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That's an oversimplification. Tom Send a noteboard - 29/07/2012 03:13:14 AM
First, on your point about "private organizations", those "private" organizations represent an entire nation, so it's a bit different than having a church use arbitrary standards on who can worship in what is purely a private function.

Second, while I'm sure that some of the people opposed to immigration may be racists (including Voula Papachristou), the notion that nations are ethnic homelands (aside from the US, which pretty much wiped out its native inhabitants, Canada, which came close to doing the same thing, Australia, which came close to doing the same thing, etc.) is not necessarily a racist one. The reason the UN endorsed the establishment of a Jewish homeland in Palestine after World War II was in part because it was felt that if the Jews had a nation that was "theirs", it would be harder to repeat the Holocaust. I could rephrase that notion the way my father-in-law puts it: "I might move to Israel. Everywhere else there will be people who say I'm just another dirty Jew."

As a result, an influx of immigrants with different traditions and ways of living can be seen as a threat to this cultural link, particularly for smaller ethnic groups. I don't think that everyone who is anti-immigrant is by definition racist. Conservative, perhaps reactionary by definition, but not ipso facto racist. I'm not going to presume to know what is in the hearts of every person who wants to limit immigration in European countries.
Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

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Am I the only one who thinks Voula Papachristou should not have been kicked out of the Olympics? - 25/07/2012 10:55:19 PM 1480 Views
Being on a country's Olympic team is a privilege, not a right - 25/07/2012 11:00:24 PM 935 Views
So banning blacks would be cool if it was legal in that country? - 25/07/2012 11:08:52 PM 1088 Views
If that's how the country wants to run itself - 25/07/2012 11:13:04 PM 957 Views
The IOC can ban nations from participating for that sort of stunt. - 25/07/2012 11:33:23 PM 1109 Views
So that excuses thought control? - 25/07/2012 11:49:58 PM 1022 Views
If Hitler could let Jesse Owens run... - 25/07/2012 11:07:19 PM 1154 Views
Yes. Political power should not be used to enforce morals. - 25/07/2012 11:53:19 PM 885 Views
The national Olympic Committees aren't the government. - 26/07/2012 12:02:43 AM 872 Views
Even worse. - 26/07/2012 12:08:05 AM 925 Views
Erm - 26/07/2012 12:29:32 AM 959 Views
I fail to see how the whole team would be thrown out. - 26/07/2012 12:41:16 AM 950 Views
Because the IOC throws them out if the national government interferes in the national committe. *NM* - 26/07/2012 12:43:39 AM 511 Views
Well, that's absurd. - 26/07/2012 01:09:41 AM 1029 Views
As with most things, I doubt the practice matches the theory - 26/07/2012 10:45:55 AM 926 Views
Africans != illegals - 25/07/2012 11:19:32 PM 994 Views
Specious reasoning. - 26/07/2012 12:07:08 AM 856 Views
Who are you to decide that? - 26/07/2012 12:16:45 AM 1025 Views
I'm not the one deciding. - 26/07/2012 12:36:17 AM 866 Views
Essentially you're saying "there are lots of racists in Europe". - 26/07/2012 08:28:26 AM 972 Views
That's an oversimplification. - 29/07/2012 03:13:14 AM 933 Views
You stated it as a fact. - 26/07/2012 07:49:58 PM 909 Views
I think any organisation should have the right to choose who represents them - 25/07/2012 11:20:36 PM 924 Views
Well, but that's not the end of it. - 26/07/2012 12:12:09 AM 992 Views
It is for me - 26/07/2012 12:26:25 AM 911 Views
So...conformity ahead? *NM* - 26/07/2012 12:40:03 AM 441 Views
Is that all that happened? - 25/07/2012 11:28:17 PM 873 Views
That and some pro-Golden Dawn statements. - 26/07/2012 12:14:25 AM 1069 Views
For me it is more than enough - 26/07/2012 12:32:35 AM 832 Views
It's not what happened to her that I typically waver on. - 27/07/2012 03:08:45 PM 879 Views
It's not a matter of freedom of expression - 26/07/2012 09:49:59 PM 1072 Views
This. *NM* - 26/07/2012 10:26:37 PM 457 Views
I oppose censorship even if it is not comng from the government - 26/07/2012 10:16:30 PM 917 Views
How is it censorship? - 27/07/2012 02:33:30 AM 1017 Views
try looking up the word censorship and ask yourself would their actions supress speech - 27/07/2012 02:59:11 AM 1132 Views
I know the definition thank you. How exactly was her communication suppressed? - 27/07/2012 05:54:39 PM 1046 Views
you are right public punishment of political expression could never been seen as suppression - 27/07/2012 06:20:15 PM 1147 Views
Well - 27/07/2012 07:20:27 PM 926 Views
Where did she ever imply she wanted them to be bitten? *NM* - 27/07/2012 08:03:05 PM 526 Views
Hello earth.... "food from home". - 27/07/2012 08:26:15 PM 877 Views
OK I repeat my question: Where did she she WANTED them to be bit? - 30/07/2012 09:07:01 PM 1196 Views
Um, she referred to them as food? - 27/07/2012 08:38:22 PM 954 Views
No what is silly is inferring that she hoped they would be bitten *NM* - 30/07/2012 09:09:18 PM 578 Views
No what is silly is inferring that she hoped they would be bitten *NM* - 30/07/2012 09:09:27 PM 490 Views
I'm with you on this - I don't think she wanted them to be bitten. - 27/07/2012 09:02:05 PM 944 Views
It was insensitive at best - 30/07/2012 09:25:06 PM 1480 Views
One problem. - 27/07/2012 04:54:52 AM 910 Views
Exactly - 27/07/2012 12:05:14 PM 911 Views
I know you said it but do you actually believe it? - 27/07/2012 01:56:35 PM 919 Views
It's a good question, but yes, I do. - 27/07/2012 02:42:28 PM 939 Views
Are going to ban everyone and everyone country who says something about anyone else? - 27/07/2012 04:47:51 PM 854 Views
Yes, that is clearly exactly what I said. - 27/07/2012 05:10:37 PM 897 Views
i have a feeling you are being influenced by that pic they run with all the articles about her? - 27/07/2012 02:14:13 PM 913 Views
Surely you don't think... - 27/07/2012 02:57:47 PM 812 Views
Heh. - 27/07/2012 05:53:07 PM 1064 Views
Typo? There are limits to our credulity... or to mine, anyway. - 27/07/2012 06:27:44 PM 940 Views
Looks like Voula Papachristou agrees with Tom - 27/07/2012 07:09:30 PM 964 Views
Quite understandable. But so's the Greek OC's decision. - 27/07/2012 07:11:31 PM 951 Views
And now a Swiss footabller has gone as well - 30/07/2012 08:22:45 PM 948 Views
That's just poor sportsmanship. *NM* - 30/07/2012 08:53:53 PM 609 Views
And an Australian athlete has been sent home now - 04/08/2012 10:12:12 AM 778 Views

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