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not that is exactly it random thoughts Send a noteboard - 14/09/2009 11:10:52 PM
It was a short article that simply stated what both sides believe. Could it have been better written? I am sure it could have but it is hardly an example of laughable journalism.

The writer was working with limited space and I would imagine limit time. He simply presented views from both sides without any attempt to defend or explain them.

I see you quibbled over using the words "proven theory". You stated their argument were invalid, I assume because you didn’t like the use of proven and theory. You forget two points, it isn’t the writer’s argument and you are quibbling about semantics. If they had simply stated that evolution was an unproven theory I may agree with you but since we don’t even know if there is an supportable theory for the development of the compound eye(which is what that statement referred to) then I think dismissing the article for that wording it unjustified. Supportable theory or valid theory may hav ebeen better words but this waas written for non-science people and the Telegraph is hardly a scietific journal. If you want to find examples of poorly written scienc article you can do way better then this.

Sorry but from I sit it still looks like the canon of evolution to me. I notice that no one actually bothered to refute any of the claims made by creationist outside of your semantics issue.

The old point and laugh so people think we are smart game.
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I can't even believe this. - 13/09/2009 07:40:02 PM 1274 Views
Take a deep breath, close your eyes and go to your happy place. - 13/09/2009 07:43:15 PM 794 Views
Re: Take a deep breath, close your eyes and go to your happy place. - 13/09/2009 10:28:42 PM 896 Views
That is one amazingly stupid article... - 13/09/2009 08:04:47 PM 852 Views
ditto *NM* - 13/09/2009 08:11:45 PM 404 Views
Re: ditto - 13/09/2009 10:01:54 PM 931 Views
wow why a witty and well thought out rebuttal. - 14/09/2009 10:02:14 PM 808 Views
Ugh. Interesting subject, awful article. - 13/09/2009 08:27:15 PM 862 Views
Re: I can't even believe this. - 13/09/2009 09:05:45 PM 810 Views
Re: I can't even believe this. - 13/09/2009 10:33:47 PM 737 Views
I'd agree with you, if... - 13/09/2009 10:36:07 PM 822 Views
*sigh* People bashing other people. - 13/09/2009 10:02:54 PM 873 Views
The author used the phrase "proven theories." Ergo, their argument is invalid. *NM* - 14/09/2009 01:11:51 AM 444 Views
seriously. there's no such thing as a truly proven theory - 14/09/2009 01:52:30 AM 793 Views
Re: definition of "theory" - 14/09/2009 04:49:13 AM 930 Views
Re: definition of "theory" - 14/09/2009 08:56:48 AM 958 Views
I can't really tell - 14/09/2009 08:14:14 PM 852 Views
Re: I think I was agreeing with you, yes *NM* - 15/09/2009 12:37:00 AM 397 Views
Oh, good. I'll let you live. *NM* - 15/09/2009 01:55:49 AM 450 Views
I think you are getting workedup over nothing - 14/09/2009 09:57:22 PM 1002 Views
That's... not exactly it. - 14/09/2009 10:33:02 PM 751 Views
not that is exactly it - 14/09/2009 11:10:52 PM 1006 Views
No, Craig is quite right. - 14/09/2009 11:21:11 PM 810 Views
Heh. You were much more diplomatic about it than I was. *NM* - 14/09/2009 11:24:41 PM 448 Views
No you just happen to wrong with him - 15/09/2009 01:14:16 AM 813 Views
Well, maybe this has to do with your low opinion of the British press... - 15/09/2009 10:51:46 AM 1001 Views
Re: Well, maybe this has to do with your low opinion of the British press... - 15/09/2009 05:32:51 PM 969 Views
To butt in for a second... - 15/09/2009 07:38:05 PM 822 Views
'Fraid not. - 14/09/2009 11:24:00 PM 816 Views
Re: 'Fraid not. - 15/09/2009 01:21:14 AM 793 Views
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Ithat was meant to be an eidt. oh well - 15/09/2009 01:23:36 AM 867 Views
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completely aside from this argument you guys have here... - 15/09/2009 05:02:21 AM 868 Views
Interrupter! - 15/09/2009 06:11:40 AM 788 Views
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One brain C4, coming up... - 15/09/2009 12:00:26 PM 859 Views
Nicely put - 15/09/2009 03:48:42 PM 778 Views
Yes, I know. - 15/09/2009 04:55:22 PM 900 Views
PFt - 15/09/2009 04:56:19 PM 799 Views
Are you telling me I am getting predictable? - 15/09/2009 04:58:59 PM 873 Views
The age of the universe is an important point in the creationist argument - 15/09/2009 05:53:41 PM 865 Views
Exactly. So it was in the wrong column. - 15/09/2009 07:58:15 PM 843 Views
what I think has been lost in the debate is it looks like it will be a good movie - 15/09/2009 08:14:04 PM 877 Views
That, I can agree with. *NM* - 15/09/2009 08:22:44 PM 414 Views
Um. - 14/09/2009 11:28:28 PM 937 Views
LOL - 15/09/2009 09:29:16 PM 894 Views
Really? Because this was a rather atypical debate, honestly. - 15/09/2009 09:43:13 PM 797 Views
Heh. - 15/09/2009 09:54:00 PM 876 Views
Well, I can pretend if you want me to - 15/09/2009 10:07:59 PM 1342 Views
I happen to find it all extremely interesting - 15/09/2009 10:23:19 PM 811 Views
Re: I happen to find it all extremely interesting - 15/09/2009 10:36:14 PM 885 Views
There are some places you can go that discuss the creationist ideas - 15/09/2009 10:58:25 PM 961 Views
Having just been to the Creationist Museum last Monday - 16/09/2009 12:00:12 AM 1105 Views
All hail the Flying Spaghetti Monster! - 16/09/2009 06:03:20 AM 786 Views

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