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Well, I can pretend if you want me to Isaac Send a noteboard - 15/09/2009 10:07:59 PM
For one thing, it's kind of hard to have a typical debate about creationism when there aren't any creationists replying to the thread. :P


I do actually happen to subscribe to Intelligent Design, not really a big 6000 year person, but relativity proves that under the current model their are parts of the universe which are much younger than others, and odds are some of those are 6k.

No, I don't see why any creationist would show up, these days the whole conversation involves some people calling other people stupid. Actual 6k creationists have an unbeatable argument:

I believe in God, I believe the bible was inspired by Him, I believe He is omniscient and omnipotent. Much evidence indicates the world is much older, I believe that science has often been wrong, and I also believe my omniscient and omnipotent super-being is quite capable of making the world in 6 days or 6 seconds and laying whatever evidence is necessary to indicate otherwise. I also think he might have done this just so we could learn science, since we might get stuck at the gate if confronted by a 6k old world manufactured from the void. Presumably, for the same reasons he keeps an eye out for any quantum phenomena that might transmute random heaps of garbage into golden statues of calves or make it rain individually wrapped snickers bars because faith only goes so far. It's hard to get too far with study when random quantum BS or supernatural things inserted in the background. Remarks complete

Not much room to argue with that, other than "I disagree". You also can't really mobilize a verbal offensive off that either, since you could just as easily substitute "Galactic Super Toad" or "Flying Spaghetti Monster" for "the God of Abraham". So you get what we have here, except if some troll shows up to scream about heresy or how God is a manipulative delusion. Essentially a series of arguments revolving around whether or not a journalist's movie review was a piece of crap or not.
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I can't even believe this. - 13/09/2009 07:40:02 PM 1296 Views
Take a deep breath, close your eyes and go to your happy place. - 13/09/2009 07:43:15 PM 819 Views
Re: Take a deep breath, close your eyes and go to your happy place. - 13/09/2009 10:28:42 PM 921 Views
That is one amazingly stupid article... - 13/09/2009 08:04:47 PM 873 Views
ditto *NM* - 13/09/2009 08:11:45 PM 416 Views
Re: ditto - 13/09/2009 10:01:54 PM 952 Views
wow why a witty and well thought out rebuttal. - 14/09/2009 10:02:14 PM 829 Views
Ugh. Interesting subject, awful article. - 13/09/2009 08:27:15 PM 886 Views
Re: I can't even believe this. - 13/09/2009 09:05:45 PM 832 Views
Re: I can't even believe this. - 13/09/2009 10:33:47 PM 760 Views
I'd agree with you, if... - 13/09/2009 10:36:07 PM 847 Views
*sigh* People bashing other people. - 13/09/2009 10:02:54 PM 893 Views
The author used the phrase "proven theories." Ergo, their argument is invalid. *NM* - 14/09/2009 01:11:51 AM 454 Views
seriously. there's no such thing as a truly proven theory - 14/09/2009 01:52:30 AM 815 Views
Re: definition of "theory" - 14/09/2009 04:49:13 AM 953 Views
Re: definition of "theory" - 14/09/2009 08:56:48 AM 980 Views
I can't really tell - 14/09/2009 08:14:14 PM 875 Views
Re: I think I was agreeing with you, yes *NM* - 15/09/2009 12:37:00 AM 411 Views
Oh, good. I'll let you live. *NM* - 15/09/2009 01:55:49 AM 461 Views
I think you are getting workedup over nothing - 14/09/2009 09:57:22 PM 1027 Views
That's... not exactly it. - 14/09/2009 10:33:02 PM 776 Views
not that is exactly it - 14/09/2009 11:10:52 PM 1030 Views
No, Craig is quite right. - 14/09/2009 11:21:11 PM 830 Views
Heh. You were much more diplomatic about it than I was. *NM* - 14/09/2009 11:24:41 PM 458 Views
No you just happen to wrong with him - 15/09/2009 01:14:16 AM 836 Views
Well, maybe this has to do with your low opinion of the British press... - 15/09/2009 10:51:46 AM 1024 Views
Re: Well, maybe this has to do with your low opinion of the British press... - 15/09/2009 05:32:51 PM 988 Views
To butt in for a second... - 15/09/2009 07:38:05 PM 845 Views
'Fraid not. - 14/09/2009 11:24:00 PM 835 Views
Re: 'Fraid not. - 15/09/2009 01:21:14 AM 817 Views
Re: 'Fraid not. - 15/09/2009 01:22:59 AM 1000 Views
Ithat was meant to be an eidt. oh well - 15/09/2009 01:23:36 AM 887 Views
- 15/09/2009 02:14:37 AM 913 Views
completely aside from this argument you guys have here... - 15/09/2009 05:02:21 AM 887 Views
Interrupter! - 15/09/2009 06:11:40 AM 813 Views
Re: Interrupter! - 15/09/2009 06:54:56 AM 915 Views
One brain C4, coming up... - 15/09/2009 12:00:26 PM 886 Views
Nicely put - 15/09/2009 03:48:42 PM 801 Views
Yes, I know. - 15/09/2009 04:55:22 PM 923 Views
PFt - 15/09/2009 04:56:19 PM 824 Views
Are you telling me I am getting predictable? - 15/09/2009 04:58:59 PM 896 Views
The age of the universe is an important point in the creationist argument - 15/09/2009 05:53:41 PM 889 Views
Exactly. So it was in the wrong column. - 15/09/2009 07:58:15 PM 869 Views
what I think has been lost in the debate is it looks like it will be a good movie - 15/09/2009 08:14:04 PM 899 Views
That, I can agree with. *NM* - 15/09/2009 08:22:44 PM 426 Views
Um. - 14/09/2009 11:28:28 PM 955 Views
LOL - 15/09/2009 09:29:16 PM 914 Views
Really? Because this was a rather atypical debate, honestly. - 15/09/2009 09:43:13 PM 818 Views
Heh. - 15/09/2009 09:54:00 PM 899 Views
Well, I can pretend if you want me to - 15/09/2009 10:07:59 PM 1365 Views
I happen to find it all extremely interesting - 15/09/2009 10:23:19 PM 832 Views
Re: I happen to find it all extremely interesting - 15/09/2009 10:36:14 PM 905 Views
There are some places you can go that discuss the creationist ideas - 15/09/2009 10:58:25 PM 991 Views
Having just been to the Creationist Museum last Monday - 16/09/2009 12:00:12 AM 1132 Views
All hail the Flying Spaghetti Monster! - 16/09/2009 06:03:20 AM 812 Views

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