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*nods* Clover Send a noteboard - 20/04/2011 06:25:29 AM
I have a lot of my mother in me. I knew I wasn't going to stay near my family; I don't like their lifestyle and I was always kind of the black sheep in terms of intellect. (Believe me, that's a good thing.) I consider Nick and Mike my family now. :)

Aww. :) SilverWarder Mike?

Nick has even less ties with his parents, though he loves his mother dearly. He talks to her a lot less than I do to mine, though.

Huh, I wonder why.

I was always very close to and rather dependent on my family, and it is something that has shaped my life quite a bit so far. People like you have always seemed impossibly courageous to me. But I've been in regular (and I think very good) therapy almost since moving to WA, and I'm starting to acknowledge the less-good aspects of my upbringing. I've also realized that I won't ever be a fully functional adult unless I really change my perspective and work towards the independent mindset (where I do things for myself and feel no shame or obligation towards them). Someday we may reach an understanding, but it's hard to go back in the midst of all this...

I feel like I could learn quite a bit from talking to you and learning more about your story, if you're ever up for that.
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Relationship - positive development or signs of eventual break down? - 19/04/2011 08:48:26 AM 1726 Views
Helene, I want to give you an answer but... - 19/04/2011 08:58:45 AM 897 Views
Fair enough - 19/04/2011 10:01:51 AM 842 Views
inlaws are not always bad - 19/04/2011 02:10:18 PM 805 Views
I spend way more time with my in-laws than with my own family. - 19/04/2011 02:17:41 PM 798 Views
I'm like this with my future in-laws too. *NM* - 19/04/2011 04:47:05 PM 395 Views
I think they are right - 19/04/2011 10:20:39 AM 1014 Views
I see your point - 19/04/2011 10:42:51 AM 967 Views
Re: I think they are right - 19/04/2011 01:59:57 PM 855 Views
I think that's an unfair assumption. - 19/04/2011 02:16:54 PM 786 Views
What he said about his wife's mother - 19/04/2011 02:59:32 PM 947 Views
No offense... - 19/04/2011 02:35:53 PM 941 Views
yes but have you found such a thing? - 19/04/2011 03:05:35 PM 847 Views
For now I have *NM* - 19/04/2011 03:08:17 PM 416 Views
how long has it been? *NM* - 19/04/2011 03:16:32 PM 403 Views
Don't try to corrupt me with your long term pessimism - 19/04/2011 03:34:39 PM 799 Views
sadly I seem attracted to the crazies *NM* - 19/04/2011 04:08:14 PM 395 Views
Could be either - 19/04/2011 10:30:50 AM 896 Views
True enough... - 19/04/2011 10:44:28 AM 885 Views
My opinion is the latter. - 19/04/2011 01:55:00 PM 886 Views
He definitely has a point about realistic expectations - 19/04/2011 01:56:49 PM 843 Views
Re: He definitely has a point about realistic expectations - 19/04/2011 02:07:34 PM 818 Views
Re: He definitely has a point about realistic expectations - 19/04/2011 02:13:25 PM 968 Views
I should have read this first. - 19/04/2011 02:25:16 PM 900 Views
Re: He definitely has a point about realistic expectations - 19/04/2011 02:23:14 PM 859 Views
The fact that you are referring to a fiancé and comparing it to wife says a lot - 19/04/2011 02:09:27 PM 964 Views
To be fair, me and my fiance have been together for about as long as they have - 19/04/2011 02:57:03 PM 816 Views
I don't know about everyone but things changed when we got married - 19/04/2011 03:16:11 PM 846 Views
How did things change? - 19/04/2011 04:14:56 PM 870 Views
Like I said I can only speak for myself - 19/04/2011 04:54:04 PM 861 Views
There's already a 10 year old in the picture for us - 19/04/2011 06:52:44 PM 792 Views
My husband and I don't understand why people say this. - 20/04/2011 01:03:31 AM 895 Views
I did say I was only speaking for myself - 20/04/2011 01:58:45 PM 834 Views
I know. - 20/04/2011 09:01:11 PM 1066 Views
Sorry for some reason I thought you had just got married. - 20/04/2011 09:52:24 PM 1313 Views
Good luck to them! *NM* - 22/04/2011 04:25:38 AM 380 Views
From the information that you have presented... - 19/04/2011 03:50:19 PM 990 Views
Could go either way. - 19/04/2011 04:36:02 PM 816 Views
I get the impression that it's more about her forming toward him than vice versa - 19/04/2011 06:56:37 PM 800 Views
Giving up is one thing, growing past is another. - 19/04/2011 10:00:55 PM 758 Views
Oh, to be fair, he's the friend and she's the wife - 20/04/2011 08:43:12 AM 737 Views
I don't necessarily think it will end in a breakup or divorce. - 19/04/2011 04:44:11 PM 798 Views
I think this is about priorities. - 20/04/2011 01:07:20 AM 943 Views
Our priorities may shift over time, too. We're still very young and more tied to our families. - 20/04/2011 03:09:54 AM 801 Views
Even when younger, I was independent. - 20/04/2011 05:29:59 AM 700 Views
*nods* - 20/04/2011 06:25:29 AM 869 Views
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Not the former for sure, and maybe not the latter. - 19/04/2011 05:55:03 PM 842 Views
Can't tell. - 19/04/2011 10:04:27 PM 765 Views
I'm with the 'can't tell' crowd. - 19/04/2011 11:37:17 PM 1071 Views
hell, or she could just not care too much at all - 19/04/2011 11:43:21 PM 781 Views
I'm leaning more towards your interpretation. *NM* - 20/04/2011 02:15:22 AM 360 Views
I'm with you on this. *NM* - 20/04/2011 10:00:41 AM 412 Views
*sigh* - 20/04/2011 09:25:02 PM 917 Views
Re: I mean, it's not good. *NM* - 20/04/2011 11:50:21 PM 353 Views

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