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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Voula Papachristou should not have been kicked out of the Olympics? Great Lord of Chaos Send a noteboard - 26/07/2012 11:14:39 AM
The Chick-Fil-A controversy started everything. While I don't agree with their stance on same-sex rights at all, and while I think the Henson company is within its rights to pull licensing (if their contract allows that), the notion that the mayor of Boston would try to block a free enterprise by legal action is wrong. Unless and until there are laws that make discrimination based on sexual orientation illegal (something that I would support, by the way), the mayor's actions represent a flagrant abuse of his authority.


If you read the letter to Chick-Fil-A, there is nothing more than a strong "recommendation" that they pull out of plans to enter the city. Nothing about legal action, basically saying "We don't want you here." Officials in Chicago, apparently, are looking into ways to blocking them from entering the city. An alderman is using his prerogative to block their permit. And, I'm fine with that. If the people in his ward don't like it, they can file a petition, or next election, vote him out.

Now I see that Voula Papachristou of Greece was banned from the Olympics for tweets that some could assume were racist. Specifically, when she heard about a West Nile Virus outbreak in Greece, she tweeted, "With so many Africans in Greece, the West Nile mosquitoes will be getting some food!!!"


It was a tasteless joke.

However, I care more about the lack of a Munich memorial during the Opening Ceremony. If the Olympics wanted to act as if they cared about tolerance and respect towards all participants, they would have the decency to do that.
Ὦ ξεῖν', ἀγγέλλειν Λακεδαιμονίοις ὅτι τῇδε
κείμεθα, τοῖς κείνων ῥήμασι πειθόμενοι.
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Am I the only one who thinks Voula Papachristou should not have been kicked out of the Olympics? Tom - 25/07/2012 10:55:19 PM 1176 Views
Being on a country's Olympic team is a privilege, not a right Dark Knight - 25/07/2012 11:00:24 PM 671 Views
So banning blacks would be cool if it was legal in that country? Cannoli - 25/07/2012 11:08:52 PM 834 Views
If that's how the country wants to run itself Dark Knight - 25/07/2012 11:13:04 PM 705 Views
The IOC can ban nations from participating for that sort of stunt. Legolas - 25/07/2012 11:33:23 PM 852 Views
So that excuses thought control? Tom - 25/07/2012 11:49:58 PM 754 Views
If Hitler could let Jesse Owens run... Cannoli - 25/07/2012 11:07:19 PM 897 Views
Yes. Political power should not be used to enforce morals. Tom - 25/07/2012 11:53:19 PM 638 Views
The national Olympic Committees aren't the government. Legolas - 26/07/2012 12:02:43 AM 614 Views
Even worse. Tom - 26/07/2012 12:08:05 AM 662 Views
Erm snoopcester - 26/07/2012 12:29:32 AM 692 Views
I fail to see how the whole team would be thrown out. Tom - 26/07/2012 12:41:16 AM 691 Views
Because the IOC throws them out if the national government interferes in the national committe. *NM* snoopcester - 26/07/2012 12:43:39 AM 381 Views
Well, that's absurd. Tom - 26/07/2012 01:09:41 AM 765 Views
As with most things, I doubt the practice matches the theory snoopcester - 26/07/2012 10:45:55 AM 681 Views
Africans != illegals Tim - 25/07/2012 11:19:32 PM 771 Views
Specious reasoning. Tom - 26/07/2012 12:07:08 AM 598 Views
Who are you to decide that? Legolas - 26/07/2012 12:16:45 AM 738 Views
I'm not the one deciding. Tom - 26/07/2012 12:36:17 AM 600 Views
Essentially you're saying "there are lots of racists in Europe". Tim - 26/07/2012 08:28:26 AM 708 Views
That's an oversimplification. Tom - 29/07/2012 03:13:14 AM 656 Views
You stated it as a fact. Legolas - 26/07/2012 07:49:58 PM 655 Views
Well, it is a fact that a north African could never become ethnically Greek. Tom - 29/07/2012 03:27:50 AM 744 Views
I think any organisation should have the right to choose who represents them snoopcester - 25/07/2012 11:20:36 PM 672 Views
Well, but that's not the end of it. Tom - 26/07/2012 12:12:09 AM 743 Views
It is for me snoopcester - 26/07/2012 12:26:25 AM 654 Views
So...conformity ahead? *NM* Tom - 26/07/2012 12:40:03 AM 325 Views
Athletes taking responsibility for their own actions, if that is what you mean. snoopcester - 26/07/2012 12:44:56 AM 794 Views
Is that all that happened? nossy - 25/07/2012 11:28:17 PM 613 Views
That and some pro-Golden Dawn statements. Tom - 26/07/2012 12:14:25 AM 802 Views
For me it is more than enough snoopcester - 26/07/2012 12:32:35 AM 595 Views
I thought the original ideals of the Olympics were to honor Zeus. *NM* Tom - 26/07/2012 12:38:32 AM 446 Views
I view the long dead Greek Olympics as seperate, despite the shared name, from the modern Olympics *NM* snoopcester - 26/07/2012 12:42:18 AM 343 Views
It's not what happened to her that I typically waver on. nossy - 27/07/2012 03:08:45 PM 630 Views
Difficult question - if you ask me, the key point is a question of authority. Legolas - 25/07/2012 11:40:39 PM 703 Views
I just googled "What did Voula Papachristou say?" and got that. Tom - 26/07/2012 12:16:53 AM 749 Views
Well it seems a bit of an over-reaction, and I doubt the purity of motives of those doing it, but... Isaac - 26/07/2012 01:49:35 AM 603 Views
Re: Am I the only one who thinks Voula Papachristou should not have been kicked out of the Olympics? Great Lord of Chaos - 26/07/2012 11:14:39 AM 997 Views
I'm going to boycott by turning off the Olympics and watching Michelle Jenneke nonstop instead. *NM* everynametaken - 26/07/2012 09:02:59 PM 382 Views
It's not a matter of freedom of expression DomA - 26/07/2012 09:49:59 PM 790 Views
This. *NM* ironclad - 26/07/2012 10:26:37 PM 345 Views
I oppose censorship even if it is not comng from the government random thoughts - 26/07/2012 10:16:30 PM 642 Views
How is it censorship? DomA - 27/07/2012 02:33:30 AM 747 Views
try looking up the word censorship and ask yourself would their actions supress speech random thoughts - 27/07/2012 02:59:11 AM 870 Views
I know the definition thank you. How exactly was her communication suppressed? DomA - 27/07/2012 05:54:39 PM 766 Views
you are right public punishment of political expression could never been seen as suppression random thoughts - 27/07/2012 06:20:15 PM 888 Views
Well nossy - 27/07/2012 07:20:27 PM 654 Views
Where did she ever imply she wanted them to be bitten? *NM* random thoughts - 27/07/2012 08:03:05 PM 409 Views
Hello earth.... "food from home". DomA - 27/07/2012 08:26:15 PM 626 Views
OK I repeat my question: Where did she she WANTED them to be bit? random thoughts - 30/07/2012 09:07:01 PM 913 Views
Um, she referred to them as food? nossy - 27/07/2012 08:38:22 PM 666 Views
No what is silly is inferring that she hoped they would be bitten *NM* random thoughts - 30/07/2012 09:09:18 PM 447 Views
No what is silly is inferring that she hoped they would be bitten *NM* random thoughts - 30/07/2012 09:09:27 PM 366 Views
I'm with you on this - I don't think she wanted them to be bitten. Legolas - 27/07/2012 09:02:05 PM 730 Views
Re: I'm with you on this - I don't think she wanted them to be bitten. DomA - 27/07/2012 09:32:56 PM 755 Views
Do you have to go to special schools to learn how to read that much into dumb jokes? random thoughts - 30/07/2012 09:57:21 PM 776 Views
It was insensitive at best random thoughts - 30/07/2012 09:25:06 PM 1158 Views
Re: you are right public punishment of political expression could never been seen as suppression DomA - 27/07/2012 08:30:26 PM 625 Views
One problem. nossy - 27/07/2012 04:54:52 AM 643 Views
Exactly ironclad - 27/07/2012 12:05:14 PM 666 Views
where do you people get these backasswards idea of what censorship is? PCmart? random thoughts - 27/07/2012 02:01:29 PM 701 Views
We can have this conversation w/o you being mean. nossy - 27/07/2012 02:57:02 PM 659 Views
I never claimed I was against repercussions and people here are denying it is censorship random thoughts - 27/07/2012 04:18:54 PM 751 Views
Re: I never claimed I was against repercussions and people here are denying it is censorship nossy - 27/07/2012 05:01:37 PM 662 Views
OK did I miss read what you said? random thoughts - 27/07/2012 06:41:51 PM 823 Views
No, but the disagreement is important. nossy - 27/07/2012 07:09:11 PM 635 Views
Re: I never claimed I was against repercussions and people here are denying it is censorship DomA - 27/07/2012 06:23:17 PM 597 Views
sorry I forgot the Olympic spirit was about banning athletes for dumb jokes they apologized for random thoughts - 27/07/2012 08:30:08 PM 578 Views
You're really not going to make sense of this if you keep mashing everything together. Legolas - 27/07/2012 08:59:35 PM 622 Views
Re: You're really not going to make sense of this if you keep mashing everything together. DomA - 27/07/2012 09:18:08 PM 687 Views
I know who did the banning but the whole organization seems to infested with a certain flavor of PC random thoughts - 30/07/2012 10:11:26 PM 758 Views
Re: sorry I forgot the Olympic spirit was about banning athletes for dumb jokes they apologized for DomA - 27/07/2012 09:01:07 PM 597 Views
I know you said it but do you actually believe it? random thoughts - 27/07/2012 01:56:35 PM 633 Views
It's a good question, but yes, I do. nossy - 27/07/2012 02:42:28 PM 684 Views
Are going to ban everyone and everyone country who says something about anyone else? random thoughts - 27/07/2012 04:47:51 PM 589 Views
Yes, that is clearly exactly what I said. nossy - 27/07/2012 05:10:37 PM 633 Views
i have a feeling you are being influenced by that pic they run with all the articles about her? moondog - 27/07/2012 02:14:13 PM 650 Views
Surely you don't think... Isaac - 27/07/2012 02:57:47 PM 562 Views
Heh. Rebekah - 27/07/2012 05:53:07 PM 778 Views
Typo? There are limits to our credulity... or to mine, anyway. Legolas - 27/07/2012 06:27:44 PM 656 Views
I can honestly say I would not care as much if she were a man and/or ugly Tom - 29/07/2012 03:29:47 AM 738 Views
Looks like Voula Papachristou agrees with Tom Dark Knight - 27/07/2012 07:09:30 PM 680 Views
Quite understandable. But so's the Greek OC's decision. Legolas - 27/07/2012 07:11:31 PM 680 Views
And now a Swiss footabller has gone as well snoopcester - 30/07/2012 08:22:45 PM 694 Views
That's just poor sportsmanship. *NM* Tom - 30/07/2012 08:53:53 PM 465 Views
And now the next incident... this time about an athlete's partner, not the athlete herself. Legolas - 03/08/2012 09:47:27 PM 735 Views
And an Australian athlete has been sent home now snoopcester - 04/08/2012 10:12:12 AM 521 Views
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