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Re: *Shakes Head* Cannoli Send a noteboard - 08/08/2010 07:43:11 PM
You don't get it, do you? You cannot see that the things you do to hurt others could just as easily be used to hurt you.
Look who's talking! You don't see that granting a special privilege and a novelty institution is a dagnerous precedent, much less compelling others to render artificial respect and legal obligations to said institution, just because you perceive an iniquity where none exists. Because of the aberrant behavior and choices of homosexuals exclude them by their own choice from certain social constructs and lifestyles, they demand that a pointless institution be created and legally empowered, even forced down the throats of those who do not share their beliefs. This is not a case of inequality or discrimination - the status quo applies equally to both sides. Both homosexuals and heterosexuals have the exact same rights of marriage. Neither may marry a person of the same sex and either may marry any eligible person of the opposite sex. The personal choices of homosexuals to abstain from such arrangements does not entitle them to special privileges, anymore than the refusal of Catholics to eat meat on Fridays entitles them to legally compell restaurants to serve meatless dishes.

Instead, you point to the ridiculous parts of the case as applied to you while failing to see how ridiculous the arguments against the group that happens to scare you are.
In what manner do they scare me, and why don't you demonstrate some evidence of that? You are the one making illogical, unreasoned and unsupported arguments. You draw parallels where none exist and compare completely unrelated institutions and practices. You are excoriating people for making a decision that affects their lives and communities because it is at odds with your aesthetic sensibilities.

Its not that you are conservative. Your way of thinking would be equally damaging regardless of ideology.
You are the one trying to do damage, by insisting that people make changes they will have to live with and do not want to, according to your ideals, while showing absolutely no evidence of having considered the ramifications beyond an artificial abstract notion of false equality.

You are a shallow, thoughtless and selfish demagogue, regardless of ideology.
Cannoli
"Sometimes unhinged, sometimes unfair, always entertaining"
- The Crownless

“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” GK Chesteron
Deus Vult!
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Let's ban all Christian Marriage. - 07/08/2010 06:36:13 AM 1761 Views
Nice satire, but it raises another point for me. - 07/08/2010 07:20:49 AM 1144 Views
One small problem... - 07/08/2010 08:02:34 AM 1155 Views
Re tax. - 07/08/2010 08:47:22 AM 1199 Views
That seems sensible to me. - 09/08/2010 08:13:26 PM 1096 Views
Not sure what you mean by "demoted." - 07/08/2010 03:50:02 PM 1225 Views
Nice. *NM* - 07/08/2010 08:58:20 AM 662 Views
That would only be appropriate if Christians wanted to ban secular unions of normal people. - 07/08/2010 11:51:29 AM 1411 Views
Hey, look! There was a point over there! - 07/08/2010 03:46:41 PM 1225 Views
Who else should make those decisions? - 07/08/2010 08:00:39 PM 1162 Views
I'd totally... - 08/08/2010 04:14:15 AM 1076 Views
I'd totally... - 08/08/2010 06:17:30 AM 1240 Views
You'd defend this idiot? *NM* - 08/08/2010 06:40:34 AM 549 Views
Indeed - 08/08/2010 06:43:53 AM 1174 Views
I used to think Joel was the biggest rambler on this site. I am seriously reconsidering. - 08/08/2010 05:24:56 AM 1178 Views
And my assessment of one poster as the most content-poor, non-contributing slug is unchanged - 08/08/2010 07:17:02 PM 1077 Views
Um, ok. *NM* - 10/08/2010 12:48:19 AM 550 Views
*Shakes Head* - 08/08/2010 06:23:47 AM 1053 Views
I highly doubt Cannoli is "scared" of homosexuals *NM* - 08/08/2010 06:29:54 AM 586 Views
Perhaps not in the physical sense. - 08/08/2010 06:35:53 AM 1142 Views
Re: Perhaps not in the physical sense. - 08/08/2010 06:46:56 AM 1094 Views
Gah! You did that on purpose! - 09/08/2010 01:05:13 AM 1050 Views
whoops *NM* - 09/08/2010 02:22:49 AM 507 Views
Re: *Shakes Head* - 08/08/2010 07:43:11 PM 1089 Views
This must be the "thought out reaction" I've heard so much about. - 08/08/2010 10:45:59 PM 1032 Views
You cannot be that stupid. - 11/08/2010 03:10:55 PM 1320 Views
Incorrect. Genders are not treated equally. - 11/08/2010 07:53:00 PM 1421 Views
all you need is enough support to pass an amendment - 08/08/2010 02:46:08 PM 1019 Views
A lot of the arguments would seem to justify polygamy and incest too - 08/08/2010 11:51:24 PM 1064 Views
And what is wrong with polygamy? *NM* - 09/08/2010 10:36:53 AM 557 Views
Did I say there was anything? - 09/08/2010 11:03:10 AM 1181 Views
Plolygamy and incest are not on the same level of bad. - 09/08/2010 11:00:07 AM 1128 Views
Is that assumption valid? - 09/08/2010 11:36:26 AM 1050 Views
Re: Is that assumption valid? - 09/08/2010 11:46:42 AM 1046 Views
Re: Is that assumption valid? - 09/08/2010 12:07:22 PM 1155 Views
Not really - 09/08/2010 01:20:46 PM 1019 Views
Re: Not really - 09/08/2010 01:27:04 PM 1143 Views
Re: Not really - 09/08/2010 02:14:43 PM 1011 Views
Re: Not really - 09/08/2010 03:06:31 PM 1190 Views
Spoken like someone who does not have to insure an employee's six wives. - 11/08/2010 03:11:57 PM 1182 Views
... - 11/08/2010 03:22:50 PM 1083 Views
Mmm, but when you're strictly discussing marriage - 09/08/2010 06:13:30 PM 1193 Views
Re: Mmm, but when you're strictly discussing marriage - 10/08/2010 01:24:06 AM 1000 Views
Now I think about it, I'm not sure. - 10/08/2010 04:09:43 PM 1119 Views
Re: Now I think about it, I'm not sure. - 10/08/2010 06:12:39 PM 1006 Views
Great post Danny - 09/08/2010 08:22:27 PM 883 Views
It should be noted again... - 09/08/2010 08:59:32 PM 1167 Views
and how is it not a right? - 09/08/2010 09:19:12 PM 1060 Views
My definition of rights... - 09/08/2010 10:47:16 PM 1161 Views
mmm, but the UN has legally stated marriage as a right. - 10/08/2010 02:52:03 AM 927 Views
+1 - 10/08/2010 03:11:22 AM 1230 Views
Article 16 probably not a great example - 10/08/2010 03:44:04 AM 1023 Views
You could just as easily move the emphasis... - 10/08/2010 04:08:46 AM 1170 Views
If we need a more specific resolution... - 10/08/2010 04:22:12 AM 1356 Views
It doesn't say a man can only marry a woman or vice versa, though. - 10/08/2010 04:24:17 AM 1036 Views
It also doesn't say they can - 10/08/2010 04:41:18 AM 1038 Views
You're missing the point. It's not about gay marriage. - 10/08/2010 11:20:59 AM 1053 Views
No, I got that, I'm pointing out how it does so - 10/08/2010 01:47:00 PM 1052 Views
To clarify for you - 10/08/2010 05:36:14 AM 1034 Views
The UNSC is actually the UN's enforcement body... - 10/08/2010 07:16:31 PM 1417 Views
What the UN thinks is *completely* worthless.... - 10/08/2010 06:43:15 PM 978 Views
and the Constitution dictates nothing about marriage. *NM* - 10/08/2010 11:46:24 PM 532 Views
That means it is up to the people. And they say "No." *NM* - 11/08/2010 03:13:12 PM 538 Views
No, but it does dictate things about rights and discrimination - 12/08/2010 03:48:02 PM 1220 Views
The actual ruling on Prop 8 specifices marriage as a freedom, not a right. - 10/08/2010 12:02:17 AM 1147 Views
Out of curiosity, what would you say to using the Ninth Amendment, possibly in conjunction... - 10/08/2010 12:20:19 AM 1208 Views
I agree - 10/08/2010 06:11:19 PM 904 Views
Yeah but this can't be used to prove that it IS a right... - 10/08/2010 07:30:57 PM 1303 Views
Note it all you want... - 10/08/2010 06:43:53 AM 904 Views
The best one yet. - 10/08/2010 07:59:17 PM 1158 Views
Yeah, I'd agree that's pretty insane - 10/08/2010 08:49:24 PM 1027 Views
Re: Yeah, I'd agree that's pretty insane - 10/08/2010 09:03:11 PM 1134 Views
Re: Yeah, I'd agree that's pretty insane - 11/08/2010 04:35:03 PM 1037 Views
Re: Yeah, I'd agree that's pretty insane - 11/08/2010 04:41:23 PM 1172 Views
Hmm - been a long time since I read my copy of the graphic novel - 11/08/2010 05:06:47 PM 1143 Views
Re: Hmm - been a long time since I read my copy of the graphic novel - 11/08/2010 05:09:23 PM 1090 Views

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