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Not really Larry Send a noteboard - 08/12/2009 11:19:46 PM
I don't think there's exactly a single definition for it, but perhaps you have learned something of this while in school? ;)


Much like God, it's more easily defined by what it isn't. And it certainly isn't A Confederacy of Dunces.


Good luck with that definition; it's largely been rejected by scholars in the field over the years.


So you're justifying your stance by referring to the words of authorities of the field? Kind of contradicts the very title of your post


I'm talking about in respect to others; as for me, my own conclusions differ from quite a few and are based on some knowledge of the field. For cultural history, I do have the grad degree to show for it, with an emphasis on areas that touch upon what today might be labeled the "fantastic" (popular religion). So just admitting that I know from first-hand experience the problems he'd have from others isn't contradicting myself :P
Illusions fall like the husk of a fruit, one after another, and the fruit is experience. - Narrator, Sylvie

Je suis méchant.
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Since people are weighing in on that best fantasy list I posted, how many on this list have ya read? Larry - 06/12/2009 05:22:40 AM 2261 Views
A lot of those books aren't fantasy. Tom - 06/12/2009 05:34:18 AM 795 Views
Most of those depend upon how loosely one defines it Larry - 06/12/2009 06:41:50 AM 771 Views
Up next, fantasy fans attempt to co-opt Carl Sagan's Pale Blue Dot. *NM* Ghavrel - 06/12/2009 07:20:03 AM 244 Views
Actually, considering who put that list together, I'd at least look into their rationales Larry - 06/12/2009 07:42:11 AM 702 Views
Mmm... there's been a pronounced tendency among spec ficcers, from what I've seen, Ghavrel - 06/12/2009 09:09:26 AM 953 Views
I agree Camilla - 06/12/2009 09:35:32 AM 702 Views
I'm a bit different than that Larry - 06/12/2009 09:20:09 PM 761 Views
Re: I'm a bit different than that Ghavrel - 07/12/2009 02:04:47 AM 801 Views
Then what should it be defined as? Larry - 07/12/2009 02:28:55 AM 848 Views
What, didn't you major in Fixing Up Confusions and other Issues? Ghavrel - 07/12/2009 02:49:30 AM 538 Views
I majored in raising more questions and doubting absolutes Larry - 07/12/2009 02:50:35 AM 668 Views
You majored in being a pain in the butt is what you majored in. Ghavrel - 07/12/2009 02:52:00 AM 700 Views
No, that was my second minor Larry - 07/12/2009 02:54:53 AM 629 Views
In that case, I trust my definition more than theirs. Ghavrel - 07/12/2009 03:05:32 AM 685 Views
Re: I majored in raising more questions and doubting absolutes The_Last_Gunslinger - 08/12/2009 10:59:03 PM 742 Views
Not really Larry - 08/12/2009 11:19:46 PM 1021 Views
Fantasy has no easy definition. Werthead - 07/12/2009 02:46:33 AM 753 Views
That's true. Ghavrel - 07/12/2009 02:50:37 AM 716 Views
But the Song of Soloman is certainly akin to that *NM* Larry - 07/12/2009 02:51:21 AM 236 Views
No, that's just porn. *NM* Ghavrel - 07/12/2009 02:52:24 AM 330 Views
If you redefine fatasy as fiction, the category loses its value Camilla - 06/12/2009 12:33:03 PM 733 Views
Remember what I studied for my grad degree Larry - 06/12/2009 04:10:08 PM 747 Views
Re: Remember what I studied for my grad degree Camilla - 06/12/2009 04:33:58 PM 760 Views
Really? Larry - 06/12/2009 09:22:21 PM 873 Views
Re: Really? Camilla - 06/12/2009 10:49:36 PM 826 Views
Literature does not exist in a vacuum Larry - 06/12/2009 10:53:58 PM 538 Views
Obviously I know that Camilla - 06/12/2009 11:30:55 PM 690 Views
But it is a material artifact of a culture Larry - 07/12/2009 12:47:45 AM 604 Views
But that is not all it is. Camilla - 07/12/2009 08:16:32 AM 799 Views
Indeed. A lot of them are science fiction. Werthead - 06/12/2009 04:32:26 PM 717 Views
Re: Indeed. A lot of them are science fiction. Camilla - 06/12/2009 05:01:55 PM 619 Views
Several dozen contributed to the suggestion list Larry - 06/12/2009 09:23:21 PM 539 Views
I've read 34. Legolas - 06/12/2009 10:53:38 AM 600 Views
Well, when individual preferences affect listings, such things happen, I guess Larry - 06/12/2009 09:24:39 PM 592 Views
78 that I have finished, but that is really not the point. Camilla - 06/12/2009 11:55:16 AM 745 Views
Definitions of "fantasy" vary considerably Larry - 06/12/2009 09:25:35 PM 695 Views
According to the one you just applied, my master's thesis was one... Camilla - 06/12/2009 10:47:25 PM 613 Views
It's just a state of mind, I suppose Larry - 07/12/2009 12:50:22 AM 710 Views
Re: It's just a state of mind, I suppose Camilla - 07/12/2009 08:17:09 AM 748 Views
I've read 28. Linda - 06/12/2009 03:42:40 PM 790 Views
89... but in general, that is many by the same author. jh - 06/12/2009 06:17:06 PM 598 Views
46. This is an idiotic list. A Confederacy of Dunces just IS NOT fantasy. Ghavrel - 06/12/2009 08:34:07 PM 829 Views
You say that, based on having read maybe 2% of the list? Larry - 06/12/2009 09:27:32 PM 530 Views
Jane Eyre? Napoleon62 - 07/12/2009 12:00:36 AM 679 Views
It plays upon the Gothic novel precepts Larry - 07/12/2009 12:51:31 AM 549 Views
Larry...come on...if it's Fantasy I have a bridge in Brooklyn for you to buy Tom - 07/12/2009 04:17:38 AM 731 Views
Devise a better? Larry - 07/12/2009 04:34:46 AM 645 Views
It would be much shorter Tom - 07/12/2009 02:20:05 PM 915 Views
It should be shorter than some of the ones you listed Larry - 08/12/2009 11:26:35 PM 651 Views
Argh. Your quoting skills need work. *NM* Ghavrel - 09/12/2009 08:58:15 AM 347 Views
You seem to be misunderstanding Tom's post. Legolas - 09/12/2009 10:57:08 AM 662 Views
No,I was just just commenting on my likes/dislikes of that list Larry - 09/12/2009 01:21:45 PM 802 Views
I think you are misunderstanding again... jh - 09/12/2009 01:46:49 PM 775 Views
Yes. What Jonte said. *NM* Legolas - 09/12/2009 02:41:41 PM 363 Views
Oh,that Larry - 09/12/2009 06:07:11 PM 850 Views
Re: It should be shorter than some of the ones you listed Camilla - 21/12/2009 09:35:11 AM 1061 Views
I read it very recently. He masturbates to a dog. Fetishes != fantasy. Ghavrel - 07/12/2009 01:58:57 AM 573 Views
Like I said, it's been years for me Larry - 07/12/2009 02:30:58 AM 776 Views
No worries. That one just got me a little testy. Ghavrel - 07/12/2009 02:48:01 AM 669 Views
96... but so many books are missing that i can think of... i mean, really! temeraire - 07/12/2009 02:07:18 AM 620 Views
It's an interesting experiment of a list, miki, and I think it's little more than that Larry - 07/12/2009 02:29:56 AM 559 Views
I've read about 90 of them ranagrande - 18/12/2009 03:37:49 PM 932 Views
It would be a more interesting list if it contained more books that fantasy fans would want to read random thoughts - 30/12/2009 06:35:18 PM 797 Views
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