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Well... Jacob Send a noteboard - 22/09/2011 05:18:54 PM
Other than proven innocent comment, is if all this evidence is so shaky, why didn't he win any of the appeals? That's where I'm confused...


From what I understand of the law and the appeals process is that you can only appeal aspects of a case that fell within the original case and ruling. Recanted testimony, after the fact, as far as I can tell, will not change an appeals ruling, as long as the proper legal process, and results, came during the original trial. New evidence, especially in the case of questioned/recanted witness accounts can be tricky. They most frequently lead to a new trial. For a new trial, witness coercion would probably have to be proved in front of a judicial review.

The supreme court does not have executive powers. It hears cases and reviews ruling based on the interpretation of law and the constitution. The man had been found guilty by a jury of peers, and sentenced based on that verdict. Short of a miscarriage of law, an interpretation of the law, or clear and verified circumstances that change the verdict, the Supreme court tends to not get involved, allowing state legal and executive branches to rule in their own jurisdictions.

Personally, I don't know the circumstances of the two witnesses that have not changed their story since. Were they the two strongest witnesses? I haven't head the specific witnesses claims of coercion. But, I do know that this case and outcome is a mess. He was convicted and sentenced on the strength of 9 witnesses and no hard evidence. He was executed on that result.

It does seem odd that the load of questions and possible coercion would at least have resulted in a longer stay, or possibly having the death penalty changed to at least life in prison. Was it justice or was it a mistake? I don't think any of us will really be able to answer that definitively. And, I think that it is THAT, more than anything else, that makes people uncomfortable that he was indeed executed. People would rather be certain when it comes to ending a man's life.
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i'm proud to live in a country where you can be executed based on circumstantial evidence... - 22/09/2011 04:06:07 PM 1343 Views
Yeah it's pretty damn disgusting and frustrating... - 22/09/2011 04:08:05 PM 654 Views
Well - 22/09/2011 06:57:37 PM 694 Views
And yet the Supreme Court didn't stop it. You're a lawyer right? - 22/09/2011 04:19:05 PM 713 Views
Well, that right there was an ignorant thing to say. - 22/09/2011 04:32:49 PM 773 Views
But they get all the media attention - 22/09/2011 04:45:03 PM 664 Views
Er. - 22/09/2011 05:09:44 PM 667 Views
What about the t-shirts? *NM* - 22/09/2011 05:47:49 PM 272 Views
Heh... you should perhaps Google 'The West Memphis 3' - 22/09/2011 05:29:06 PM 736 Views
And this is a typically illogical argument. - 22/09/2011 11:11:48 PM 703 Views
You're kidding, right? - 23/09/2011 02:55:44 PM 651 Views
Re: You're kidding, right? - 23/09/2011 07:36:38 PM 669 Views
Juror bias. *NM* - 23/09/2011 08:35:10 PM 262 Views
the jury was majority black *NM* - 23/09/2011 09:03:48 PM 276 Views
In this instance, yes. *NM* - 23/09/2011 09:30:10 PM 233 Views
Your evidence for that? *NM* - 23/09/2011 11:33:58 PM 267 Views
Twenty-one years of life in the American South. - 24/09/2011 12:40:10 AM 623 Views
Of course I'm interested - 24/09/2011 04:03:51 AM 557 Views
From me being too involved with the subject material. I apologize. - 24/09/2011 11:16:06 AM 536 Views
No worries - 24/09/2011 07:10:40 PM 516 Views
While I largely agree with your argument, I agree more with Cannoli on the NAACP. - 23/09/2011 07:46:06 PM 603 Views
Wow - 23/09/2011 07:50:06 PM 515 Views
It happens. - 25/09/2011 03:09:00 PM 560 Views
yes the "you born white what more do you want" argument *NM* - 23/09/2011 09:03:04 PM 262 Views
From what I've read it is pretty disturbing - 22/09/2011 04:27:44 PM 742 Views
Huh. - 22/09/2011 04:47:20 PM 728 Views
That jumped out at me too. - 22/09/2011 04:50:52 PM 656 Views
What really confuses me - 22/09/2011 04:58:32 PM 615 Views
Well... - 22/09/2011 05:18:54 PM 762 Views
So if I understand you correctly... - 22/09/2011 05:23:00 PM 703 Views
almost - 22/09/2011 08:25:06 PM 591 Views
Re: Well... - 22/09/2011 05:29:03 PM 667 Views
I know one reason is that - 22/09/2011 08:27:41 PM 656 Views
it is only confusing because the evidence isn't really that shaky - 22/09/2011 08:54:21 PM 632 Views
you are innocent until proven guilty - 22/09/2011 05:34:57 PM 672 Views
You must change your perspective..... - 22/09/2011 07:33:20 PM 658 Views
Well said *NM* - 22/09/2011 08:49:56 PM 291 Views
If I understand the Supreme Court correctly, the reason they denied the stay of execution was - 22/09/2011 08:25:14 PM 679 Views
On its face, that is a good reason. - 22/09/2011 10:07:44 PM 712 Views
I completely support the Death Penalty without question..... - 22/09/2011 08:27:54 PM 591 Views
Unreasonable doubt is impossible to eliminate. - 22/09/2011 09:54:43 PM 662 Views
Doubt can be eliminated.....any question about Dalmer? - 23/09/2011 01:00:52 PM 635 Views
Maybe he was framed by an enemy, government conspiracy or aliens. - 23/09/2011 01:54:21 PM 611 Views
Jigga what? *NM* - 23/09/2011 03:36:07 PM 295 Views
Circumstantial evidence is not, I believe, a bar to conviction. - 22/09/2011 09:43:56 PM 556 Views
Regarding the salvation thing, that is an argument FOR the death penalty, in my mind. - 22/09/2011 11:37:16 PM 632 Views
That motive is seflish and thus fatal. - 23/09/2011 01:17:00 AM 570 Views
Bullshit - 25/09/2011 03:53:05 AM 798 Views
Thank God you're not an evangelist. - 23/09/2011 02:59:06 PM 593 Views
And I pity the souls you have ministered to. They're in for a rude shock at their judgement - 25/09/2011 04:01:05 AM 621 Views
lol roman catholicism *NM* - 25/09/2011 04:39:55 AM 243 Views
You really don't understand irony, do you? Particularly as it applies to your post about this case. - 22/09/2011 11:26:49 PM 676 Views
. - 23/09/2011 08:21:38 AM 623 Views
I kind of agree. - 24/09/2011 12:05:27 AM 636 Views

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