Active Users:757 Time:15/09/2026 05:10:38 PM
Back to Messageboard Post New Thread Search Help Stats Rules
Let me see if I can understand where we agree, it is hard to do with all the Sarcasm Roland00 Send a noteboard - 13/10/2010 08:48:38 PM
(note on this response I am going to refer to kids often as monkeys)

We agree on these points
1) Kids (Monkeys) are dumb, they will bully people they think are different even if they don't understand why they are different (such as understanding scripture and church doctrine.) Why doesn't matter, the fact that bullying occur does matter
2) Kids (Monkeys) are cruel SoBs.

We disagree on these points
1) You reject the argument of Monkey See Monkey Do? Monkey sees Parents do X, you reject this for Monkey doesn't always does what Monkey sees.
2) You reject the argument that attempts via authority figures to stop bullying, as well as discipline via the authority figures; actually does stop most bullying.
Reply to message
Love the Sinner Roland00 - 13/10/2010 04:07:28 PM 1455 Views
I have to think about that for a while. nossy - 13/10/2010 04:30:56 PM 1020 Views
Suicide is significantly higher in young gay populations Roland00 - 13/10/2010 05:36:01 PM 934 Views
That is not what I think requires thought nossy - 13/10/2010 05:56:06 PM 958 Views
Nossy I ain't a mind reader, no matter how I try or how much I would do Jean Grey Roland00 - 13/10/2010 06:06:42 PM 1085 Views
for ze record nossy - 14/10/2010 02:54:07 AM 982 Views
ok now show that it caused by what Christian beliefs *NM* random thoughts - 13/10/2010 06:50:32 PM 462 Views
I don't think it's the belief's themselves LadyLorraine - 14/10/2010 12:20:01 AM 976 Views
The churches who encourage people to bully gays should be condemned random thoughts - 14/10/2010 06:43:06 PM 990 Views
Re: I have to think about that for a while. Rebekah - 13/10/2010 06:29:09 PM 944 Views
He was very frank but completely founded Fox and Ravens - 13/10/2010 04:34:46 PM 1069 Views
Ah, that Ghandi quote sure does get around. (which is funny, since he wasn't a Christian) Zalis - 13/10/2010 05:07:42 PM 1052 Views
I'm not sure that is true snoopcester - 13/10/2010 05:16:30 PM 936 Views
When's the last time you heard the quote attributed to anyone else? Zalis - 13/10/2010 08:34:10 PM 913 Views
That many people don't know the correct origin doesn't change it though snoopcester - 13/10/2010 09:31:13 PM 1060 Views
I think you are missing his point Roland00 - 13/10/2010 05:45:45 PM 1047 Views
Question (and this one actually is asking for information )... Legolas - 13/10/2010 06:42:17 PM 836 Views
Yes and no Roland00 - 13/10/2010 06:53:26 PM 1129 Views
Okay, fair enough. *NM* Legolas - 13/10/2010 07:48:21 PM 439 Views
I would think... damookster - 14/10/2010 04:35:31 AM 1002 Views
I have seen gays be bullied before random thoughts - 13/10/2010 07:02:35 PM 1058 Views
You just didn't listen to a thing I said *NM* Roland00 - 13/10/2010 07:09:29 PM 448 Views
why do you believe that? Because I don't agree with what you said? random thoughts - 13/10/2010 07:30:27 PM 964 Views
I said you aren't listening to a thing I said, for you didn't respond to anything that I wrote Roland00 - 13/10/2010 07:52:50 PM 970 Views
you are not interested in talking to anyone who doesn't agree with you random thoughts - 13/10/2010 09:01:03 PM 945 Views
I think there's truth in this as well. Legolas - 13/10/2010 07:55:00 PM 976 Views
churches tend to refelect society as much if not more then they influence it random thoughts - 14/10/2010 07:15:35 PM 947 Views
Re: I think you are missing his point Zalis - 13/10/2010 08:30:42 PM 1016 Views
Re: I think you are missing his point Roland00 - 13/10/2010 09:55:52 PM 1030 Views
Re: I think you are missing his point Zalis - 14/10/2010 03:49:14 PM 1042 Views
Actually you can very much debate whether homosexuality is a sin on a textual level Roland00 - 14/10/2010 05:49:22 PM 1059 Views
Re: Actually you can very much debate whether homosexuality is a sin on a textual level Zalis - 14/10/2010 08:52:24 PM 1080 Views
Do you know greek or hebrew? Roland00 - 14/10/2010 08:57:32 PM 933 Views
I know a few words here and there, but not really. Do you? Zalis - 14/10/2010 10:46:36 PM 1069 Views
There's a good case on both sides (try Strong's Concordance, if you haven't, btw. ) Joel - 15/10/2010 05:09:21 AM 1510 Views
I don't look to Christianity for my answers Roland00 - 15/10/2010 03:02:16 PM 1022 Views
Re: I don't look to Christianity for my answers Zalis - 15/10/2010 04:27:25 PM 1073 Views
You're kind of sidestepping a large part of his point Rowland - 13/10/2010 05:51:53 PM 1087 Views
so should Christians abandon other religious conviction to stop bullying? random thoughts - 13/10/2010 07:39:54 PM 964 Views
Re: You're kind of sidestepping a large part of his point Zalis - 13/10/2010 08:23:07 PM 983 Views
That seems a little myopic to me. Joel - 14/10/2010 09:16:27 AM 953 Views
Many good points there; I think I'll let you play Defender of the Faith for a bit. Joel - 14/10/2010 08:50:23 AM 1078 Views
I think he is jackass that does not believe other's can have apoint of view random thoughts - 13/10/2010 06:48:12 PM 954 Views
That's right, bullying would go away if we didn't have Christians to make moral judgements on things ßelals Girl - 13/10/2010 08:11:27 PM 1052 Views
I mostly agree ironclad - 13/10/2010 08:19:00 PM 1120 Views
most of the bullies I remember from school were not known for their regular church attendance random thoughts - 14/10/2010 07:24:06 PM 940 Views
I thought I pretty much agreed with you on that point ironclad - 14/10/2010 07:44:07 PM 979 Views
Let me see if I can understand where we agree, it is hard to do with all the Sarcasm Roland00 - 13/10/2010 08:48:38 PM 1011 Views
Meh. He's not entirely incorrect. But not all Christians are anti-gay. Ghavrel - 13/10/2010 08:43:04 PM 1011 Views
It is better to be a Tolkein than a Token Roland00 - 13/10/2010 08:52:09 PM 967 Views
If I were a Tolkien liberal Christian, wouldn't that make me an American Roman Catholic? *NM* Ghavrel - 13/10/2010 09:18:57 PM 397 Views
Interesting scalius - 13/10/2010 08:56:46 PM 1306 Views
Sometime rants do work and change people's mind Roland00 - 13/10/2010 09:23:39 PM 931 Views
and sometoimes they are just rants *NM* random thoughts - 13/10/2010 10:01:55 PM 414 Views
Okay my response now Roland00 - 14/10/2010 06:04:02 PM 1010 Views
His first three sentences were totally unecessary. The rest is conspiracy-laden nonsense. everynametaken - 14/10/2010 12:37:06 AM 1082 Views
He becomes what he hates. eucatastrophe - 14/10/2010 02:40:19 AM 1163 Views
Good stuff. *NM* Aeryn - 14/10/2010 02:56:44 AM 419 Views
Re: Gaps - 14/10/2010 03:06:36 AM 1044 Views
I think Chora has dibs on that bumper sticker. Joel - 14/10/2010 09:35:02 AM 1100 Views
Re: Gaps - 14/10/2010 11:50:04 PM 1093 Views
It's nothing at all like cultural relativism. Joel - 15/10/2010 01:16:10 AM 979 Views
Re: It's nothing at all like cultural relativism. Gaps - 16/10/2010 05:20:56 AM 1047 Views
Re: It's nothing at all like cultural relativism. Joel - 16/10/2010 07:16:21 AM 974 Views
I don't think there is any question... damookster - 14/10/2010 04:42:45 AM 981 Views
If I may quibble: Ghavrel - 14/10/2010 05:22:22 AM 840 Views
A lot of Christian doctrine states that people cannot know who is worthy of God and it's not up to Helene - 14/10/2010 05:41:19 AM 984 Views
And a lot of Christians who should know better forget this. Joel - 14/10/2010 10:16:51 AM 1037 Views
He's bullying Christians Helene - 14/10/2010 04:47:13 AM 973 Views
I agree BlackAdder - 14/10/2010 04:09:23 PM 1047 Views
I think he's reading a lot of things into that letter that aren't there. Joel - 14/10/2010 08:22:13 AM 940 Views
Two seperate things are mingled here Bramhodoulos - 14/10/2010 09:50:42 AM 1186 Views
Back to Messageboard Post New Thread Search Help Stats Rules

Reply to Message

Block Quote Paragraph Quote
Formatting
Smiley Codes