There are some places you can go that discuss the creationist ideas
random thoughts Send a noteboard - 15/09/2009 10:58:25 PM
The article linked wikicreation and there is also The Creationist Museum website.
To be honest though it is a fairly dead end debate. Creationist tend to find one small piece of information take it out of context and lock onto it. Out of curiosity I have looked at some of their evidence at the majority is either really bad science or misstating other scientist. They do have some interesting theories about conditions in a pre-flood world but you can the same sort of thing in a good scfi book. I watched a video where they were excavating dinosaur tracks and finding human tracks next to them. The problem is that even though I am not a trained paleontologist I am pretty sure you would do such excavations with a bulldozer as they were.
I t does get more interesting though once you get beyond the young earth crowd. Evolution can't work with half a system and every step in the process has to be sustainable and an advantage of the previous step. Evolution very rarely creates new things but instead modifies old things. Evolution is more of a result then a process.
For a snake to bite and poison you it needs four things. Retractable hollow fangs, toxin, glands to pump toxin and the hard wiring in their instinct driven brain to use it the toxins. None of them are of any use without the others and all four them developing in a usable form at once defies reason.
The reality is there is a lot more we don’t understand about evolution then we do understand the fossil record is hard to read and very incomplete in places. I know that in just my life there have been dramatic changes in what we think happened and they were just as sure then as they are now that they were right.
To be honest though it is a fairly dead end debate. Creationist tend to find one small piece of information take it out of context and lock onto it. Out of curiosity I have looked at some of their evidence at the majority is either really bad science or misstating other scientist. They do have some interesting theories about conditions in a pre-flood world but you can the same sort of thing in a good scfi book. I watched a video where they were excavating dinosaur tracks and finding human tracks next to them. The problem is that even though I am not a trained paleontologist I am pretty sure you would do such excavations with a bulldozer as they were.
I t does get more interesting though once you get beyond the young earth crowd. Evolution can't work with half a system and every step in the process has to be sustainable and an advantage of the previous step. Evolution very rarely creates new things but instead modifies old things. Evolution is more of a result then a process.
For a snake to bite and poison you it needs four things. Retractable hollow fangs, toxin, glands to pump toxin and the hard wiring in their instinct driven brain to use it the toxins. None of them are of any use without the others and all four them developing in a usable form at once defies reason.
The reality is there is a lot more we don’t understand about evolution then we do understand the fossil record is hard to read and very incomplete in places. I know that in just my life there have been dramatic changes in what we think happened and they were just as sure then as they are now that they were right.
I can't even believe this.
- 13/09/2009 07:40:02 PM
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Take a deep breath, close your eyes and go to your happy place.
- 13/09/2009 07:43:15 PM
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Re: Take a deep breath, close your eyes and go to your happy place.
- 13/09/2009 10:28:42 PM
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That is one amazingly stupid article...
- 13/09/2009 08:04:47 PM
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The author used the phrase "proven theories." Ergo, their argument is invalid. *NM*
- 14/09/2009 01:11:51 AM
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seriously. there's no such thing as a truly proven theory
- 14/09/2009 01:52:30 AM
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Re: definition of "theory"
- 14/09/2009 04:49:13 AM
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I can't really tell
- 14/09/2009 08:14:14 PM
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I think you are getting workedup over nothing
- 14/09/2009 09:57:22 PM
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That's... not exactly it.
- 14/09/2009 10:33:02 PM
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not that is exactly it
- 14/09/2009 11:10:52 PM
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No, Craig is quite right.
- 14/09/2009 11:21:11 PM
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No you just happen to wrong with him
- 15/09/2009 01:14:16 AM
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Well, maybe this has to do with your low opinion of the British press...
- 15/09/2009 10:51:46 AM
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- 15/09/2009 10:51:46 AM
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Re: Well, maybe this has to do with your low opinion of the British press...
- 15/09/2009 05:32:51 PM
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- 15/09/2009 05:32:51 PM
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'Fraid not.
- 14/09/2009 11:24:00 PM
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It's not, it's supposed to be relatively decent - mainstream conservative newspaper. *NM*
- 14/09/2009 11:28:44 PM
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Re: 'Fraid not.
- 15/09/2009 01:21:14 AM
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- 15/09/2009 02:14:37 AM
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- 15/09/2009 02:14:37 AM
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completely aside from this argument you guys have here...
- 15/09/2009 05:02:21 AM
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Interrupter!
- 15/09/2009 06:11:40 AM
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Re: Interrupter!
- 15/09/2009 06:54:56 AM
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One brain C4, coming up...
- 15/09/2009 12:00:26 PM
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The age of the universe is an important point in the creationist argument
- 15/09/2009 05:53:41 PM
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Exactly. So it was in the wrong column.
- 15/09/2009 07:58:15 PM
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what I think has been lost in the debate is it looks like it will be a good movie
- 15/09/2009 08:14:04 PM
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Um.
- 14/09/2009 11:28:28 PM
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LOL
- 15/09/2009 09:29:16 PM
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Really? Because this was a rather atypical debate, honestly.
- 15/09/2009 09:43:13 PM
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Well, I can pretend if you want me to
- 15/09/2009 10:07:59 PM
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- 15/09/2009 10:07:59 PM
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I happen to find it all extremely interesting
- 15/09/2009 10:23:19 PM
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There are some places you can go that discuss the creationist ideas
- 15/09/2009 10:58:25 PM
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