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True Larry Send a noteboard - 21/05/2010 08:45:54 PM
Come on, you want to learn about the ventive, bound forms of nouns vs. absolute and construct forms, the fucked up writing system (think in Sumerian, but pronounce it in Akkadian) and of course all the fun you can count on when studying any Semitic language in verbs (III-weak verbs, hollow verbs, I-aleph, I-nun and I-w verbs and all sorts of other fun fun fun!).

I realized at about Lesson 12 in the Akkadian book that it is by far the hardest Semitic language to learn. You basically have to know a decent amount of Sumerian to read and write it, you need to memorize about 150-300 of the more common signs (there are up to around 600, but half of those are just names of particular cities, etc.), and you have a more complex grammar than in Hebrew or Arabic (or Aramaic, but that goes without saying). I had to STOP at Lesson 12, fully learn the writing system (Neo-Assyrian forms; the Old Babylonian lapidary forms are the sort of thing that can be learned incrementally) then go back. Then, around Lesson 20, I had to go back and brush up on my Sumerian (and those Old Babylonian lapidary forms came in handy). Once I finish the whole textbook (38 lessons) I will be able to read most anything in Sumerian or Akkadian, which, combined with Biblical Hebrew, Aramaic (including Syriac), Egyptian (including Coptic) and classical languages will mean I've got the ancient world pretty well covered.

The question is, just what do I research once I'm done?


Linear A.
Illusions fall like the husk of a fruit, one after another, and the fruit is experience. - Narrator, Sylvie

Je suis méchant.
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Inspired by Camilla's post: quit saying "between you and I" already - 20/05/2010 04:16:29 PM 1155 Views
It isn't something I can recall really noticing - 20/05/2010 04:22:42 PM 349 Views
You don't live in the United States of America. - 20/05/2010 04:31:23 PM 326 Views
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Re: You don't live in the United States of America. - 20/05/2010 05:35:34 PM 336 Views
I think this is one of those things people do because they think it makes them sound smart. - 20/05/2010 04:33:38 PM 367 Views
When in actuality it exposese their stupidity and ignorance. *NM* - 20/05/2010 04:36:08 PM 176 Views
Like saying "octopi". <Shivers> *NM* - 20/05/2010 11:56:27 PM 276 Views
Octopodes makes them sounds like aliens - 21/05/2010 12:25:14 AM 445 Views
Actually nothing like that - 21/05/2010 04:49:43 PM 296 Views
Yeah, I've never had a problem with that one. *NM* - 21/05/2010 09:45:38 PM 283 Views
I don't know how me feels about this. - 20/05/2010 04:49:03 PM 352 Views
This makes me want cookies. *NM* - 20/05/2010 04:50:34 PM 274 Views
I was thinking about him when I wrote it. - 20/05/2010 04:55:04 PM 331 Views
*NM* - 20/05/2010 05:55:32 PM 156 Views
Dude, I could care less *NM* - 20/05/2010 05:30:37 PM 258 Views
*cough* move along... - 20/05/2010 07:16:18 PM 333 Views
That annoys me, too - 20/05/2010 05:34:30 PM 480 Views
I think you're confusing it with phrase-final prepositions. *NM* - 20/05/2010 11:57:30 PM 275 Views
No - 21/05/2010 12:00:02 AM 298 Views
Oh right, that two (pro)nouns linked by "and" have to be the same case. - 21/05/2010 12:03:59 AM 535 Views
Re: Oh right, that two (pro)nouns linked by "and" have to be the same case. - 21/05/2010 12:06:51 AM 549 Views
Er, no... - 21/05/2010 12:19:31 AM 288 Views
Re: Er, no... - 21/05/2010 12:22:32 AM 304 Views
It doesn't. The reason for that is exactly as Tom says: idiotic teachers. *NM* - 21/05/2010 12:28:12 AM 257 Views
But that is what I said when you contradicted me! *NM* - 21/05/2010 12:38:11 AM 263 Views
OK, I'm officially lost. - 21/05/2010 12:44:28 AM 341 Views
Re: OK, I'm officially lost. - 21/05/2010 12:49:59 AM 524 Views
Can you start right from the beginning? - 21/05/2010 12:52:08 AM 306 Views
Re: Can you start right from the beginning? - 21/05/2010 12:55:34 AM 320 Views
Please let me know when you sort this out. - 21/05/2010 04:26:50 AM 274 Views
Sorted - 22/05/2010 03:06:53 AM 516 Views
Ah, I think I've found the problem - 21/05/2010 11:50:59 AM 353 Views
Re: Inspired by Camilla's post: quit saying "between you and I" already - 20/05/2010 07:28:16 PM 412 Views
Look at Camilla's post directly below. - 20/05/2010 07:49:03 PM 336 Views
Well, the same problem appears in Swedish to some extent. - 20/05/2010 07:28:32 PM 554 Views
It doesn't annoy me, but I do fine myself silently correcting it when I hear it. - 20/05/2010 07:44:49 PM 351 Views
Along these lines - 20/05/2010 08:52:33 PM 510 Views
Well, shucks, Tom, we just ain't no good at that there grammer stuff. - 20/05/2010 07:49:18 PM 326 Views
And we're all unique little snowflakes. - 20/05/2010 08:20:03 PM 332 Views
hollah that, brutha. *NM* - 20/05/2010 08:41:03 PM 261 Views
You mean grammir. *NM* - 20/05/2010 09:41:55 PM 298 Views
Not limited to the US of A. - 20/05/2010 08:26:30 PM 507 Views
If you're going to start down that path... - 20/05/2010 10:12:24 PM 327 Views
Personally - 20/05/2010 11:30:54 PM 272 Views
<Winces at your use of the word "ungrammatical"> *NM* - 21/05/2010 12:09:29 AM 285 Views
I take it the wincing is at the concept, and not at the word itself... - 21/05/2010 12:32:43 AM 520 Views
It's the misappropriation of linguistic terminology to an improper use. - 21/05/2010 12:44:54 AM 592 Views
I note you haven't replied to the main thread yet... - 21/05/2010 01:12:05 AM 432 Views
Re: I note you haven't replied to the main thread yet... - 23/05/2010 01:36:10 PM 502 Views
Fair enough. - 23/05/2010 01:58:58 PM 288 Views
Well of course that's wrong. It ought to be "The man whom you said that was coming." *NM* - 21/05/2010 07:03:37 AM 139 Views
OK, I know you're kidding around, but I can't tell if you know it isn't even prescriptively correct. - 21/05/2010 10:38:51 AM 299 Views
<chant> - 21/05/2010 11:52:17 AM 292 Views
I can't draw you a syntax tree or what have you to prove that it's wrong, no, but I know it is. - 22/05/2010 02:56:52 AM 289 Views
No trees necessary – this is lecture is 100% ecologically friendly. - 22/05/2010 10:04:34 AM 473 Views
Clever clever. Explains why Greek changes the case in its indirect statements so much. *NM* - 22/05/2010 09:47:26 PM 140 Views
Example please? *NM* - 22/05/2010 10:34:05 PM 273 Views
Yeah, I worded that awkwardly. - 23/05/2010 02:30:49 AM 301 Views
Ah, I see that I misread your subject line. - 23/05/2010 01:17:28 PM 512 Views
Actually, that would be a direct object - 21/05/2010 01:11:42 AM 300 Views
*blinks* Now I'm confused. - 21/05/2010 01:21:51 AM 283 Views
No it isn't...in that case it would be "me", and not "a cookie", that is wanted. - 21/05/2010 04:28:55 AM 302 Views
Well... - 21/05/2010 04:33:27 AM 485 Views
"I want me a cookie" is not proper English. - 21/05/2010 04:38:20 AM 490 Views
I know that - 21/05/2010 05:31:52 AM 410 Views
See, this is an area where your dialect argument would make sense. - 21/05/2010 11:53:17 AM 406 Views
But that doesn't actually make any sense in Latin. - 22/05/2010 03:03:28 AM 297 Views
I know it's dative in Latin - 22/05/2010 03:14:48 AM 488 Views
Well, yes. But prepositions are how we decline our pronouns in English. - 22/05/2010 04:35:42 AM 276 Views
And you would be wrong in that. - 22/05/2010 02:27:16 PM 296 Views
Iċ am not sure what þū said me is relevant these days... - 22/05/2010 09:57:41 PM 274 Views
You still just aren't getting this. - 23/05/2010 12:52:31 AM 286 Views
I accept it. But not in the circumstances when the prepositional phrase "to/for me" is used. *NM* - 23/05/2010 02:27:30 AM 138 Views
Technically, most prepositions in English take the dative. - 23/05/2010 02:31:06 AM 9439 Views
Huh. That makes sense. *NM* - 23/05/2010 02:32:57 AM 134 Views
You're confusing me almost as much as Larry. - 22/05/2010 11:15:43 AM 475 Views
That was atrocious Latin. - 22/05/2010 02:20:35 PM 509 Views
When asked who told him that killing was wrong, Johnny Five said "I told me." - 21/05/2010 09:52:15 PM 302 Views
Yes, yes I am. *NM* - 21/05/2010 10:14:16 PM 133 Views
C'est moi. - 21/05/2010 04:34:41 AM 498 Views
One additional thought. - 22/05/2010 02:14:15 AM 430 Views
Let me clarify. - 22/05/2010 11:32:25 AM 297 Views
Please don;t misunderstand what I posted as beng preachy. - 23/05/2010 11:12:43 PM 284 Views
in my elementary school grammar classes... - 21/05/2010 04:44:50 AM 337 Views
I'm unaware of any exceptions. It's a very good rule. *NM* - 21/05/2010 07:04:23 AM 134 Views
That is what I was taught... - 21/05/2010 02:28:40 PM 588 Views
Same. - 21/05/2010 09:54:10 PM 320 Views
I was taught the same. *NM* - 24/05/2010 02:24:41 PM 297 Views
Seriously dudes? 70 posts about fricking grammar?! - 21/05/2010 06:46:58 PM 309 Views
I'm proud of us all. If it were about Akkadian grammar, I'd be even more proud. *NM* - 21/05/2010 06:51:20 PM 244 Views
You could make it about Russian grammar - 21/05/2010 07:05:35 PM 411 Views
I think I would only get slightly more interest than if it were Akkadian grammar. - 21/05/2010 08:13:24 PM 424 Views
True - 21/05/2010 08:45:54 PM 288 Views
Ah, you misunderstood my question. - 21/05/2010 09:10:56 PM 491 Views
I guess I did - 21/05/2010 09:25:53 PM 554 Views
Those all sound boring. - 21/05/2010 10:03:25 PM 456 Views
Not if they are approached from a cultural vantage point - 21/05/2010 10:28:02 PM 473 Views
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