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I mostly agree ironclad Send a noteboard - 13/10/2010 08:19:00 PM
Because most bullies do so because the object of their harassment is violating scripture. In fact some of the people who bullied me as a child carried around bibles with them to point out the specific passages I was violating by being shy and having poor fashion sense. I'm sure their parents spent a lot of time at the dinner table every night telling them why they should hate shy people for being subhuman, and their preachers shouted it from the pulpit ever Sunday. Damn Christians and their making people like me into subjects of daily mockery and harassment.

Oh wait, I was bullied because I was different and thus seemed weird to other kids. You know, kinda like how gay kids are different, both in their nature (who they are attracted to) and in their behavior (in some cases). Thus, they have big targets hung on them for bullies. Just like kids like me did, or kids with big ears that stick out, or fat kids or any number of other kids.

Kids are a tough crowd. Even if a preacher or their parents don't tell them something is bad, heck, even if said preacher/parents tell them that such a thing is NOT bad and to be nice, most of the time they'll sniff it out anyway and mock it as they see fit. Kids can be nasty shits.

With all of the above.

But no, being against a particular legal issue means that you see gays as subhumans, which means that you will pass those beliefs onto your kids and turn them into little klansmen, which means that your kids will become merciless bullies, which means that they will drive gay kids to kill themselves. If you are against gay marriage, you are causing the deaths of gay kids. Fact.

However, I do believe that "the little clansmen" thing happens a lot in fanatically religious families. Whether or not those are the kids that end up bullying gays (or other outsiders) is a statistic that's probably impossible to prove, though.
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Love the Sinner - 13/10/2010 04:07:28 PM 1384 Views
I have to think about that for a while. - 13/10/2010 04:30:56 PM 945 Views
Suicide is significantly higher in young gay populations - 13/10/2010 05:36:01 PM 861 Views
That is not what I think requires thought - 13/10/2010 05:56:06 PM 871 Views
Nossy I ain't a mind reader, no matter how I try or how much I would do Jean Grey - 13/10/2010 06:06:42 PM 1017 Views
for ze record - 14/10/2010 02:54:07 AM 876 Views
ok now show that it caused by what Christian beliefs *NM* - 13/10/2010 06:50:32 PM 424 Views
I don't think it's the belief's themselves - 14/10/2010 12:20:01 AM 891 Views
The churches who encourage people to bully gays should be condemned - 14/10/2010 06:43:06 PM 898 Views
Re: I have to think about that for a while. - 13/10/2010 06:29:09 PM 881 Views
He was very frank but completely founded - 13/10/2010 04:34:46 PM 981 Views
Ah, that Ghandi quote sure does get around. (which is funny, since he wasn't a Christian) - 13/10/2010 05:07:42 PM 977 Views
I'm not sure that is true - 13/10/2010 05:16:30 PM 858 Views
I think you are missing his point - 13/10/2010 05:45:45 PM 946 Views
Question (and this one actually is asking for information )... - 13/10/2010 06:42:17 PM 765 Views
Yes and no - 13/10/2010 06:53:26 PM 1047 Views
Okay, fair enough. *NM* - 13/10/2010 07:48:21 PM 385 Views
I would think... - 14/10/2010 04:35:31 AM 923 Views
I have seen gays be bullied before - 13/10/2010 07:02:35 PM 973 Views
You just didn't listen to a thing I said *NM* - 13/10/2010 07:09:29 PM 404 Views
I think there's truth in this as well. - 13/10/2010 07:55:00 PM 902 Views
churches tend to refelect society as much if not more then they influence it - 14/10/2010 07:15:35 PM 869 Views
Re: I think you are missing his point - 13/10/2010 08:30:42 PM 932 Views
Re: I think you are missing his point - 13/10/2010 09:55:52 PM 945 Views
Re: I think you are missing his point - 14/10/2010 03:49:14 PM 957 Views
Actually you can very much debate whether homosexuality is a sin on a textual level - 14/10/2010 05:49:22 PM 979 Views
Re: Actually you can very much debate whether homosexuality is a sin on a textual level - 14/10/2010 08:52:24 PM 998 Views
Do you know greek or hebrew? - 14/10/2010 08:57:32 PM 843 Views
I know a few words here and there, but not really. Do you? - 14/10/2010 10:46:36 PM 977 Views
I don't look to Christianity for my answers - 15/10/2010 03:02:16 PM 944 Views
Re: I don't look to Christianity for my answers - 15/10/2010 04:27:25 PM 984 Views
You're kind of sidestepping a large part of his point - 13/10/2010 05:51:53 PM 1009 Views
so should Christians abandon other religious conviction to stop bullying? - 13/10/2010 07:39:54 PM 890 Views
Re: You're kind of sidestepping a large part of his point - 13/10/2010 08:23:07 PM 914 Views
That seems a little myopic to me. - 14/10/2010 09:16:27 AM 874 Views
I think he is jackass that does not believe other's can have apoint of view - 13/10/2010 06:48:12 PM 877 Views
That's right, bullying would go away if we didn't have Christians to make moral judgements on things - 13/10/2010 08:11:27 PM 964 Views
I mostly agree - 13/10/2010 08:19:00 PM 1042 Views
most of the bullies I remember from school were not known for their regular church attendance - 14/10/2010 07:24:06 PM 851 Views
I thought I pretty much agreed with you on that point - 14/10/2010 07:44:07 PM 900 Views
Interesting - 13/10/2010 08:56:46 PM 1210 Views
Sometime rants do work and change people's mind - 13/10/2010 09:23:39 PM 833 Views
and sometoimes they are just rants *NM* - 13/10/2010 10:01:55 PM 360 Views
Okay my response now - 14/10/2010 06:04:02 PM 933 Views
He becomes what he hates. - 14/10/2010 02:40:19 AM 1090 Views
Good stuff. *NM* - 14/10/2010 02:56:44 AM 380 Views
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I think Chora has dibs on that bumper sticker. - 14/10/2010 09:35:02 AM 1021 Views
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It's nothing at all like cultural relativism. - 15/10/2010 01:16:10 AM 894 Views
Re: It's nothing at all like cultural relativism. - 16/10/2010 05:20:56 AM 968 Views
Re: It's nothing at all like cultural relativism. - 16/10/2010 07:16:21 AM 890 Views
I don't think there is any question... - 14/10/2010 04:42:45 AM 903 Views
If I may quibble: - 14/10/2010 05:22:22 AM 767 Views
He's bullying Christians - 14/10/2010 04:47:13 AM 887 Views
I agree - 14/10/2010 04:09:23 PM 966 Views
Two seperate things are mingled here - 14/10/2010 09:50:42 AM 1103 Views

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