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Re: Ron, Neville, Harry, Hermione, McGonagall, Professor Tofty, Snape, Umbridge and the second trio. Camilla Send a noteboard - 06/10/2010 09:46:38 PM
Ron: His bragging by the water. I like how it redeems James by showing it as an endearing trait rather than deep seated and unpleasant arrogance.

Yeah, and Harry mentions the similarity as if that was still necessary after Ron doing the thing with his hair.


Indeed.

Neville: I really, really, REALLY wish the trio would just tell Neville they admire his parents.

I'm not sure that's really the most helpful thing to say...


I don't know. I keep getting the feeling that Neville is unsure about how the others reacted to his parents. I don't think he is ashamed of them, but I think he is worried that others will find them somehow lessened by their madness.

Hermione's description of him as having a thing for saving people is very apt. I don't remember whether that is something we have discussed. She is quite right: it has been building throughout the books (book 2: Ginny; book 3: Ron; book 4: everyone in the pond; book 5…). I wonder whether it is due to some trauma related to the loss of his parents.

As you say, it builds. In this case, no doubt Cedric plays a role somehow as well.


Probably.

Hermione: I sympathise entirely with her bad temper during exams. Exams can do that. Especially when you are completely unable to evaluate your own work.

I was always the more relaxed kind of exam-taker, but I must admit in having been guilty on many occasions of Hermione's annoying discussion afterwards of every question. Not with the same vehemence, though.


Oh, definitely.

I am also impressed with her manipulation of Umbridge later on.

I'm really not. I found it ridiculous, actually - the way Umbridge bought it, mainly. She IS an adult and qualified Ministry official after all, as she points out to Malfoy himself; you'd think she wouldn't be as naive and simplistic in her thinking as the teenagers, what with their "secret weapon" nonsense. And the way Hermione keeps her from bringing Malfoy and company is even more ridiculous. A low point of the book, that whole thing.


I confess I may be blinded by my dislike for Umbridge here. Anything that sets her back makes me all full of endorphins, and my judgement may be impaired as a result.

I'd like to know how Ron and the Second Trio got access to their wands and escaped Malfoy and company, too...


Probably a spot of violence. I imagine Ginny was the instigator.

McGonagall: I like how she warns the students that while their results will reflect on Umbridge's rule, that is no reason not to do their best.

That was a great line, yeah.


I love the sigh.

I was so terrified she was dead after she was stunned the first time I read the book. There had been rumours that someone was going to die, and I was secretly hoping it would be Hagrid. In retrospect I wish it had been. At any rate, I like how she objects to the treatment of Hagrid at this point. I like that Rowling's good guys are not just "good", they act on it. They are not content to fight the good fight and tolerate whatever injustice might go on in the mean time. At least not always. I like how they may consider that the sensible way, and that they may caution Harry and tell him to not risk his neck, but that they themselves find that almost impossible to do.

It was rather unexpected indeed to have such an extreme reaction, though. No doubt McGonagall realized her intervention could have bad consequences for her, but surely she couldn't have expected what actually happened. I'm still kind of confused why that Ministry Auror - who iirc isn't evil or anything, and fights on the right side in later books - would join in such a criminal deed without any good reason - we don't even hear Umbridge order it or anything.


True.

Snape: I like how he refuses to give Umbridge Veritaserum. I assume he did not give her the real thing last time as well … it could have incriminated him as well as the rest of the order. I am sure he actually does have Veritaserum, however. His reaction to Harry's information is also spot on. It is his job to not show on his face what he thinks.

I'm not so sure he didn't give her the real thing last time, but I guess we'll never know.


It would not make any sense for a member of the Order to give her Veritaserum. Snape is good at the tactics of keeping secrets.

Love his comment to Goyle, too.


Yes.

Umbridge: the defining moment of her character is of course when she decides to use the Cruciatus Curse. "What Cornelius does not know will not hurt him" indeed. And you can see the sadist in her tipping the scales.

Agreed. That scene - and the revelation of her earlier deed - takes her from being a bad guy (okay, gal) on a Hogwarts-level to the real Dark Side, so to speak.


Yes. Although the torture of students has lifted her rather above the Hogwarts evil crowd, too. This takes it a step above that again.

The second trio: They show their true mettle. I love them. I think they have no idea what they are letting themselves in for. I think Ginny is partially spurred on by the memory of her famous siblings and their great exploits; I think Neville is doing it because of his parents; and I have no idea about Luna. Their argument that this is what the DA was for falls a little flat, as defending oneself against Voldemort is one thing, but actively seeking him out is quite another. But there is also a strong sense of doing the right thing. I like that the second trio consists of the less than conventionally heroic (although Ginny is only hampered by being a little sister, and not really hampered by that).

I think Luna's primary motivation is loneliness and the desire to feel accepted, but it's true it's hard to tell with her.

Harry's comment of how if he could pick three DA members, he'd have picked others is weird, too. Or rather, it's not weird so much as very wrong. We don't really know much about Luna's prowess except she can make a Patronus and does some mean Charms with those hats, but Neville has been depicted as very good, and Ginny's hexes have been praised by everyone for two books now. Perhaps getting the Twins instead would be better, but we don't actually know how good those are in combat, and same with the other older students. Harry has a long history of being unfair - inwardly, not in public - to Neville, and underestimates Ginny still because of her being Ron's little sister.


True.
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His shifts between the two are handled nicely. StormCrow - 17/09/2010 07:19:38 PM 2717 Views
Re: His shifts between the two are handled nicely. Camilla - 17/09/2010 07:21:38 PM 2877 Views
Re: His shifts between the two are handled nicely. StormCrow - 17/09/2010 08:29:06 PM 2853 Views
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It's cheesy. *NM* Legolas - 17/09/2010 08:41:32 PM 1513 Views
Yeah, kind of cheesy, but I still enjoyed it. Should we table this for the DH reread? *NM* StormCrow - 20/09/2010 01:21:33 AM 1472 Views
Yeah, let's. *NM* Legolas - 20/09/2010 10:37:32 AM 1562 Views
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Re: Percy and Prefect Ron. Camilla - 18/09/2010 03:35:30 PM 2726 Views
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Characters: Luna, Umbridge and the Sorting Hat *NM* Rebekah - 20/09/2010 08:03:30 AM 1554 Views
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I think McGonagall kind of fails there. Legolas - 20/09/2010 04:58:01 PM 2597 Views
Re: I think McGonagall kind of fails there. Camilla - 20/09/2010 05:05:27 PM 2698 Views
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Re: Oh, I think it is. Camilla - 20/09/2010 06:37:09 PM 2670 Views
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Re: Oh, I think it is. Cockatiel of Doom - 22/09/2010 02:59:40 AM 2649 Views
Prefect picking. Cockatiel of Doom - 22/09/2010 03:10:04 AM 2649 Views
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Weasley goodness. Cockatiel of Doom - 22/09/2010 03:16:41 AM 2679 Views
Re: Weasley goodness. Camilla - 22/09/2010 09:03:52 AM 2781 Views
Re: Weasley goodness. Cockatiel of Doom - 23/09/2010 04:32:45 AM 2822 Views
Plot: things you've noticed. *NM* Rebekah - 20/09/2010 08:04:13 AM 1523 Views
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Re: Oh, there's more than that. Camilla - 20/09/2010 04:47:53 PM 2723 Views
I remembered now: Barty Crouch Junior. Legolas - 20/09/2010 05:08:16 PM 2633 Views
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Hmm. Legolas - 20/09/2010 05:38:28 PM 2686 Views
Re: Hmm. Camilla - 20/09/2010 06:10:03 PM 2716 Views
Because it rather seems like it'd come up if he had. Legolas - 20/09/2010 06:21:30 PM 2724 Views
Re: Because it rather seems like it'd come up if he had. Camilla - 20/09/2010 06:34:32 PM 2709 Views
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Oh yes: Assyria is a wizarding country. Legolas - 22/09/2010 09:42:27 AM 2715 Views
Er, that should've gone under anything else. Oh well. *NM* Legolas - 22/09/2010 09:46:30 AM 1634 Views
Yes Camilla - 22/09/2010 09:50:47 AM 2634 Views
Because that's the only modern meaning of "Assyrian". Legolas - 22/09/2010 09:58:03 AM 2759 Views
Re: Because that's the only modern meaning of "Assyrian". Camilla - 22/09/2010 09:59:39 AM 2747 Views
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True Camilla - 22/09/2010 12:00:12 PM 2693 Views
On their broomsticks, obviously *NM* Elaine - 23/09/2010 02:27:06 PM 1561 Views
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Re: Some interesting developments, I thought. Edited Camilla - 22/09/2010 02:35:20 PM 2637 Views
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Plot progression, and continuing themes. Rebekah - 22/09/2010 12:44:34 PM 2750 Views
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Re: Action and reaction Camilla - 22/09/2010 02:43:32 PM 2651 Views
Umbridge StormCrow - 23/09/2010 03:54:48 AM 2734 Views
Re: Umbridge Camilla - 23/09/2010 08:38:47 AM 2586 Views
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Re: Plot progression, and continuing themes. Camilla - 22/09/2010 02:25:48 PM 2813 Views
Any other comments? Rebekah - 22/09/2010 12:44:54 PM 2580 Views
Erm. Cockatiel of Doom - 23/09/2010 04:48:03 AM 2581 Views
Re: Erm. Camilla - 23/09/2010 08:40:19 AM 2693 Views
Not really a distance thing, but... StormCrow - 23/09/2010 02:58:55 PM 2589 Views
The title of chapter 13. Legolas - 27/09/2010 03:58:04 PM 2808 Views
Good point. Camilla - 27/09/2010 04:00:56 PM 2678 Views
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Le plot. Rebekah - 24/09/2010 05:06:34 PM 2626 Views
Reaction -- the forming of the DA Camilla - 24/09/2010 07:08:45 PM 2779 Views
Re: Reaction -- the forming of the DA StormCrow - 27/09/2010 02:16:53 PM 2713 Views
Re: Reaction -- the forming of the DA Camilla - 27/09/2010 02:30:31 PM 2728 Views
Re: Reaction -- the forming of the DA Legolas - 27/09/2010 03:55:50 PM 2659 Views
Re: Reaction -- the forming of the DA Camilla - 27/09/2010 03:59:33 PM 2570 Views
Re: Reaction -- the forming of the DA Legolas - 27/09/2010 04:11:01 PM 2798 Views
Re: Reaction -- the forming of the DA Camilla - 27/09/2010 04:14:39 PM 2720 Views
Anything else? Rebekah - 24/09/2010 05:07:10 PM 2436 Views
Kittens! Camilla - 24/09/2010 07:09:28 PM 2576 Views
Re: Kittens! StormCrow - 27/09/2010 01:54:26 PM 2738 Views
Re: Kittens! Camilla - 27/09/2010 01:57:30 PM 2676 Views
Re: Kittens! StormCrow - 27/09/2010 02:02:55 PM 2793 Views
Monday 27 September: chapters 19-21 ~ Quidditch, Hagrid and thestrals. Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:28:27 PM 2580 Views
Les Characters Rebekah - 27/09/2010 07:57:17 AM 2581 Views
Ron, Umbridge, McGonagall, Hagrid, Cho, Hermione, Harry Camilla - 27/09/2010 03:26:13 PM 2690 Views
Re: Ron, Umbridge, McGonagall, Hagrid, Cho, Hermione, Harry Legolas - 27/09/2010 04:57:55 PM 2610 Views
Re: Ron, Umbridge, McGonagall, Hagrid, Cho, Hermione, Harry Camilla - 27/09/2010 05:08:10 PM 2529 Views
Re: Various characters you mentioned Cockatiel of Doom - 29/09/2010 03:54:42 AM 2673 Views
Re: Various characters you mentioned Camilla - 29/09/2010 09:41:16 AM 2706 Views
Plot - are we happy with what's happening? Rebekah - 27/09/2010 07:58:33 AM 2653 Views
Definitely some things of note! StormCrow - 27/09/2010 02:43:41 PM 2603 Views
Re: Definitely some things of note! Camilla - 27/09/2010 03:36:39 PM 2701 Views
Re: Definitely some things of note! StormCrow - 27/09/2010 04:03:17 PM 2626 Views
Re: Definitely some things of note! Camilla - 27/09/2010 04:07:20 PM 2457 Views
Mirroring Camilla - 27/09/2010 03:27:51 PM 2608 Views
Re: Mirroring - this is good. StormCrow - 30/09/2010 02:43:21 PM 2682 Views
Any other thoughts? Rebekah - 27/09/2010 07:59:14 AM 2532 Views
Bigotry, the Sorting Hat and Giants Camilla - 27/09/2010 03:28:10 PM 2532 Views
Re: Bigotry, the Sorting Hat and Giants Legolas - 27/09/2010 05:08:42 PM 2544 Views
Re: Bigotry, the Sorting Hat and Giants Camilla - 27/09/2010 05:21:20 PM 2626 Views
Re: Gnomes Cockatiel of Doom - 29/09/2010 04:00:20 AM 2495 Views
Re: Gnomes Camilla - 29/09/2010 09:43:54 AM 2632 Views
Re: Gnomes Cockatiel of Doom - 30/09/2010 03:27:37 AM 2676 Views
Wednesday 29 September: chapters 22-24 Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:29:12 PM 2742 Views
Characters and characterisation *NM* Rebekah - 29/09/2010 04:43:38 PM 1500 Views
High emotions. Camilla - 29/09/2010 05:11:07 PM 2701 Views
Re: High emotions. Legolas - 29/09/2010 08:21:46 PM 2606 Views
Re: High emotions. Camilla - 29/09/2010 09:51:14 PM 2682 Views
Re: High emotions. Legolas - 29/09/2010 10:06:43 PM 2604 Views
Re: High emotions. Camilla - 29/09/2010 10:28:58 PM 2559 Views
Re: High emotions. Legolas - 29/09/2010 11:31:04 PM 2574 Views
Re: High emotions. Camilla - 29/09/2010 11:35:52 PM 2609 Views
Re: High emotions. StormCrow - 29/09/2010 09:18:42 PM 2427 Views
Re: High emotions. Camilla - 29/09/2010 10:05:32 PM 2649 Views
Re: High emotions. StormCrow - 30/09/2010 04:04:31 AM 2611 Views
Themes and progression of themes. *NM* Rebekah - 29/09/2010 04:44:11 PM 1461 Views
A bit of a respite on that score Camilla - 29/09/2010 05:18:46 PM 2609 Views
Plotting and plot continuity *NM* Rebekah - 29/09/2010 04:44:32 PM 1496 Views
Re: Plotting and plot continuity Camilla - 29/09/2010 05:11:43 PM 2877 Views
Re: Plotting and plot continuity Legolas - 29/09/2010 09:17:02 PM 2688 Views
Re: Plotting and plot continuity Camilla - 29/09/2010 09:58:03 PM 2755 Views
Re: Plotting and plot continuity StormCrow - 30/09/2010 02:36:25 PM 2747 Views
Other things of note. *NM* Rebekah - 29/09/2010 04:44:51 PM 1529 Views
A Question Camilla - 29/09/2010 05:12:06 PM 2688 Views
Rowling is having fun once more, this time with St. Mungo's. Legolas - 29/09/2010 09:19:53 PM 2625 Views
Re: Rowling is having fun once more, this time with St. Mungo's. Camilla - 29/09/2010 10:35:51 PM 2476 Views
Re: Rowling is having fun once more, this time with St. Mungo's. Cockatiel of Doom - 30/09/2010 03:42:21 AM 2667 Views
The Lockheart encounter is great too. Seriana Sedai - 30/09/2010 05:21:17 AM 2636 Views
Re: The Lockheart encounter is great too. StormCrow - 30/09/2010 02:50:18 PM 2701 Views
Hermione is apparently smarter than J.K. Rowling. Or maybe just Harry. Hard to tell. Cockatiel of Doom - 30/09/2010 03:47:22 AM 2637 Views
The fact that she has Hermione use the right term points to a subtle distinction. Camilla - 30/09/2010 03:06:07 PM 2688 Views
Friday 1 October: chapters 25-27 - Sorry I'm late. Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:29:58 PM 2551 Views
The characters: development, actions, etc. *NM* Rebekah - 02/10/2010 11:25:09 AM 1569 Views
Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore Camilla - 02/10/2010 07:54:05 PM 2738 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore Cockatiel of Doom - 03/10/2010 02:19:37 AM 2703 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore Camilla - 03/10/2010 10:05:48 AM 2948 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore StormCrow - 04/10/2010 09:10:47 PM 2671 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore Camilla - 04/10/2010 09:18:42 PM 2615 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore StormCrow - 05/10/2010 01:06:54 AM 2671 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore Camilla - 05/10/2010 09:02:36 AM 2788 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore Legolas - 05/10/2010 10:39:30 PM 2713 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore Camilla - 05/10/2010 10:50:27 PM 2540 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore Legolas - 05/10/2010 11:13:36 PM 2646 Views
Plot/action: getting exciting? *NM* Rebekah - 02/10/2010 11:25:48 AM 1531 Views
Beginning of the end Camilla - 02/10/2010 07:55:36 PM 2752 Views
Re: Beginning of the end Legolas - 05/10/2010 10:45:32 PM 2667 Views
Re: Beginning of the end Camilla - 05/10/2010 10:52:28 PM 2699 Views
Re: Beginning of the end Seriana Sedai - 06/10/2010 01:33:57 AM 2645 Views
Other things. *NM* Rebekah - 02/10/2010 11:26:06 AM 1464 Views
The way reactions are given, and an observation about occlumency. Camilla - 02/10/2010 07:55:48 PM 2711 Views
The least important of your points... StormCrow - 04/10/2010 08:18:04 PM 2817 Views
Re: The least important of your points... Camilla - 04/10/2010 08:20:15 PM 2585 Views
Re: The least important of your points... Seriana Sedai - 05/10/2010 07:41:32 PM 2751 Views
Monday 4 October: chapters 28-30 - bad memories, dramatic exits, and large brothers. Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:32:03 PM 2635 Views
Characters: James, Sirius, Lily, Snape, Umbridge, Fred, George, Hagrid, Grawp Rebekah - 04/10/2010 06:31:44 PM 2719 Views
The twins, the teachers, Cho, Snape, James Sirius, Wormtail, Lupin, Lily, Harry and McGonagall. Camilla - 04/10/2010 07:40:26 PM 2654 Views
Re: The twins, the teachers, Cho, Snape, James Sirius, Wormtail, Lupin, Lily, Harry and McGonagall. Seriana Sedai - 05/10/2010 05:16:45 AM 2785 Views
Re: The twins, the teachers, Cho, Snape, James Sirius, Wormtail, Lupin, Lily, Harry and McGonagall. Camilla - 05/10/2010 09:19:28 AM 2808 Views
Re: The twins, the teachers, Cho, Snape, James Sirius, Wormtail, Lupin, Lily, Harry and McGonagall. Seriana Sedai - 05/10/2010 03:56:50 PM 2958 Views
Re: The twins, the teachers, Cho, Snape, James Sirius, Wormtail, Lupin, Lily, Harry and McGonagall. Legolas - 05/10/2010 11:09:16 PM 2688 Views
Re: The twins, the teachers, Cho, Snape, James Sirius, Wormtail, Lupin, Lily, Harry and McGonagall. Camilla - 05/10/2010 11:27:30 PM 2578 Views
Plotting and themes. Rebekah - 04/10/2010 06:32:16 PM 2652 Views
family and bigotry Camilla - 04/10/2010 07:41:22 PM 2677 Views
Weasley Mayhem. And stuff. Cockatiel of Doom - 05/10/2010 02:07:06 AM 2645 Views
Re: Weasley Mayhem. And stuff. Camilla - 05/10/2010 09:06:04 AM 2575 Views
Re: family and bigotry Legolas - 05/10/2010 11:27:55 PM 2696 Views
Re: family and bigotry Camilla - 05/10/2010 11:37:11 PM 2590 Views
Anything else? Rebekah - 04/10/2010 06:32:43 PM 2664 Views
portaits Camilla - 04/10/2010 07:41:49 PM 2469 Views
I'm wondering if Dumbledore is camping out in his office. Legolas - 05/10/2010 11:19:03 PM 2711 Views
Re: I'm wondering if Dumbledore is camping out in his office. Camilla - 05/10/2010 11:28:37 PM 2733 Views
That would be awesome. Seriana Sedai - 06/10/2010 02:28:33 AM 2650 Views
Wednesday 6 October: chapters 31-33 - OWLs, fights and other such hijinks. Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:32:40 PM 2659 Views
Characters - so many to deal with. Rebekah - 06/10/2010 08:13:36 PM 2587 Views
Ron, Neville, Harry, Hermione, McGonagall, Professor Tofty, Snape, Umbridge and the second trio. Camilla - 06/10/2010 08:34:55 PM 2727 Views
Re: Ron, Neville, Harry, Hermione, McGonagall, Professor Tofty, Snape, Umbridge and the second trio. Legolas - 06/10/2010 09:30:18 PM 2695 Views
Re: Ron, Neville, Harry, Hermione, McGonagall, Professor Tofty, Snape, Umbridge and the second trio. Camilla - 06/10/2010 09:46:38 PM 2711 Views
Plot! Theme and Action! Rebekah - 06/10/2010 08:14:21 PM 2617 Views
The trap is set Camilla - 06/10/2010 08:36:03 PM 2597 Views
Re: The trap is set Legolas - 06/10/2010 09:37:17 PM 2577 Views
Re: The trap is set Camilla - 06/10/2010 09:50:15 PM 2691 Views
Anything else you want to waffle about. Rebekah - 06/10/2010 08:14:50 PM 2647 Views
exams Camilla - 06/10/2010 08:36:35 PM 2620 Views
Friday 8 October: chapters 34-36 - The big fight and the big farewell. Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:33:45 PM 2806 Views
Characters: Death Eaters, Order of the Phoenix, and the children. Rebekah - 08/10/2010 11:19:58 AM 2727 Views
Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin Camilla - 08/10/2010 07:52:01 PM 2667 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin Legolas - 09/10/2010 01:00:00 AM 2862 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin Camilla - 09/10/2010 10:23:24 AM 2529 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin Cockatiel of Doom - 10/10/2010 03:40:46 AM 2497 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin Camilla - 10/10/2010 10:54:31 AM 2749 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin Cockatiel of Doom - 12/10/2010 02:46:40 AM 2786 Views
First big appearance for Bellatrix. Legolas - 09/10/2010 01:11:54 AM 2741 Views
Re: First big appearance for Bellatrix. Camilla - 09/10/2010 10:13:26 AM 2680 Views
Action. And more action. Rebekah - 08/10/2010 11:20:49 AM 2631 Views
The tragedy Camilla - 08/10/2010 07:51:29 PM 2735 Views
Re: The tragedy Legolas - 09/10/2010 12:42:53 AM 2523 Views
Re: The tragedy Camilla - 09/10/2010 12:49:31 AM 2746 Views
I'm wondering what would have happened... Legolas - 09/10/2010 01:14:58 AM 2447 Views
Re: I'm wondering what would have happened... Camilla - 09/10/2010 10:16:25 AM 2603 Views
Re: I'm wondering what would have happened... Cockatiel of Doom - 10/10/2010 03:22:18 AM 2812 Views
Book 7 spoilers ( I know they are implied, but I'd feel bad if I didn't warn) Seriana Sedai - 11/10/2010 12:51:06 AM 2649 Views
Re: Book 7 spoilers ( I know they are implied, but I'd feel bad if I didn't warn) Cockatiel of Doom - 12/10/2010 02:48:53 AM 2571 Views
Other things. Rebekah - 08/10/2010 11:21:12 AM 2593 Views
Re: Other things. Camilla - 08/10/2010 07:52:45 PM 2653 Views
Well. Cockatiel of Doom - 10/10/2010 03:26:01 AM 2583 Views
Monday 11 October: chapters 37-38 ~ The end of innocence? Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:35:14 PM 2717 Views
How are our characters left? Rebekah - 11/10/2010 05:25:39 PM 2728 Views
Phineas, Dumbledore, Voldemort, Fudge, McGonagall, Harry, Ron and Moody Camilla - 11/10/2010 11:50:16 PM 2676 Views
Plot and theme: Rebekah - 11/10/2010 05:26:37 PM 2602 Views
Prophecy, choice, house elves and knowledge. Camilla - 11/10/2010 11:50:46 PM 2828 Views
Any other thoughts? Rebekah - 11/10/2010 05:27:17 PM 2539 Views
One minor and one major disappointment. Camilla - 11/10/2010 11:51:08 PM 2833 Views
Re: One minor and one major disappointment. Cockatiel of Doom - 12/10/2010 02:53:28 AM 2819 Views
General comments. Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:36:13 PM 2737 Views
The first time I read this book I didn't like it much. Darth_Katie - 14/09/2010 04:23:43 AM 2651 Views
It was one of my favourite books from the get-go. Camilla - 14/09/2010 09:08:03 AM 2791 Views
The structure of this book is different from the earlier ones Camilla - 15/09/2010 09:55:26 AM 2846 Views
What do we think of Rowling's writing skills in this book? Rebekah - 22/09/2010 12:54:14 PM 2655 Views
Much improved Camilla - 22/09/2010 03:08:51 PM 2586 Views
How do you feel about the book as a whole? Rebekah - 11/10/2010 05:28:23 PM 2562 Views
Re: How do you feel about the book as a whole? Cockatiel of Doom - 12/10/2010 03:00:01 AM 2770 Views
Suggestions for the re-read. Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:36:56 PM 2644 Views
Your links don't work Camilla - 14/09/2010 10:37:32 AM 2592 Views
Fixed. *NM* Legolas - 14/09/2010 10:46:08 AM 1601 Views
And fixed the links in the other ones, too - don't bother searching for new posts, there aren't any. *NM* Legolas - 14/09/2010 06:35:37 PM 1475 Views
I just copied old ones. Rebekah - 14/09/2010 06:32:50 PM 2638 Views
Do we need to have another break? Rebekah - 27/09/2010 08:00:04 AM 2674 Views
Before the next book, you mean? Camilla - 27/09/2010 01:05:14 PM 2542 Views
But now I want to keep reading them. </whine> Cockatiel of Doom - 29/09/2010 04:02:57 AM 2546 Views
Will probably just have a little break - i.e. wait till the following Monday to start. Rebekah - 03/10/2010 09:48:52 AM 2633 Views
Re: Will probably just have a little break - i.e. wait till the following Monday to start. Cockatiel of Doom - 06/10/2010 12:01:09 AM 2862 Views
We'll start Book 6 on Monday 18 October. Rebekah - 11/10/2010 05:29:21 PM 2736 Views
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