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Yes and no Roland00 Send a noteboard - 13/10/2010 06:53:26 PM
While their is data on people that attempted suicide and the connection with bullying, to my knowledge their is no rigorous scientific study that asked a person before they committed suicide if they are gay/bi/queer/questioning/whatever and whether they were bullied. I bet you can understand why the later is hard to prove ;)

As for studies right in front of me, do I have the studies and links in front of me that I can add to the discussion, no I do not. I ain't going to waste my time looking for them, for while they do exist, I don't believe they really add to the discussion. There are multiple problems with these social science studies, for example on the wikipedia link different studies had the gay male suicide rates with different results by a factor six. Furthermore as the wikipedia link I posted in response to nossy showed what is applicable to the general population is not applicable to specific groups for black gay men have a suicide rate that increases when they get older instead of decreases (in other words culture matters.) Finally there is no definite answer on how much the population is gay, bi, trans, etc.

Thus in sum these social science studies prove nothing. They may introduce what is possible a casual link, but they prove nothing. That said I think it is safe to say both sides of the discussion probably assume bullying of gay people or people perceived as different leads to a greater risk of suicide.

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Another thing most young teenagers aren't a 100% sure of their sexuality and how to define it, even if they are 100% sure about all the details doesn't mean they want to communicate it to the survey taker (or even know how to translate the thoughts into words) and most social science studies address this.
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Love the Sinner - 13/10/2010 04:07:28 PM 1411 Views
I have to think about that for a while. - 13/10/2010 04:30:56 PM 974 Views
Suicide is significantly higher in young gay populations - 13/10/2010 05:36:01 PM 889 Views
That is not what I think requires thought - 13/10/2010 05:56:06 PM 899 Views
Nossy I ain't a mind reader, no matter how I try or how much I would do Jean Grey - 13/10/2010 06:06:42 PM 1040 Views
for ze record - 14/10/2010 02:54:07 AM 906 Views
ok now show that it caused by what Christian beliefs *NM* - 13/10/2010 06:50:32 PM 434 Views
I don't think it's the belief's themselves - 14/10/2010 12:20:01 AM 917 Views
The churches who encourage people to bully gays should be condemned - 14/10/2010 06:43:06 PM 927 Views
Re: I have to think about that for a while. - 13/10/2010 06:29:09 PM 905 Views
He was very frank but completely founded - 13/10/2010 04:34:46 PM 1023 Views
Ah, that Ghandi quote sure does get around. (which is funny, since he wasn't a Christian) - 13/10/2010 05:07:42 PM 1001 Views
I'm not sure that is true - 13/10/2010 05:16:30 PM 888 Views
I think you are missing his point - 13/10/2010 05:45:45 PM 1003 Views
Question (and this one actually is asking for information )... - 13/10/2010 06:42:17 PM 790 Views
Yes and no - 13/10/2010 06:53:26 PM 1077 Views
Okay, fair enough. *NM* - 13/10/2010 07:48:21 PM 408 Views
I would think... - 14/10/2010 04:35:31 AM 950 Views
I have seen gays be bullied before - 13/10/2010 07:02:35 PM 1003 Views
You just didn't listen to a thing I said *NM* - 13/10/2010 07:09:29 PM 420 Views
I think there's truth in this as well. - 13/10/2010 07:55:00 PM 935 Views
churches tend to refelect society as much if not more then they influence it - 14/10/2010 07:15:35 PM 901 Views
Re: I think you are missing his point - 13/10/2010 08:30:42 PM 959 Views
Re: I think you are missing his point - 13/10/2010 09:55:52 PM 975 Views
Re: I think you are missing his point - 14/10/2010 03:49:14 PM 994 Views
Actually you can very much debate whether homosexuality is a sin on a textual level - 14/10/2010 05:49:22 PM 1014 Views
Re: Actually you can very much debate whether homosexuality is a sin on a textual level - 14/10/2010 08:52:24 PM 1026 Views
Do you know greek or hebrew? - 14/10/2010 08:57:32 PM 875 Views
I know a few words here and there, but not really. Do you? - 14/10/2010 10:46:36 PM 1014 Views
I don't look to Christianity for my answers - 15/10/2010 03:02:16 PM 972 Views
Re: I don't look to Christianity for my answers - 15/10/2010 04:27:25 PM 1016 Views
You're kind of sidestepping a large part of his point - 13/10/2010 05:51:53 PM 1045 Views
so should Christians abandon other religious conviction to stop bullying? - 13/10/2010 07:39:54 PM 918 Views
Re: You're kind of sidestepping a large part of his point - 13/10/2010 08:23:07 PM 939 Views
That seems a little myopic to me. - 14/10/2010 09:16:27 AM 903 Views
I think he is jackass that does not believe other's can have apoint of view - 13/10/2010 06:48:12 PM 910 Views
That's right, bullying would go away if we didn't have Christians to make moral judgements on things - 13/10/2010 08:11:27 PM 997 Views
I mostly agree - 13/10/2010 08:19:00 PM 1066 Views
most of the bullies I remember from school were not known for their regular church attendance - 14/10/2010 07:24:06 PM 878 Views
I thought I pretty much agreed with you on that point - 14/10/2010 07:44:07 PM 937 Views
Interesting - 13/10/2010 08:56:46 PM 1246 Views
Sometime rants do work and change people's mind - 13/10/2010 09:23:39 PM 878 Views
and sometoimes they are just rants *NM* - 13/10/2010 10:01:55 PM 371 Views
Okay my response now - 14/10/2010 06:04:02 PM 964 Views
He becomes what he hates. - 14/10/2010 02:40:19 AM 1119 Views
Good stuff. *NM* - 14/10/2010 02:56:44 AM 392 Views
Re: - 14/10/2010 03:06:36 AM 971 Views
I think Chora has dibs on that bumper sticker. - 14/10/2010 09:35:02 AM 1050 Views
Re: - 14/10/2010 11:50:04 PM 1044 Views
It's nothing at all like cultural relativism. - 15/10/2010 01:16:10 AM 934 Views
Re: It's nothing at all like cultural relativism. - 16/10/2010 05:20:56 AM 1000 Views
Re: It's nothing at all like cultural relativism. - 16/10/2010 07:16:21 AM 925 Views
I don't think there is any question... - 14/10/2010 04:42:45 AM 936 Views
If I may quibble: - 14/10/2010 05:22:22 AM 791 Views
He's bullying Christians - 14/10/2010 04:47:13 AM 920 Views
I agree - 14/10/2010 04:09:23 PM 999 Views
Two seperate things are mingled here - 14/10/2010 09:50:42 AM 1135 Views

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