PM 2739 Views
Le plot. - 24/09/2010 05:06:34 PM 2624 Views
Reaction -- the forming of the DA - 24/09/2010 07:08:45 PM 2777 Views
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Re: Reaction -- the forming of the DA - 27/09/2010 02:30:31 PM 2724 Views
Re: Reaction -- the forming of the DA - 27/09/2010 03:55:50 PM 2654 Views
Re: Reaction -- the forming of the DA - 27/09/2010 03:59:33 PM 2566 Views
Re: Reaction -- the forming of the DA - 27/09/2010 04:11:01 PM 2792 Views
Re: Reaction -- the forming of the DA - 27/09/2010 04:14:39 PM 2717 Views
Anything else? - 24/09/2010 05:07:10 PM 2434 Views
Kittens! - 24/09/2010 07:09:28 PM 2574 Views
Re: Kittens! - 27/09/2010 01:54:26 PM 2736 Views
Re: Kittens! - 27/09/2010 01:57:30 PM 2673 Views
Re: Kittens! - 27/09/2010 02:02:55 PM 2789 Views
Monday 27 September: chapters 19-21 ~ Quidditch, Hagrid and thestrals. - 13/09/2010 09:28:27 PM 2576 Views
Les Characters - 27/09/2010 07:57:17 AM 2579 Views
Ron, Umbridge, McGonagall, Hagrid, Cho, Hermione, Harry - 27/09/2010 03:26:13 PM 2688 Views
Re: Ron, Umbridge, McGonagall, Hagrid, Cho, Hermione, Harry - 27/09/2010 04:57:55 PM 2608 Views
Re: Ron, Umbridge, McGonagall, Hagrid, Cho, Hermione, Harry - 27/09/2010 05:08:10 PM 2526 Views
Re: Various characters you mentioned - 29/09/2010 03:54:42 AM 2670 Views
Re: Various characters you mentioned - 29/09/2010 09:41:16 AM 2703 Views
Plot - are we happy with what's happening? - 27/09/2010 07:58:33 AM 2649 Views
Definitely some things of note! - 27/09/2010 02:43:41 PM 2597 Views
Re: Definitely some things of note! - 27/09/2010 03:36:39 PM 2695 Views
Re: Definitely some things of note! - 27/09/2010 04:03:17 PM 2624 Views
Re: Definitely some things of note! - 27/09/2010 04:07:20 PM 2456 Views
Mirroring - 27/09/2010 03:27:51 PM 2604 Views
Re: Mirroring - this is good. - 30/09/2010 02:43:21 PM 2680 Views
Any other thoughts? - 27/09/2010 07:59:14 AM 2526 Views
Bigotry, the Sorting Hat and Giants - 27/09/2010 03:28:10 PM 2528 Views
Re: Bigotry, the Sorting Hat and Giants - 27/09/2010 05:08:42 PM 2541 Views
Re: Bigotry, the Sorting Hat and Giants - 27/09/2010 05:21:20 PM 2622 Views
Re: Gnomes - 29/09/2010 04:00:20 AM 2493 Views
Re: Gnomes - 29/09/2010 09:43:54 AM 2628 Views
Re: Gnomes - 30/09/2010 03:27:37 AM 2673 Views
Wednesday 29 September: chapters 22-24 - 13/09/2010 09:29:12 PM 2738 Views
Characters and characterisation *NM* - 29/09/2010 04:43:38 PM 1499 Views
High emotions. - 29/09/2010 05:11:07 PM 2696 Views
Re: High emotions. - 29/09/2010 08:21:46 PM 2604 Views
Re: High emotions. - 29/09/2010 09:51:14 PM 2678 Views
Re: High emotions. - 29/09/2010 10:06:43 PM 2593 Views
Re: High emotions. - 29/09/2010 10:28:58 PM 2554 Views
Re: High emotions. - 29/09/2010 11:31:04 PM 2573 Views
Re: High emotions. - 29/09/2010 11:35:52 PM 2606 Views
Re: High emotions. - 29/09/2010 09:18:42 PM 2424 Views
Re: High emotions. - 29/09/2010 10:05:32 PM 2645 Views
Re: High emotions. - 30/09/2010 04:04:31 AM 2603 Views
Themes and progression of themes. *NM* - 29/09/2010 04:44:11 PM 1459 Views
A bit of a respite on that score - 29/09/2010 05:18:46 PM 2607 Views
Plotting and plot continuity *NM* - 29/09/2010 04:44:32 PM 1494 Views
Re: Plotting and plot continuity - 29/09/2010 05:11:43 PM 2873 Views
Re: Plotting and plot continuity - 29/09/2010 09:17:02 PM 2686 Views
Re: Plotting and plot continuity - 29/09/2010 09:58:03 PM 2753 Views
Re: Plotting and plot continuity - 30/09/2010 02:36:25 PM 2743 Views
Other things of note. *NM* - 29/09/2010 04:44:51 PM 1527 Views
A Question - 29/09/2010 05:12:06 PM 2685 Views
Rowling is having fun once more, this time with St. Mungo's. - 29/09/2010 09:19:53 PM 2622 Views
Re: Rowling is having fun once more, this time with St. Mungo's. - 29/09/2010 10:35:51 PM 2475 Views
Re: Rowling is having fun once more, this time with St. Mungo's. - 30/09/2010 03:42:21 AM 2658 Views
The Lockheart encounter is great too. - 30/09/2010 05:21:17 AM 2632 Views
Re: The Lockheart encounter is great too. - 30/09/2010 02:50:18 PM 2699 Views
Friday 1 October: chapters 25-27 - Sorry I'm late. - 13/09/2010 09:29:58 PM 2548 Views
The characters: development, actions, etc. *NM* - 02/10/2010 11:25:09 AM 1568 Views
Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore - 02/10/2010 07:54:05 PM 2736 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore - 03/10/2010 02:19:37 AM 2702 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore - 03/10/2010 10:05:48 AM 2945 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore - 04/10/2010 09:10:47 PM 2667 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore - 04/10/2010 09:18:42 PM 2607 Views
Plot/action: getting exciting? *NM* - 02/10/2010 11:25:48 AM 1530 Views
Beginning of the end - 02/10/2010 07:55:36 PM 2749 Views
Re: Beginning of the end - 05/10/2010 10:45:32 PM 2662 Views
Re: Beginning of the end - 05/10/2010 10:52:28 PM 2695 Views
Re: Beginning of the end - 06/10/2010 01:33:57 AM 2641 Views
Other things. *NM* - 02/10/2010 11:26:06 AM 1463 Views
The way reactions are given, and an observation about occlumency. - 02/10/2010 07:55:48 PM 2708 Views
The least important of your points... - 04/10/2010 08:18:04 PM 2810 Views
Re: The least important of your points... - 04/10/2010 08:20:15 PM 2582 Views
Re: The least important of your points... - 05/10/2010 07:41:32 PM 2747 Views
Monday 4 October: chapters 28-30 - bad memories, dramatic exits, and large brothers. - 13/09/2010 09:32:03 PM 2631 Views
Plotting and themes. - 04/10/2010 06:32:16 PM 2648 Views
family and bigotry - 04/10/2010 07:41:22 PM 2672 Views
Weasley Mayhem. And stuff. - 05/10/2010 02:07:06 AM 2641 Views
Re: Weasley Mayhem. And stuff. - 05/10/2010 09:06:04 AM 2570 Views
Re: family and bigotry - 05/10/2010 11:27:55 PM 2692 Views
Re: family and bigotry - 05/10/2010 11:37:11 PM 2587 Views
Anything else? - 04/10/2010 06:32:43 PM 2658 Views
portaits - 04/10/2010 07:41:49 PM 2464 Views
I'm wondering if Dumbledore is camping out in his office. - 05/10/2010 11:19:03 PM 2707 Views
Re: I'm wondering if Dumbledore is camping out in his office. - 05/10/2010 11:28:37 PM 2732 Views
That would be awesome. - 06/10/2010 02:28:33 AM 2645 Views
Wednesday 6 October: chapters 31-33 - OWLs, fights and other such hijinks. - 13/09/2010 09:32:40 PM 2657 Views
Plot! Theme and Action! - 06/10/2010 08:14:21 PM 2613 Views
The trap is set - 06/10/2010 08:36:03 PM 2596 Views
Re: The trap is set - 06/10/2010 09:37:17 PM 2576 Views
Re: The trap is set - 06/10/2010 09:50:15 PM 2683 Views
Anything else you want to waffle about. - 06/10/2010 08:14:50 PM 2643 Views
exams - 06/10/2010 08:36:35 PM 2616 Views
Friday 8 October: chapters 34-36 - The big fight and the big farewell. - 13/09/2010 09:33:45 PM 2800 Views
Characters: Death Eaters, Order of the Phoenix, and the children. - 08/10/2010 11:19:58 AM 2721 Views
Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin - 08/10/2010 07:52:01 PM 2664 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin - 09/10/2010 01:00:00 AM 2859 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin - 09/10/2010 10:23:24 AM 2523 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin - 10/10/2010 03:40:46 AM 2494 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin - 10/10/2010 10:54:31 AM 2743 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin - 12/10/2010 02:46:40 AM 2783 Views
First big appearance for Bellatrix. - 09/10/2010 01:11:54 AM 2738 Views
Re: First big appearance for Bellatrix. - 09/10/2010 10:13:26 AM 2677 Views
Action. And more action. - 08/10/2010 11:20:49 AM 2627 Views
The tragedy - 08/10/2010 07:51:29 PM 2730 Views
Re: The tragedy - 09/10/2010 12:42:53 AM 2520 Views
Re: The tragedy - 09/10/2010 12:49:31 AM 2743 Views
I'm wondering what would have happened... - 09/10/2010 01:14:58 AM 2446 Views
Re: I'm wondering what would have happened... - 09/10/2010 10:16:25 AM 2600 Views
Re: I'm wondering what would have happened... - 10/10/2010 03:22:18 AM 2809 Views
Book 7 spoilers ( I know they are implied, but I'd feel bad if I didn't warn) - 11/10/2010 12:51:06 AM 2647 Views
Re: Book 7 spoilers ( I know they are implied, but I'd feel bad if I didn't warn) - 12/10/2010 02:48:53 AM 2567 Views
Other things. - 08/10/2010 11:21:12 AM 2587 Views
Re: Other things. - 08/10/2010 07:52:45 PM 2647 Views
Well. - 10/10/2010 03:26:01 AM 2581 Views
Monday 11 October: chapters 37-38 ~ The end of innocence? - 13/09/2010 09:35:14 PM 2712 Views
How are our characters left? - 11/10/2010 05:25:39 PM 2721 Views
Plot and theme: - 11/10/2010 05:26:37 PM 2601 Views
Prophecy, choice, house elves and knowledge. - 11/10/2010 11:50:46 PM 2825 Views
Any other thoughts? - 11/10/2010 05:27:17 PM 2537 Views
One minor and one major disappointment. - 11/10/2010 11:51:08 PM 2829 Views
Re: One minor and one major disappointment. - 12/10/2010 02:53:28 AM 2817 Views
General comments. - 13/09/2010 09:36:13 PM 2734 Views
The first time I read this book I didn't like it much. - 14/09/2010 04:23:43 AM 2643 Views
It was one of my favourite books from the get-go. - 14/09/2010 09:08:03 AM 2777 Views
The structure of this book is different from the earlier ones - 15/09/2010 09:55:26 AM 2843 Views
What do we think of Rowling's writing skills in this book? - 22/09/2010 12:54:14 PM 2650 Views
Much improved - 22/09/2010 03:08:51 PM 2583 Views
How do you feel about the book as a whole? - 11/10/2010 05:28:23 PM 2558 Views
Re: How do you feel about the book as a whole? - 12/10/2010 03:00:01 AM 2768 Views
Suggestions for the re-read. - 13/09/2010 09:36:56 PM 2640 Views
Your links don't work - 14/09/2010 10:37:32 AM 2589 Views
Fixed. *NM* - 14/09/2010 10:46:08 AM 1596 Views
I just copied old ones. - 14/09/2010 06:32:50 PM 2634 Views
Do we need to have another break? - 27/09/2010 08:00:04 AM 2670 Views
Before the next book, you mean? - 27/09/2010 01:05:14 PM 2540 Views
But now I want to keep reading them. </whine> - 29/09/2010 04:02:57 AM 2544 Views
We'll start Book 6 on Monday 18 October. - 11/10/2010 05:29:21 PM 2732 Views

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