"sensitive federal content"? Provide a source justifying this claim and it's relevance, please.
lord-of-shadow Send a noteboard - 18/01/2012 05:59:47 PM
You are the first and so far only place I have heard this brought up. I don't think "sensitive federal content" has any relevance to any of this, nor will it's access be impacted by the presence or absence of the sort of regulations that SOPA/PIPA would impose.
This message last edited by lord-of-shadow on 18/01/2012 at 06:01:27 PM
English Wikipedia Anti-SOPA Blackout
- 17/01/2012 08:31:46 AM
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Yeah, man, because currently copyright holders have no recourse, am I right?
- 17/01/2012 11:47:35 AM
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"altering the infrastructure of the Internet so as to render RAFO virtually inaccessible"? 
- 17/01/2012 08:12:27 PM
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- 17/01/2012 08:12:27 PM
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I'll go ahead and ask before I get my panties in a bunch: do you understand these bills?
- 17/01/2012 09:09:22 PM
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I admit I have not looked into it much
- 17/01/2012 11:42:30 PM
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And yet you're still arguing the matter. 
- 18/01/2012 02:34:04 AM
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- 18/01/2012 02:34:04 AM
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I love you. *NM*
- 18/01/2012 03:41:03 AM
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heh, thanks. I usually find myself pushing minority opinions. Nice to be "appreciated" for once. 
*NM*
- 18/01/2012 04:01:10 AM
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*NM*
- 18/01/2012 04:01:10 AM
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Can i second the adulation?
- 18/01/2012 04:07:17 AM
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I too (three?) appreciate the common sense and reasonable explanations. *NM*
- 18/01/2012 04:12:59 AM
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Right, because the argument is not just over THIS bill but, apparently, over ANY bill.
- 18/01/2012 11:09:13 AM
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Alternatives to SOPA/PIPA have been proposed for months now. Please stop arguing this.
- 18/01/2012 05:42:10 PM
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Also, in the case of the OPEN Act, it has not "been proposed for months."
- 18/01/2012 07:28:15 PM
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"sensitive federal content"? Provide a source justifying this claim and it's relevance, please.
- 18/01/2012 05:59:47 PM
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I would not have thought a source necessary.
- 18/01/2012 06:24:44 PM
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Okay, I'm with Aemon now.
- 18/01/2012 07:36:21 PM
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OK.
- 18/01/2012 10:16:16 PM
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should be interesting
- 17/01/2012 12:41:47 PM
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Could be; depends on a lot of factors.
- 17/01/2012 07:38:55 PM
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See, that's one of the biggest problems that people aren't understanding.
- 17/01/2012 09:31:38 PM
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So tell them that.
- 17/01/2012 11:54:19 PM
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Joel, I think I'm done with this unless you want to do some research.
- 18/01/2012 02:53:19 AM
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Research would tell me what is wrong with these bills and how a good bill should look.
- 18/01/2012 11:22:46 AM
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Could've done without the snide rejoinder, but, good.
- 17/01/2012 02:20:08 PM
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I love the black banner, like some kind of internet Holocaust.
- 17/01/2012 08:03:27 PM
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Are you aware that SOPA/PIPA has nothing to do with hackers and everything to do with copyright?
- 18/01/2012 02:08:56 AM
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There seems to be some overlap.
- 18/01/2012 01:08:22 PM
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Re: There seems to be some overlap.
- 18/01/2012 08:13:15 PM
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Re: There still seems to be some overlap.
- 18/01/2012 10:27:32 PM
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Re: There still seems to be some overlap.
- 18/01/2012 11:30:39 PM
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Just because the news does not mention something does not automatically make it non-applicable.
- 19/01/2012 04:08:58 PM
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Re: Just because the news does not mention something does not automatically make it non-applicable.
- 19/01/2012 10:39:40 PM
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If you re-read your last sentence it should be clear why this law is being pushed.
- 20/01/2012 09:12:29 PM
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Re: If you re-read your last sentence it should be clear why this law is being pushed.
- 21/01/2012 03:19:49 AM
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Er, what Ghav said.
- 18/01/2012 02:30:37 AM
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Sorry, protecting Pirate Bay and offshore gambling are not compelling counterarguments.
- 18/01/2012 11:38:08 AM
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Okay, another analogy:
- 18/01/2012 02:04:12 PM
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The devil is always in the details, and it seems clear the details need great revision.
- 18/01/2012 03:31:20 PM
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what they SHOULD do is stop taking money from proponents of sopa/pipa
- 18/01/2012 03:51:09 PM
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Yes, they should, but, once again, that approach will not prevent a new law.
- 18/01/2012 04:05:02 PM
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Re: The devil is always in the details, and it seems clear the details need great revision.
- 18/01/2012 04:27:30 PM
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If the US government wants to summarily block sites within the US, it already can and will.
- 18/01/2012 06:15:53 PM
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You know all this anti-SOPA bullshit is making me hope the bill passes.
- 18/01/2012 04:00:17 AM
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I would not go THAT far; it seems clear these bills have many objectionable provisions.
- 18/01/2012 11:41:23 AM
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Re: I would not go THAT far; it seems clear these bills have many objectionable provisions.
- 19/01/2012 01:57:46 AM
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Yeah, the extreme bias on both sides is why the bills will likely pass more or less as written.
- 19/01/2012 03:31:52 PM
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joel, you need to consider three things
- 18/01/2012 06:06:16 AM
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You need to consider that they WILL pass some legislation, and what you want it to contain.
- 18/01/2012 12:15:38 PM
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again, it's not about piracy, it's about protecting the mpaa/riaa business model at our expense
- 18/01/2012 03:34:32 PM
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Yeah, see, that is the problem: "it's not about piracy."
- 18/01/2012 03:57:55 PM
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if piracy is such a problem then the mpaa/riaa need to PROVE their losses
- 19/01/2012 02:43:31 AM
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How do you expect anyone to prove what people WOULD HAVE bought if they could not just take it?
- 19/01/2012 03:57:24 PM
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A technical examination of SOPA and PROTECT IP
- 18/01/2012 08:32:44 AM
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"As a disclaimer, I am not a lawyer, I'm a sysadmin."
- 18/01/2012 12:47:16 PM
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Wikipedia has already convinced me
- 18/01/2012 03:26:01 PM
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Trying to stop this legislation without proposing an alternative is trying to stop ANY legislation.
- 18/01/2012 03:44:18 PM
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It isn't their job to propose legislation
- 18/01/2012 04:12:53 PM
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No, but they have as much RIGHT to do so as anyone else.
- 18/01/2012 05:31:55 PM
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Strike three.
- 18/01/2012 05:37:55 PM
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That is fine; that is what people SHOULD be doing.
- 18/01/2012 06:03:59 PM
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Things being better now than they would be under SOPA seems like a legitimate argument to me
- 18/01/2012 09:04:18 PM
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Against SOPA, sure; against ANY new law, no.
- 18/01/2012 10:46:48 PM
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About "proposing new legislation"
- 18/01/2012 04:45:08 PM
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So true
- 18/01/2012 05:08:45 PM
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Re: About "proposing new legislation"
- 18/01/2012 05:59:55 PM
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Hm, you should read my post one above about combatting online piracy.
- 18/01/2012 06:20:16 PM
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I would not recommend photocopying a book and handing it out on street corners.
- 18/01/2012 06:45:52 PM
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Not to blame, neccessarily. But you have to live in the real world.
- 18/01/2012 07:31:18 PM
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Re: Not to blame, neccessarily. But you have to live in the real world.
- 18/01/2012 08:55:59 PM
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I always liked the codewheels SSI provided with copies of their Gold Box AD&D games.
- 18/01/2012 10:07:40 PM
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These are really different arguments
- 19/01/2012 12:05:10 AM
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TV is slightly different, because regional availability becomes a factor.
- 19/01/2012 04:18:58 PM
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Yeah, so I use Russian wikipedia for a day. Or German wikipedia, or French, or Italian... *NM*
- 18/01/2012 06:23:36 PM
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Or just hit stop right before the script runs. *NM*
- 18/01/2012 06:52:40 PM
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Or just disable Java. *NM*
- 19/01/2012 01:58:03 AM
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That's not as much fun though. *NM*
- 19/01/2012 02:13:44 AM
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Exactly, this way its kind of a game. *NM*
- 19/01/2012 02:20:37 AM
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I really don't see the fun in that. Wikipedia is just a tool, not a game. *NM*
- 19/01/2012 04:59:14 AM
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I don't know about those (except French), but none of the ones I ever used are remotely as good. *NM*
- 18/01/2012 08:13:47 PM
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Russian wikipedia is very good if you're not checking some obscure Western cultural phenomena.
- 19/01/2012 01:57:43 AM
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Or Answers.com, or even the actual sources that are often copy/pasted into Wikipedia...
- 19/01/2012 01:07:38 AM
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Re: Or Answers.com, or even the actual sources that are often copy/pasted into Wikipedia... *NM*
- 19/01/2012 01:34:46 AM
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Oh, no; now Congress will be inundated with complaints from lazy college students! 
- 19/01/2012 04:40:12 PM
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- 19/01/2012 04:40:12 PM
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13 previously unopposed senators now do not support SOPA.
- 19/01/2012 11:36:15 PM
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How does that "rebutt" what was a facetious post in the first place?
- 20/01/2012 09:24:27 PM
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