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Work Visas might help, but... Isaac Send a noteboard - 16/08/2010 06:51:11 PM
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I do like the idea of pathways for citizenship and work programs, I don't like a porous border, I'm not sure why a fence bugs people so much, it's a border, fences are actually pretty normal features of borders in other countries. We can actually do both, fences aren't expensive

So the other thing is also, are their enough jobs for these visas, who gets them, etc? There will still be plenty of people wanting to come over, or simply remain afterwards, singular magic fixes won't help, though a fence certainly will cut down one avenue, so would enforcing deportation a bit more. Also, what about a 5 year work visa where someone has a kid, quite likely, we gonna boot the whole family? Or does the magic fix just become 'get visa, go up to US, have child, remain forever'.
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At what point does it become ok to take over a country? - 16/08/2010 04:25:09 PM 1286 Views
why would we want to make Mexico our problem? *NM* - 16/08/2010 04:30:48 PM 352 Views
Well, generally it's no longer seen as acceptable. - 16/08/2010 04:38:11 PM 923 Views
Revolución! *NM* - 16/08/2010 04:47:55 PM 329 Views
When it spills your pint and eyes up your woman? - 16/08/2010 04:53:29 PM 797 Views
When they get on your nerves or have something you want, preferably both - 16/08/2010 05:04:10 PM 817 Views
I agree we should attack Canada instead - 16/08/2010 05:19:48 PM 813 Views
I would legalize drugs ten times over before I would annex Mexico. - 16/08/2010 05:36:37 PM 885 Views
that sounds like a much better immigration solution idea than "let's build a GIGANTIC FENCE!!!" *NM* - 16/08/2010 06:33:46 PM 336 Views
Lol that rates right up there with the bridge to nowhere *NM* - 16/08/2010 06:49:19 PM 348 Views
Work Visas might help, but... - 16/08/2010 06:51:11 PM 1010 Views
Oh i know it's not a complete solution and i have no problem with a fence - 16/08/2010 07:43:26 PM 751 Views
Just so long as we're both on the 'multi-front solution' page - 16/08/2010 08:35:06 PM 660 Views
it's also worth noting that no one is proposing throwing out the Cubans - 16/08/2010 08:54:46 PM 810 Views
west point? *NM* - 16/08/2010 08:56:58 PM 302 Views
Well take over and intervene are two totally different things - 16/08/2010 09:00:50 PM 1016 Views
never *NM* - 16/08/2010 09:05:03 PM 334 Views
Not even Hitler's Germany? (if he never went to war but just stayed put) Reply to Yuna *NM* - 16/08/2010 09:24:41 PM 422 Views
If he had never gone to war, that would also have meant no Holocaust... *NM* - 16/08/2010 09:28:16 PM 327 Views
Dachau opened in '33, Nuremburg Laws were '35 - 16/08/2010 09:36:59 PM 744 Views
Ok that's what I was thinking - 16/08/2010 09:45:51 PM 780 Views
Uh, yeah, see, there's a difference between "blaming" and "exterminating". - 16/08/2010 09:52:37 PM 789 Views
Re: Uh, yeah, see, there's a difference between "blaming" and "exterminating". - 16/08/2010 09:54:29 PM 728 Views
I don't know if there's really anything to specifically compare it to... - 16/08/2010 10:00:59 PM 896 Views
Also, perhaps someone should just invoke the (variation of the) Godwin Law and stop this whole thing - 16/08/2010 10:02:23 PM 796 Views
Ah, - 16/08/2010 10:04:39 PM 710 Views
I second the motion to invoke Godwin's Law for closure... - 16/08/2010 10:11:22 PM 845 Views
Perhaps - 16/08/2010 09:46:55 PM 702 Views
Well, you'll note I didn't make that causal relation you attribute to me. - 16/08/2010 09:55:39 PM 836 Views
The Dachau follow up was bookkeeping - 16/08/2010 10:05:35 PM 779 Views
The US already took half of Mexico, so why not the other half? - 16/08/2010 09:57:56 PM 830 Views
"Took" is an unfriendly word, we purchased it *NM* - 16/08/2010 10:21:58 PM 341 Views
yes after a messy political and physical "conflict" - 16/08/2010 10:53:22 PM 798 Views
There was also the Gasdsen Purchase - 17/08/2010 12:30:21 AM 745 Views
The Gadsden Purchase was a pittance and an afterthought, as I'm sure you're aware. - 18/08/2010 12:36:24 PM 663 Views
It is fairly large, but yes - 18/08/2010 02:21:25 PM 741 Views
Well, yes, it WAS a purchase, but then, it would be. - 18/08/2010 03:22:23 PM 1185 Views
and why did it belong to Mexico to begin with? *NM* - 17/08/2010 01:28:28 AM 365 Views
same way it seems to be the way most people who own the Americas came to own it. - 17/08/2010 01:46:49 AM 619 Views
At least we took the time to conquer it - 18/08/2010 05:20:57 PM 968 Views
well they were not using it *NM* - 17/08/2010 01:27:47 AM 315 Views
Once you solved all your own problems, I'm sure. *NM* - 16/08/2010 10:58:28 PM 330 Views
We should seal our border and peform drone strikes on cartels. - 17/08/2010 12:58:37 AM 645 Views
Re: We should seal our border and peform drone strikes on cartels. - 17/08/2010 02:39:11 AM 714 Views
Re: We should seal our border and peform drone strikes on cartels. - 17/08/2010 03:34:59 AM 880 Views
I think maybe we've had enough of nation building for a while *NM* - 17/08/2010 02:45:22 AM 317 Views

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