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Re: The twins, the teachers, Cho, Snape, James Sirius, Wormtail, Lupin, Lily, Harry and McGonagall. Legolas Send a noteboard - 05/10/2010 11:09:16 PM
Twins: I think the moment they decided that they would no longer care about getting into trouble is the moment I realised this would be one of my favourite books of the series. I love the havoc they wreak. And how they set the stage for the teachers' banding together. And then when they finally decide to leave … the conversation they hold between themselves. It is adorable. And then the final moment of advertisement (and the excellent discount idea) -- and Peeves' salute. It all has me giggling like a madwoman. It makes me happy. It is the perfect counterpoint to the horror and Evil that is Umbridge. Once again, breaking the rules entirely is the only way out of her world.

It is indeed one of the most memorable scenes of the entire series.
Cho: I feel it is saying something that when Cho and Harry argue, I am on Harry's side. She really is quite astonishingly dim and irrational at times. I am glad Harry switches her in for a more sensible girl.

I disagree. As I've said before - and you agreed at the time - Cho seems like a cool girl who gets the short end of the stick from Rowling because of that awkward fling with Harry. All of her reactions make ample sense from her PoV, though - it's just the circumstances are so difficult that it was never really going to work.
Snape: Harry interprets him as the weak victim of strong bullies in the memory. I think that is a mistake. And not just because of the ``Harry is always wrong'' rule. First of all, we are given this out of context. It is one memory, which does not provide us with the story of earlier encounters. I feel fairly certain that there is a varied pattern there. I don't think they are picking on him because he is weak; quite the contrary, I think they are doing what the twins did to Dudley in an earlier book (although as I see it in a less problematic way): they are picking on him for being part of a group which picks on the weak -- for being associated with the dark arts. The particular comments may not be related to that, but they are the superstructure, not the motivation.

I think you're still biased by your fan-fic. :P Bullying is bullying, whatever excuses they offer for them. And as Harry notes, they start to bully him because they feel bored, not for any other reason. Of course Lupin and Sirius are right that it doesn't mean they are bad people, and it certainly doesn't mean Snape is an innocent victim, but it is what it is, and it isn't pretty, alright.
The fact that Snape attacks James when his back is turned backs this up and serves as direct provocation for the more humiliating retaliation. Sirius' impedimenta spell merely held him down; Snape draws blood (to be fair, he is probably also spurred on by the proximity of Lily). His reaction to Lily's help (calling her a mudblood) is also somewhat explained by his embarrassment at this point, but it still speaks volumes about what he considers acceptable.

I'm not really happy with that part of the scene, in the light of the later revelations. Snape's calling her a mudblood strains credulity as it is, but it's Lily's reaction that is the most baffling. Is she really that much of a sphinx that she doesn't show the slightest sign of feeling hurt other than blinking, and merely insults him right back - borrowing James' insult, too?
James: He is a little full of himself, and clearly approaching Lily in entirely the wrong way, but I don't think his comment to Lily that his motivation for mistreating Snape is merely ``because he exists'' is something to be taken at face value. I stick to my reading as I explained it above. James is arrogant, but he is not bad.

What is "bad"? Most bullies aren't "bad" in the sense you seem to mean it, and bully more out of boredom or to impress their friends than out of any real malice or cruelty. James is as "bad" as, say, Draco Malfoy. Fortunately, they both grow up.
His comment that he wishes it were the full moon is more problematic, in a way, considering how horrible that is for Lupin. But it serves to establish him even more as someone who lives for daring adventures and danger. Possibly because everything is too easy -- he is not the least worried about his exams.

Yeah. That attitude must've made his time in Azkaban all the harsher in contrast.
Wormtail: He is showing all the traits we have come to expect, being weak and sycophantic. It is perhaps a little too exaggerated -- it makes it less likely that James would trust his life to him.

Agreed.
Lily: She is cool. I like both her standing up for Snape and her ultimate rejection of him.

As I said above, I find her reaction strange. I suppose we never really see enough of her to know her character, know whether she is indeed capable of perfectly concealing the hurt feelings she must have. Or perhaps it's just plot convenience here - if she had displayed a more logical reaction in the light of the later revelations, those revelations wouldn't have been as surprising.
Harry: I like how he takes Snape's side in the memory. Especially as I don't. It is a side to his character that … I suppose it is what makes him the hero -- especially in Rowling's universe. It is interesting that he thinks that it would be acceptable to do it to Malfoy.

I think it has a lot to do with how the Marauders are still seeing everything as a lark and have had little reason to take things seriously, whereas Snape, like Harry, is more mature that way, forced by the circumstances. Most children do indeed do stupid things at fifteen that they are later ashamed of; Harry has been forced to be more mature, and has a hard time understanding such immaturity.
I am a little annoyed that he does not think of the mirror when he is so desperate to talk to Sirius. Yes, I know I said it was part of a beautifully structured plot, but on the level of character it is a little unsatisfying.

He doesn't know about the mirror. The only thing he knows is Sirius' vague description of it, but he's immediately decided not to use it and so quite naturally doesn't remember it when thinking of ways to contact Sirius.
His whole expedition really is problematic. As Hermione points out, Dumbledore's sacrifice would be in vain if he got caught. And he shows that he is aware that it would reflect very badly on McGonagall. Not to mention that this is not vital stuff. The only possible upshot will be to ease his mind. It is on par with running around risking his life in book 3 (before we knew Sirius was a good guy).

Agreed. I don't remember now whether his getting caught the next time has to do with having left traces this time, but it might be, so that makes it even worse.
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Monday 13 September: chapters 1-3 - Dementors, owls and a daring rescue. *NM* - 13/09/2010 09:18:29 PM 1331 Views
New characters and characters old. - 13/09/2010 09:20:39 PM 2275 Views
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If you are having trouble with quotes, you can set it up so it always does the paragraphs thing. - 14/09/2010 05:17:28 PM 2311 Views
I know *NM* - 14/09/2010 05:19:49 PM 1253 Views
It wasn't you I was talking to. *NM* - 14/09/2010 05:22:52 PM 1275 Views
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To subtly point out that if you were going to make that remark, you could also have given the tip. - 14/09/2010 06:15:55 PM 2264 Views
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Thanks, that was driving me nuts and I had to actually get back to work... - 14/09/2010 06:40:19 PM 2186 Views
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If I lurk effectively, you won't even see me. - 16/09/2010 06:54:13 PM 2267 Views
You just made my life so much easier! - 15/09/2010 12:06:29 AM 2259 Views
You were just showing off with your reply weren't you? Segmenting the quotes like that. - 14/09/2010 06:53:03 PM 2312 Views
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A question around that. - 16/09/2010 07:02:11 PM 2325 Views
Re: A question around that. - 16/09/2010 07:04:37 PM 2239 Views
After the end of OotP, it's widely known he's back. - 16/09/2010 07:12:19 PM 2400 Views
I think I remember now - 16/09/2010 07:43:42 PM 2149 Views
Also - 14/09/2010 10:33:06 AM 2268 Views
I agree with you. - 19/09/2010 06:26:48 PM 2347 Views
Try to remember Harry is 15 years old - 14/09/2010 01:39:20 AM 2177 Views
I know. - 14/09/2010 09:02:08 AM 2203 Views
Re: New characters and characters old. - 14/09/2010 03:26:27 AM 2364 Views
Re: New characters and characters old. - 14/09/2010 09:05:06 AM 2506 Views
Re: New characters and characters old. - 14/09/2010 08:08:34 AM 2250 Views
Re: New characters and characters old. - 14/09/2010 09:05:35 AM 2184 Views
Actually - 14/09/2010 02:41:22 PM 2153 Views
You're right of course. - 14/09/2010 11:58:06 PM 2244 Views
Harry's rage. - 14/09/2010 02:53:13 PM 2233 Views
Re: Harry's rage. - 14/09/2010 03:07:28 PM 2262 Views
Pent up over the other installments. - 14/09/2010 03:30:00 PM 2109 Views
The Dursleys. - 15/09/2010 01:23:18 AM 2230 Views
Re: The Dursleys. - 15/09/2010 03:51:06 PM 2306 Views
Re: The Dursleys. - 19/09/2010 06:31:11 PM 2276 Views
Plotplotplot (plot makes a funny noise when you say it like that). - 13/09/2010 09:22:27 PM 2310 Views
You stole my title! - 13/09/2010 11:54:06 PM 2287 Views
So I did. - 19/09/2010 06:35:10 PM 2224 Views
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Other stuff. - 13/09/2010 09:22:53 PM 2267 Views
two questions. - 13/09/2010 11:49:28 PM 2151 Views
Answers - 14/09/2010 03:01:58 AM 2223 Views
Re: Answers - 14/09/2010 08:13:17 AM 2253 Views
Agreed. - 14/09/2010 10:17:57 AM 2178 Views
More of Rowling's number problems? *NM* - 19/09/2010 06:36:52 PM 1161 Views
Also agreed. - 15/09/2010 01:16:28 AM 2303 Views
Those were totally the two questions I was going to ask. - 15/09/2010 01:13:29 AM 2264 Views
Surprisingly many hilarious little things for a book that's gonna be as dark as this one. - 14/09/2010 10:11:54 AM 2110 Views
That is why I love it so much. - 14/09/2010 10:14:01 AM 2857 Views
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Re: That is why I love it so much. - 14/09/2010 10:27:09 AM 2073 Views
Re: That is why I love it so much. - 15/09/2010 03:09:52 AM 2314 Views
Re: That is why I love it so much. - 15/09/2010 08:31:04 AM 2275 Views
Re: That is why I love it so much. - 19/09/2010 06:40:12 PM 2129 Views
Re: That is why I love it so much. - 19/09/2010 06:43:25 PM 1977 Views
He's incredibly blind, our Harry. - 19/09/2010 06:38:29 PM 2152 Views
I don't find it annoying, really. - 19/09/2010 07:27:11 PM 2014 Views
I dislike it intensely. - 22/09/2010 12:55:56 PM 2162 Views
Ah, like that. - 22/09/2010 01:09:40 PM 2171 Views
Wednesday 15 September: chapters 4-6 *NM* - 13/09/2010 09:25:46 PM 1204 Views
Characters: still interesting? *NM* - 15/09/2010 08:13:26 AM 1221 Views
Yes - 15/09/2010 11:12:36 AM 2275 Views
You write your posts out in Word and then copypaste them? Why? - 15/09/2010 11:43:29 AM 2155 Views
No. I don't even have Word. - 15/09/2010 11:52:02 AM 2089 Views
Or some other program, whatever. - 15/09/2010 12:02:55 PM 2059 Views
Re: Or some other program, whatever. - 15/09/2010 12:07:02 PM 2375 Views
Kreacher. - 16/09/2010 03:43:57 AM 2149 Views
Re: Yes - 16/09/2010 04:17:39 AM 2287 Views
Re: Yes - 16/09/2010 09:36:22 AM 2246 Views
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Re: Yes - 17/09/2010 06:00:26 AM 2107 Views
Re: Yes - 17/09/2010 09:01:28 AM 2204 Views
Sirius and Sirius' mother. - 16/09/2010 04:25:36 AM 2239 Views
Re: Sirius and Sirius' mother. - 16/09/2010 09:41:44 AM 2218 Views
Re: Sirius and Sirius' mother. - 17/09/2010 04:32:55 AM 2142 Views
Plot: how's that coming along? *NM* - 15/09/2010 08:13:45 AM 1211 Views
tragically? - 15/09/2010 11:12:10 AM 2211 Views
Re: tragically? - 15/09/2010 03:42:29 PM 2282 Views
Re: tragically? - 15/09/2010 03:47:06 PM 2321 Views
Yes. And the one who will get the fantastic line at the end of the book. *NM* - 15/09/2010 04:08:47 PM 1198 Views
I have forgotten that - 15/09/2010 04:10:57 PM 2192 Views
Well, it may not be that fantastic, but it's pretty amusing. - 15/09/2010 04:12:55 PM 2157 Views
Ah, yes - 15/09/2010 04:14:15 PM 2145 Views
Oh I thought you were talking about the one where he tells the Minister - 15/09/2010 10:03:57 PM 2237 Views
Re: tragically? - 16/09/2010 04:08:03 AM 2282 Views
Re: tragically? - 16/09/2010 04:32:57 AM 2190 Views
Thanks. - 17/09/2010 04:34:30 AM 2159 Views
Happy to help! - 20/09/2010 05:13:52 AM 2157 Views
Re: tragically? - 16/09/2010 09:29:32 AM 2311 Views
Other things: ? *NM* - 15/09/2010 08:14:56 AM 1203 Views
Ridiculing asides - 15/09/2010 11:12:43 AM 2293 Views
Black's House of Horrors - 15/09/2010 03:44:18 PM 2151 Views
Percy and Rowling's handling of profanity. - 16/09/2010 03:35:05 AM 2315 Views
Re: Percy and Rowling's handling of profanity. - 16/09/2010 03:48:50 AM 2213 Views
Re: Percy and Rowling's handling of profanity. - 16/09/2010 04:02:04 AM 2196 Views
Re: Percy and Rowling's handling of profanity. - 16/09/2010 09:44:48 AM 2295 Views
'tisn't. - 16/09/2010 03:24:05 PM 2190 Views
Re: Percy and Rowling's handling of profanity. - 16/09/2010 09:43:50 AM 2190 Views
Friday 17 September: The Ministry of Magic, Harry's Hearing, and that thing with Mrs Weasley - 13/09/2010 09:26:16 PM 2251 Views
The plot thickens. - 17/09/2010 12:05:57 PM 2106 Views
A few thoughts - 17/09/2010 04:21:25 PM 2253 Views
Re: A few thoughts - 17/09/2010 05:10:24 PM 2119 Views
Re: A few thoughts - 17/09/2010 06:36:37 PM 2268 Views
Re: A few thoughts - 19/09/2010 05:51:24 AM 2222 Views
Re: A few thoughts - 19/09/2010 09:19:30 AM 2247 Views
Re: A few thoughts - 19/09/2010 10:20:32 PM 2269 Views
Lots of things happening in here that come back up in future books - 17/09/2010 04:41:02 PM 2141 Views
Re: Lots of things happening in here that comes back up in future books - 17/09/2010 06:31:44 PM 2130 Views
Timing messed up again. - 17/09/2010 07:10:31 PM 2257 Views
Re: Timing messed up again. - 17/09/2010 07:13:41 PM 2267 Views
Well... - 17/09/2010 08:18:07 PM 2147 Views
Re: Well... - 19/09/2010 02:14:01 AM 2209 Views
It's like those old chip commercials. It's hard to just read one. - 20/09/2010 01:13:20 AM 2215 Views
Re: The plot thickens. - 17/09/2010 06:18:34 PM 2307 Views
Character development. - 17/09/2010 12:06:52 PM 2132 Views
Mrs. Weasley - 17/09/2010 04:23:20 PM 2192 Views
Agree here, but I can understand why she's cracking up a bit. - 17/09/2010 04:46:30 PM 2275 Views
Don't know if you noticed it, but the death of her brothers is actually mentioned here. - 17/09/2010 04:56:01 PM 2068 Views
Yes - 17/09/2010 06:20:34 PM 2202 Views
I don't know how I missed it. - 19/09/2010 02:16:11 AM 2196 Views
I believe we never get her maiden name in the series itself - it's from some family tree or the like - 19/09/2010 04:25:13 PM 2192 Views
Are you sure? - 19/09/2010 05:14:14 PM 2183 Views
No. I could be wrong. But I wouldn't know where to look for it, if so. - 19/09/2010 07:29:18 PM 2201 Views
According to the HP Wiki at Wikia, there should be a more explicit mention of it in book seven. *NM* - 19/09/2010 07:34:10 PM 1203 Views
Maybe that is what I am thinking of - 19/09/2010 07:37:11 PM 2118 Views
Re: Maybe that is what I am thinking of - 20/09/2010 05:06:33 AM 2074 Views
Re: Mrs. Weasley - 18/09/2010 03:14:53 PM 2222 Views
Mr. Weasley - 17/09/2010 04:54:49 PM 2250 Views
He is lovely. - 17/09/2010 06:22:27 PM 2094 Views
His shifts between the two are handled nicely. - 17/09/2010 07:19:38 PM 2256 Views
Re: His shifts between the two are handled nicely. - 17/09/2010 07:21:38 PM 2409 Views
Re: His shifts between the two are handled nicely. - 17/09/2010 08:29:06 PM 2377 Views
Re: His shifts between the two are handled nicely. - 17/09/2010 08:30:12 PM 1969 Views
It's cheesy. *NM* - 17/09/2010 08:41:32 PM 1197 Views
Yeah, kind of cheesy, but I still enjoyed it. Should we table this for the DH reread? *NM* - 20/09/2010 01:21:33 AM 1149 Views
Yeah, let's. *NM* - 20/09/2010 10:37:32 AM 1244 Views
Re: Mr. Weasley - 19/09/2010 05:35:34 AM 2121 Views
Re: Character development. - 17/09/2010 06:17:37 PM 2252 Views
Percy and Prefect Ron. - 18/09/2010 03:27:13 PM 2231 Views
Re: Percy and Prefect Ron. - 18/09/2010 03:35:30 PM 2260 Views
Other things of note. - 17/09/2010 12:07:33 PM 2207 Views
Re: Other things of note. - 17/09/2010 06:13:25 PM 2208 Views
Re: Other things of note. - 18/09/2010 03:11:48 PM 2222 Views
Monday 20 September: chapters 10-12 ~ Back to school *NM* - 13/09/2010 09:26:44 PM 1138 Views
Characters: Luna, Umbridge and the Sorting Hat *NM* - 20/09/2010 08:03:30 AM 1233 Views
Draco, Ginny, Luna, Neville, Harry, Umbridge and McGonnagall - 20/09/2010 03:44:01 PM 2091 Views
I think McGonagall kind of fails there. - 20/09/2010 04:58:01 PM 2119 Views
Re: I think McGonagall kind of fails there. - 20/09/2010 05:05:27 PM 2204 Views
Maybe she doesn't realize all that, but really, how much effort does it take to be clear? - 20/09/2010 05:43:57 PM 2224 Views
Re: Maybe she doesn't realize all that, but really, how much effort does it take to be clear? - 20/09/2010 06:18:35 PM 2298 Views
Oh, I think it is. - 20/09/2010 06:30:33 PM 2133 Views
Re: Oh, I think it is. - 20/09/2010 06:37:09 PM 2192 Views
My head is spinning a bit from this debate. - 21/09/2010 03:01:16 PM 2206 Views
Re: Oh, I think it is. - 22/09/2010 02:59:40 AM 2185 Views
Prefect picking. - 22/09/2010 03:10:04 AM 2196 Views
Re: Draco, Ginny, Luna, Neville, Umbridge - 22/09/2010 03:07:13 AM 2297 Views
Re: Draco, Ginny, Luna, Neville, Umbridge - 22/09/2010 08:59:58 AM 2005 Views
Weasley goodness. - 22/09/2010 03:16:41 AM 2172 Views
Re: Weasley goodness. - 22/09/2010 09:03:52 AM 2310 Views
Re: Weasley goodness. - 23/09/2010 04:32:45 AM 2342 Views
Plot: things you've noticed. *NM* - 20/09/2010 08:04:13 AM 1206 Views
Not much in these chapters - 20/09/2010 03:45:55 PM 2234 Views
Oh, there's more than that. - 20/09/2010 04:43:28 PM 2181 Views
Re: Oh, there's more than that. - 20/09/2010 04:47:53 PM 2276 Views
I remembered now: Barty Crouch Junior. - 20/09/2010 05:08:16 PM 2170 Views
I did not get that from the passage - 20/09/2010 05:19:45 PM 2154 Views
Hmm. - 20/09/2010 05:38:28 PM 2210 Views
Re: Hmm. - 20/09/2010 06:10:03 PM 2238 Views
Because it rather seems like it'd come up if he had. - 20/09/2010 06:21:30 PM 2248 Views
Re: Because it rather seems like it'd come up if he had. - 20/09/2010 06:34:32 PM 2239 Views
You make a good point. - 21/09/2010 03:12:10 PM 2239 Views
Oh yes: Assyria is a wizarding country. - 22/09/2010 09:42:27 AM 2217 Views
Er, that should've gone under anything else. Oh well. *NM* - 22/09/2010 09:46:30 AM 1324 Views
Yes - 22/09/2010 09:50:47 AM 2155 Views
Because that's the only modern meaning of "Assyrian". - 22/09/2010 09:58:03 AM 2314 Views
Re: Because that's the only modern meaning of "Assyrian". - 22/09/2010 09:59:39 AM 2292 Views
Who knows? Don't think we've seen much discussion of religion in the wizarding world. *NM* - 22/09/2010 10:02:30 AM 1211 Views
True - 22/09/2010 12:00:12 PM 2221 Views
On their broomsticks, obviously *NM* - 23/09/2010 02:27:06 PM 1243 Views
In that part of the world I understand they use flying carpets, actually. *NM* - 23/09/2010 03:16:18 PM 1153 Views
Wasn't there a mention of someone trying to smuggle flying carpets into England? - 23/09/2010 06:17:58 PM 2074 Views
I know there was one in book 4 - 23/09/2010 06:43:34 PM 2106 Views
That's right, talking shop with Dad. - 23/09/2010 07:40:42 PM 2095 Views
Themes - 20/09/2010 08:05:17 AM 2082 Views
Bigotry and control - 20/09/2010 03:49:49 PM 2257 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 20/09/2010 08:05:33 AM 1224 Views
Thestrals & Hufflepuff - 20/09/2010 03:50:34 PM 2107 Views
Re: Thestrals & Hufflepuff - 22/09/2010 02:57:03 AM 2270 Views
For some reason... - 22/09/2010 03:24:14 AM 2277 Views
Yes - 22/09/2010 08:55:50 AM 2169 Views
Wednesday 22 September: chapters 13-15 ~ School gets interesting. - 13/09/2010 09:27:09 PM 2282 Views
Character development: how are our three main characters getting along? - 22/09/2010 12:43:53 PM 2070 Views
Some interesting developments, I thought. - 22/09/2010 01:57:42 PM 2243 Views
Re: Some interesting developments, I thought. Edited - 22/09/2010 02:35:20 PM 2152 Views
Dumbledore, this really bugs me - 23/09/2010 03:39:28 AM 2084 Views
Re: Dumbledore, this really bugs me - 23/09/2010 08:37:18 AM 2182 Views
Re: Dumbledore, this really bugs me - 23/09/2010 02:51:13 PM 2137 Views
Plot progression, and continuing themes. - 22/09/2010 12:44:34 PM 2307 Views
Action and reaction - 22/09/2010 12:50:35 PM 2281 Views
Re: Action and reaction - 22/09/2010 02:15:16 PM 2111 Views
Re: Action and reaction - 22/09/2010 02:43:32 PM 2178 Views
Umbridge - 23/09/2010 03:54:48 AM 2292 Views
Re: Umbridge - 23/09/2010 08:38:47 AM 2104 Views
Re: Plot progression, and continuing themes. - 22/09/2010 02:03:27 PM 2243 Views
Re: Plot progression, and continuing themes. - 22/09/2010 02:25:48 PM 2357 Views
Any other comments? - 22/09/2010 12:44:54 PM 2122 Views
Erm. - 23/09/2010 04:48:03 AM 2129 Views
Re: Erm. - 23/09/2010 08:40:19 AM 2220 Views
Not really a distance thing, but... - 23/09/2010 02:58:55 PM 2147 Views
The title of chapter 13. - 27/09/2010 03:58:04 PM 2306 Views
Good point. - 27/09/2010 04:00:56 PM 2226 Views
Friday 24 September: chapters 16-18 ~ Dumbledore's Army - 13/09/2010 09:27:50 PM 2245 Views
Character development: Harry, Hermione, Ron, etc. - 24/09/2010 05:05:43 PM 2256 Views
Ron, Hermione, Cho, Weasley children, Neville, Trelawny, Sirius - 24/09/2010 07:07:28 PM 2276 Views
Le plot. - 24/09/2010 05:06:34 PM 2142 Views
Reaction -- the forming of the DA - 24/09/2010 07:08:45 PM 2350 Views
Re: Reaction -- the forming of the DA - 27/09/2010 02:16:53 PM 2260 Views
Re: Reaction -- the forming of the DA - 27/09/2010 02:30:31 PM 2251 Views
Re: Reaction -- the forming of the DA - 27/09/2010 03:55:50 PM 2163 Views
Re: Reaction -- the forming of the DA - 27/09/2010 03:59:33 PM 2094 Views
Re: Reaction -- the forming of the DA - 27/09/2010 04:11:01 PM 2351 Views
Re: Reaction -- the forming of the DA - 27/09/2010 04:14:39 PM 2247 Views
Anything else? - 24/09/2010 05:07:10 PM 1965 Views
Kittens! - 24/09/2010 07:09:28 PM 2091 Views
Re: Kittens! - 27/09/2010 01:54:26 PM 2247 Views
Re: Kittens! - 27/09/2010 01:57:30 PM 2242 Views
Re: Kittens! - 27/09/2010 02:02:55 PM 2326 Views
Monday 27 September: chapters 19-21 ~ Quidditch, Hagrid and thestrals. - 13/09/2010 09:28:27 PM 2116 Views
Les Characters - 27/09/2010 07:57:17 AM 2132 Views
Ron, Umbridge, McGonagall, Hagrid, Cho, Hermione, Harry - 27/09/2010 03:26:13 PM 2221 Views
Re: Ron, Umbridge, McGonagall, Hagrid, Cho, Hermione, Harry - 27/09/2010 04:57:55 PM 2203 Views
Re: Ron, Umbridge, McGonagall, Hagrid, Cho, Hermione, Harry - 27/09/2010 05:08:10 PM 2084 Views
Re: Various characters you mentioned - 29/09/2010 03:54:42 AM 2207 Views
Re: Various characters you mentioned - 29/09/2010 09:41:16 AM 2252 Views
Plot - are we happy with what's happening? - 27/09/2010 07:58:33 AM 2176 Views
Definitely some things of note! - 27/09/2010 02:43:41 PM 2146 Views
Re: Definitely some things of note! - 27/09/2010 03:36:39 PM 2227 Views
Re: Definitely some things of note! - 27/09/2010 04:03:17 PM 2173 Views
Re: Definitely some things of note! - 27/09/2010 04:07:20 PM 1999 Views
Mirroring - 27/09/2010 03:27:51 PM 2158 Views
Re: Mirroring - this is good. - 30/09/2010 02:43:21 PM 2216 Views
Any other thoughts? - 27/09/2010 07:59:14 AM 2066 Views
Bigotry, the Sorting Hat and Giants - 27/09/2010 03:28:10 PM 2043 Views
Re: Bigotry, the Sorting Hat and Giants - 27/09/2010 05:08:42 PM 2042 Views
Re: Bigotry, the Sorting Hat and Giants - 27/09/2010 05:21:20 PM 2127 Views
Re: Gnomes - 29/09/2010 04:00:20 AM 2028 Views
Re: Gnomes - 29/09/2010 09:43:54 AM 2168 Views
Re: Gnomes - 30/09/2010 03:27:37 AM 2205 Views
Wednesday 29 September: chapters 22-24 - 13/09/2010 09:29:12 PM 2252 Views
Characters and characterisation *NM* - 29/09/2010 04:43:38 PM 1193 Views
High emotions. - 29/09/2010 05:11:07 PM 2206 Views
Re: High emotions. - 29/09/2010 08:21:46 PM 2157 Views
Re: High emotions. - 29/09/2010 09:51:14 PM 2208 Views
Re: High emotions. - 29/09/2010 10:06:43 PM 2133 Views
Re: High emotions. - 29/09/2010 10:28:58 PM 2099 Views
Re: High emotions. - 29/09/2010 11:31:04 PM 2122 Views
Re: High emotions. - 29/09/2010 11:35:52 PM 2154 Views
Re: High emotions. - 29/09/2010 09:18:42 PM 1947 Views
Re: High emotions. - 29/09/2010 10:05:32 PM 2164 Views
Re: High emotions. - 30/09/2010 04:04:31 AM 2142 Views
Themes and progression of themes. *NM* - 29/09/2010 04:44:11 PM 1142 Views
A bit of a respite on that score - 29/09/2010 05:18:46 PM 2151 Views
Plotting and plot continuity *NM* - 29/09/2010 04:44:32 PM 1186 Views
Re: Plotting and plot continuity - 29/09/2010 05:11:43 PM 2399 Views
Re: Plotting and plot continuity - 29/09/2010 09:17:02 PM 2233 Views
Re: Plotting and plot continuity - 29/09/2010 09:58:03 PM 2280 Views
Re: Plotting and plot continuity - 30/09/2010 02:36:25 PM 2263 Views
Other things of note. *NM* - 29/09/2010 04:44:51 PM 1207 Views
A Question - 29/09/2010 05:12:06 PM 2187 Views
Rowling is having fun once more, this time with St. Mungo's. - 29/09/2010 09:19:53 PM 2184 Views
Re: Rowling is having fun once more, this time with St. Mungo's. - 29/09/2010 10:35:51 PM 2010 Views
Re: Rowling is having fun once more, this time with St. Mungo's. - 30/09/2010 03:42:21 AM 2183 Views
The Lockheart encounter is great too. - 30/09/2010 05:21:17 AM 2177 Views
Re: The Lockheart encounter is great too. - 30/09/2010 02:50:18 PM 2215 Views
Friday 1 October: chapters 25-27 - Sorry I'm late. - 13/09/2010 09:29:58 PM 2101 Views
Plot/action: getting exciting? *NM* - 02/10/2010 11:25:48 AM 1219 Views
Beginning of the end - 02/10/2010 07:55:36 PM 2289 Views
Re: Beginning of the end - 05/10/2010 10:45:32 PM 2183 Views
Re: Beginning of the end - 05/10/2010 10:52:28 PM 2238 Views
Re: Beginning of the end - 06/10/2010 01:33:57 AM 2152 Views
Other things. *NM* - 02/10/2010 11:26:06 AM 1133 Views
The way reactions are given, and an observation about occlumency. - 02/10/2010 07:55:48 PM 2262 Views
The least important of your points... - 04/10/2010 08:18:04 PM 2368 Views
Re: The least important of your points... - 04/10/2010 08:20:15 PM 2141 Views
Re: The least important of your points... - 05/10/2010 07:41:32 PM 2289 Views
Monday 4 October: chapters 28-30 - bad memories, dramatic exits, and large brothers. - 13/09/2010 09:32:03 PM 2185 Views
Characters: James, Sirius, Lily, Snape, Umbridge, Fred, George, Hagrid, Grawp - 04/10/2010 06:31:44 PM 2259 Views
The twins, the teachers, Cho, Snape, James Sirius, Wormtail, Lupin, Lily, Harry and McGonagall. - 04/10/2010 07:40:26 PM 2163 Views
Re: The twins, the teachers, Cho, Snape, James Sirius, Wormtail, Lupin, Lily, Harry and McGonagall. - 05/10/2010 11:09:16 PM 2202 Views
Plotting and themes. - 04/10/2010 06:32:16 PM 2175 Views
family and bigotry - 04/10/2010 07:41:22 PM 2208 Views
Weasley Mayhem. And stuff. - 05/10/2010 02:07:06 AM 2187 Views
Re: Weasley Mayhem. And stuff. - 05/10/2010 09:06:04 AM 2082 Views
Re: family and bigotry - 05/10/2010 11:27:55 PM 2208 Views
Re: family and bigotry - 05/10/2010 11:37:11 PM 2128 Views
Anything else? - 04/10/2010 06:32:43 PM 2207 Views
portaits - 04/10/2010 07:41:49 PM 2000 Views
I'm wondering if Dumbledore is camping out in his office. - 05/10/2010 11:19:03 PM 2254 Views
Re: I'm wondering if Dumbledore is camping out in his office. - 05/10/2010 11:28:37 PM 2273 Views
That would be awesome. - 06/10/2010 02:28:33 AM 2174 Views
Wednesday 6 October: chapters 31-33 - OWLs, fights and other such hijinks. - 13/09/2010 09:32:40 PM 2198 Views
Plot! Theme and Action! - 06/10/2010 08:14:21 PM 2131 Views
The trap is set - 06/10/2010 08:36:03 PM 2146 Views
Re: The trap is set - 06/10/2010 09:37:17 PM 2126 Views
Re: The trap is set - 06/10/2010 09:50:15 PM 2221 Views
Anything else you want to waffle about. - 06/10/2010 08:14:50 PM 2178 Views
exams - 06/10/2010 08:36:35 PM 2137 Views
Friday 8 October: chapters 34-36 - The big fight and the big farewell. - 13/09/2010 09:33:45 PM 2322 Views
Characters: Death Eaters, Order of the Phoenix, and the children. - 08/10/2010 11:19:58 AM 2256 Views
Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin - 08/10/2010 07:52:01 PM 2175 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin - 09/10/2010 01:00:00 AM 2371 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin - 09/10/2010 10:23:24 AM 2054 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin - 10/10/2010 03:40:46 AM 2033 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin - 10/10/2010 10:54:31 AM 2252 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin - 12/10/2010 02:46:40 AM 2310 Views
First big appearance for Bellatrix. - 09/10/2010 01:11:54 AM 2266 Views
Re: First big appearance for Bellatrix. - 09/10/2010 10:13:26 AM 2225 Views
Action. And more action. - 08/10/2010 11:20:49 AM 2185 Views
The tragedy - 08/10/2010 07:51:29 PM 2276 Views
Re: The tragedy - 09/10/2010 12:42:53 AM 2055 Views
Re: The tragedy - 09/10/2010 12:49:31 AM 2265 Views
I'm wondering what would have happened... - 09/10/2010 01:14:58 AM 1968 Views
Re: I'm wondering what would have happened... - 09/10/2010 10:16:25 AM 2109 Views
Re: I'm wondering what would have happened... - 10/10/2010 03:22:18 AM 2338 Views
Book 7 spoilers ( I know they are implied, but I'd feel bad if I didn't warn) - 11/10/2010 12:51:06 AM 2186 Views
Re: Book 7 spoilers ( I know they are implied, but I'd feel bad if I didn't warn) - 12/10/2010 02:48:53 AM 2125 Views
Other things. - 08/10/2010 11:21:12 AM 2130 Views
Re: Other things. - 08/10/2010 07:52:45 PM 2180 Views
Well. - 10/10/2010 03:26:01 AM 2151 Views
Monday 11 October: chapters 37-38 ~ The end of innocence? - 13/09/2010 09:35:14 PM 2264 Views
How are our characters left? - 11/10/2010 05:25:39 PM 2214 Views
Plot and theme: - 11/10/2010 05:26:37 PM 2147 Views
Prophecy, choice, house elves and knowledge. - 11/10/2010 11:50:46 PM 2361 Views
Any other thoughts? - 11/10/2010 05:27:17 PM 2044 Views
One minor and one major disappointment. - 11/10/2010 11:51:08 PM 2350 Views
Re: One minor and one major disappointment. - 12/10/2010 02:53:28 AM 2360 Views
General comments. - 13/09/2010 09:36:13 PM 2224 Views
The first time I read this book I didn't like it much. - 14/09/2010 04:23:43 AM 2200 Views
It was one of my favourite books from the get-go. - 14/09/2010 09:08:03 AM 2316 Views
The structure of this book is different from the earlier ones - 15/09/2010 09:55:26 AM 2353 Views
What do we think of Rowling's writing skills in this book? - 22/09/2010 12:54:14 PM 2175 Views
Much improved - 22/09/2010 03:08:51 PM 2125 Views
How do you feel about the book as a whole? - 11/10/2010 05:28:23 PM 2112 Views
Re: How do you feel about the book as a whole? - 12/10/2010 03:00:01 AM 2321 Views
Suggestions for the re-read. - 13/09/2010 09:36:56 PM 2169 Views
Your links don't work - 14/09/2010 10:37:32 AM 2106 Views
Fixed. *NM* - 14/09/2010 10:46:08 AM 1290 Views
I just copied old ones. - 14/09/2010 06:32:50 PM 2195 Views
Do we need to have another break? - 27/09/2010 08:00:04 AM 2229 Views
Before the next book, you mean? - 27/09/2010 01:05:14 PM 2091 Views
But now I want to keep reading them. </whine> - 29/09/2010 04:02:57 AM 2086 Views
We'll start Book 6 on Monday 18 October. - 11/10/2010 05:29:21 PM 2270 Views

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