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One brain C4, coming up... jh Send a noteboard - 15/09/2009 12:00:26 PM
Basic relativity says that the speed of light in vacuum is c... something like 299,792,458 metres per second. That is fast. Even faster than those fast going trains in your youth.

Now we get to the complicated bit. the speed of light is constant, and not relative. So if you fire away two photons from the same source in the same direction, and piggy back on one of them, you'd see the other photon travelling at a speed relative to yours which equals c. This has made a lot of physics students get headaches, until they have learned to accept that every observable facts point to it being true.

The statement above is okay in local cases, but might vary due to gravitational influence, so the speed of light might or might not be as stated above.

Now, as the speed of light is finite, it means that pictures taken of really far away objects are also showing images of things which are younger than they are now. nowadays the hubble takes pictures which shows things that are billions of years old. Who knows, maybe they have a picture of your birth somewhere.
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I can't even believe this. Entophile - 13/09/2009 07:40:02 PM 1260 Views
Take a deep breath, close your eyes and go to your happy place. Artsapat - 13/09/2009 07:43:15 PM 782 Views
Re: Take a deep breath, close your eyes and go to your happy place. Entophile - 13/09/2009 10:28:42 PM 881 Views
That is one amazingly stupid article... Legolas - 13/09/2009 08:04:47 PM 836 Views
ditto *NM* LadyLorraine - 13/09/2009 08:11:45 PM 397 Views
Re: ditto Cal Trask - 13/09/2009 10:01:54 PM 919 Views
wow why a witty and well thought out rebuttal. random thoughts - 14/09/2009 10:02:14 PM 795 Views
Ugh. Interesting subject, awful article. nossy - 13/09/2009 08:27:15 PM 847 Views
Re: I can't even believe this. Geniac - 13/09/2009 09:05:45 PM 799 Views
Re: I can't even believe this. Entophile - 13/09/2009 10:33:47 PM 723 Views
I'd agree with you, if... Wibble - 13/09/2009 10:36:07 PM 810 Views
*sigh* People bashing other people. Great Lord of Chaos - 13/09/2009 10:02:54 PM 856 Views
The author used the phrase "proven theories." Ergo, their argument is invalid. *NM* Craig - 14/09/2009 01:11:51 AM 433 Views
seriously. there's no such thing as a truly proven theory LadyLorraine - 14/09/2009 01:52:30 AM 777 Views
Re: definition of "theory" Geniac - 14/09/2009 04:49:13 AM 899 Views
Re: definition of "theory" Entophile - 14/09/2009 08:56:48 AM 938 Views
I can't really tell Craig - 14/09/2009 08:14:14 PM 834 Views
Re: I think I was agreeing with you, yes *NM* Geniac - 15/09/2009 12:37:00 AM 389 Views
Oh, good. I'll let you live. *NM* Craig - 15/09/2009 01:55:49 AM 439 Views
I think you are getting workedup over nothing random thoughts - 14/09/2009 09:57:22 PM 988 Views
That's... not exactly it. Craig - 14/09/2009 10:33:02 PM 737 Views
not that is exactly it random thoughts - 14/09/2009 11:10:52 PM 988 Views
No, Craig is quite right. Legolas - 14/09/2009 11:21:11 PM 794 Views
Heh. You were much more diplomatic about it than I was. *NM* Craig - 14/09/2009 11:24:41 PM 439 Views
No you just happen to wrong with him random thoughts - 15/09/2009 01:14:16 AM 800 Views
Well, maybe this has to do with your low opinion of the British press... Legolas - 15/09/2009 10:51:46 AM 986 Views
Re: Well, maybe this has to do with your low opinion of the British press... random thoughts - 15/09/2009 05:32:51 PM 955 Views
To butt in for a second... Craig - 15/09/2009 07:38:05 PM 808 Views
'Fraid not. Craig - 14/09/2009 11:24:00 PM 802 Views
It's not, it's supposed to be relatively decent - mainstream conservative newspaper. *NM* Legolas - 14/09/2009 11:28:44 PM 403 Views
Re: 'Fraid not. random thoughts - 15/09/2009 01:21:14 AM 781 Views
Re: 'Fraid not. random thoughts - 15/09/2009 01:22:59 AM 948 Views
Ithat was meant to be an eidt. oh well random thoughts - 15/09/2009 01:23:36 AM 854 Views
Craig - 15/09/2009 02:14:37 AM 877 Views
completely aside from this argument you guys have here... nossy - 15/09/2009 05:02:21 AM 850 Views
Interrupter! Craig - 15/09/2009 06:11:40 AM 773 Views
Re: Interrupter! nossy - 15/09/2009 06:54:56 AM 874 Views
One brain C4, coming up... jh - 15/09/2009 12:00:26 PM 845 Views
Nicely put Floffe - 15/09/2009 03:48:42 PM 764 Views
Yes, I know. jh - 15/09/2009 04:55:22 PM 886 Views
PFt nossy - 15/09/2009 04:56:19 PM 784 Views
Are you telling me I am getting predictable? jh - 15/09/2009 04:58:59 PM 858 Views
The age of the universe is an important point in the creationist argument random thoughts - 15/09/2009 05:53:41 PM 853 Views
Exactly. So it was in the wrong column. Craig - 15/09/2009 07:58:15 PM 829 Views
what I think has been lost in the debate is it looks like it will be a good movie random thoughts - 15/09/2009 08:14:04 PM 861 Views
That, I can agree with. *NM* Craig - 15/09/2009 08:22:44 PM 405 Views
Um. Rebekah - 14/09/2009 11:28:28 PM 923 Views
LOL Isaac - 15/09/2009 09:29:16 PM 878 Views
Really? Because this was a rather atypical debate, honestly. Legolas - 15/09/2009 09:43:13 PM 785 Views
Heh. Rebekah - 15/09/2009 09:54:00 PM 863 Views
Well, I can pretend if you want me to Isaac - 15/09/2009 10:07:59 PM 1330 Views
I happen to find it all extremely interesting nossy - 15/09/2009 10:23:19 PM 798 Views
Re: I happen to find it all extremely interesting Isaac - 15/09/2009 10:36:14 PM 869 Views
There are some places you can go that discuss the creationist ideas random thoughts - 15/09/2009 10:58:25 PM 940 Views
Having just been to the Creationist Museum last Monday nossy - 16/09/2009 12:00:12 AM 1093 Views
All hail the Flying Spaghetti Monster! Craig - 16/09/2009 06:03:20 AM 777 Views
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