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Did I say there was anything? Isaac Send a noteboard - 09/08/2010 11:03:10 AM
The question is a mental exercise, justify gay marriage without using an argument that could just as easily apply to polygamy or incest, or alternatively, justify marriage between a man and a women where that particular union can't reasonably expect to produce offspring in a fashion that wouldn't equally apply to gays or incestuous unions, hence the reference to procreation. The primary point being of course that most of the arguments for or against gay marriage can apply to deny other standard unions or permit ones not currently allowed. Hence the question "can anyone justify gay marriage without justifying polygamy or incest and without mentioning procreation or two?"
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Let's ban all Christian Marriage. - 07/08/2010 06:36:13 AM 1665 Views
Nice satire, but it raises another point for me. - 07/08/2010 07:20:49 AM 1064 Views
One small problem... - 07/08/2010 08:02:34 AM 1088 Views
Re tax. - 07/08/2010 08:47:22 AM 1129 Views
That seems sensible to me. - 09/08/2010 08:13:26 PM 1011 Views
Not sure what you mean by "demoted." - 07/08/2010 03:50:02 PM 1155 Views
Nice. *NM* - 07/08/2010 08:58:20 AM 629 Views
That would only be appropriate if Christians wanted to ban secular unions of normal people. - 07/08/2010 11:51:29 AM 1326 Views
Hey, look! There was a point over there! - 07/08/2010 03:46:41 PM 1114 Views
Who else should make those decisions? - 07/08/2010 08:00:39 PM 1076 Views
I'd totally... - 08/08/2010 04:14:15 AM 1013 Views
I'd totally... - 08/08/2010 06:17:30 AM 1167 Views
You'd defend this idiot? *NM* - 08/08/2010 06:40:34 AM 519 Views
Indeed - 08/08/2010 06:43:53 AM 1098 Views
I used to think Joel was the biggest rambler on this site. I am seriously reconsidering. - 08/08/2010 05:24:56 AM 1105 Views
And my assessment of one poster as the most content-poor, non-contributing slug is unchanged - 08/08/2010 07:17:02 PM 1012 Views
Um, ok. *NM* - 10/08/2010 12:48:19 AM 519 Views
*Shakes Head* - 08/08/2010 06:23:47 AM 974 Views
I highly doubt Cannoli is "scared" of homosexuals *NM* - 08/08/2010 06:29:54 AM 553 Views
Perhaps not in the physical sense. - 08/08/2010 06:35:53 AM 1073 Views
Re: Perhaps not in the physical sense. - 08/08/2010 06:46:56 AM 1032 Views
Gah! You did that on purpose! - 09/08/2010 01:05:13 AM 987 Views
whoops *NM* - 09/08/2010 02:22:49 AM 473 Views
Re: *Shakes Head* - 08/08/2010 07:43:11 PM 1022 Views
This must be the "thought out reaction" I've heard so much about. - 08/08/2010 10:45:59 PM 965 Views
You cannot be that stupid. - 11/08/2010 03:10:55 PM 1246 Views
Incorrect. Genders are not treated equally. - 11/08/2010 07:53:00 PM 1351 Views
all you need is enough support to pass an amendment - 08/08/2010 02:46:08 PM 956 Views
A lot of the arguments would seem to justify polygamy and incest too - 08/08/2010 11:51:24 PM 995 Views
And what is wrong with polygamy? *NM* - 09/08/2010 10:36:53 AM 525 Views
Did I say there was anything? - 09/08/2010 11:03:10 AM 1110 Views
Plolygamy and incest are not on the same level of bad. - 09/08/2010 11:00:07 AM 1054 Views
Is that assumption valid? - 09/08/2010 11:36:26 AM 983 Views
Re: Is that assumption valid? - 09/08/2010 11:46:42 AM 968 Views
Re: Is that assumption valid? - 09/08/2010 12:07:22 PM 1077 Views
Not really - 09/08/2010 01:20:46 PM 943 Views
Re: Not really - 09/08/2010 01:27:04 PM 1074 Views
Re: Not really - 09/08/2010 02:14:43 PM 942 Views
Re: Not really - 09/08/2010 03:06:31 PM 1118 Views
Spoken like someone who does not have to insure an employee's six wives. - 11/08/2010 03:11:57 PM 1107 Views
... - 11/08/2010 03:22:50 PM 1014 Views
Mmm, but when you're strictly discussing marriage - 09/08/2010 06:13:30 PM 1125 Views
Re: Mmm, but when you're strictly discussing marriage - 10/08/2010 01:24:06 AM 930 Views
Now I think about it, I'm not sure. - 10/08/2010 04:09:43 PM 1055 Views
Re: Now I think about it, I'm not sure. - 10/08/2010 06:12:39 PM 934 Views
Great post Danny - 09/08/2010 08:22:27 PM 817 Views
It should be noted again... - 09/08/2010 08:59:32 PM 1102 Views
and how is it not a right? - 09/08/2010 09:19:12 PM 980 Views
My definition of rights... - 09/08/2010 10:47:16 PM 1101 Views
mmm, but the UN has legally stated marriage as a right. - 10/08/2010 02:52:03 AM 865 Views
+1 - 10/08/2010 03:11:22 AM 1148 Views
Article 16 probably not a great example - 10/08/2010 03:44:04 AM 956 Views
You could just as easily move the emphasis... - 10/08/2010 04:08:46 AM 1098 Views
If we need a more specific resolution... - 10/08/2010 04:22:12 AM 1280 Views
It doesn't say a man can only marry a woman or vice versa, though. - 10/08/2010 04:24:17 AM 976 Views
It also doesn't say they can - 10/08/2010 04:41:18 AM 967 Views
You're missing the point. It's not about gay marriage. - 10/08/2010 11:20:59 AM 981 Views
No, I got that, I'm pointing out how it does so - 10/08/2010 01:47:00 PM 980 Views
To clarify for you - 10/08/2010 05:36:14 AM 948 Views
The UNSC is actually the UN's enforcement body... - 10/08/2010 07:16:31 PM 1340 Views
What the UN thinks is *completely* worthless.... - 10/08/2010 06:43:15 PM 906 Views
and the Constitution dictates nothing about marriage. *NM* - 10/08/2010 11:46:24 PM 501 Views
That means it is up to the people. And they say "No." *NM* - 11/08/2010 03:13:12 PM 506 Views
No, but it does dictate things about rights and discrimination - 12/08/2010 03:48:02 PM 1146 Views
The actual ruling on Prop 8 specifices marriage as a freedom, not a right. - 10/08/2010 12:02:17 AM 1069 Views
Out of curiosity, what would you say to using the Ninth Amendment, possibly in conjunction... - 10/08/2010 12:20:19 AM 1141 Views
I agree - 10/08/2010 06:11:19 PM 835 Views
Yeah but this can't be used to prove that it IS a right... - 10/08/2010 07:30:57 PM 1209 Views
Note it all you want... - 10/08/2010 06:43:53 AM 832 Views
The best one yet. - 10/08/2010 07:59:17 PM 1090 Views
Yeah, I'd agree that's pretty insane - 10/08/2010 08:49:24 PM 951 Views
Re: Yeah, I'd agree that's pretty insane - 10/08/2010 09:03:11 PM 1063 Views
Re: Yeah, I'd agree that's pretty insane - 11/08/2010 04:35:03 PM 953 Views
Re: Yeah, I'd agree that's pretty insane - 11/08/2010 04:41:23 PM 1097 Views
Hmm - been a long time since I read my copy of the graphic novel - 11/08/2010 05:06:47 PM 1073 Views
Re: Hmm - been a long time since I read my copy of the graphic novel - 11/08/2010 05:09:23 PM 1024 Views

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