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Re: sorry I forgot the Olympic spirit was about banning athletes for dumb jokes they apologized for DomA Send a noteboard - 27/07/2012 09:01:07 PM
I guess you can make the argument that the Greeks have the right to ban anyone they choose but by the same token I have the right to point out that they are small minded morons how have no tolerance for people who don't toe the line on political opinion. It is a two edged sword you know.


Of course.

And I repeat that personally I wouldn't have banned her for this, rather have her issue a public apology and reiterate her beliefs in the olympics ideals.

But the decision of the Greek OC is perfectly understandable and justifiable. I just happen to disagree completely with the censorshîp/freedom of expression angle on this, as to me it's clearly just a case of violating the Olympics values and be stupid enough to do so publicly.

For the rest yeah, there's a ton of major issues with the Olympics and the IOC. It's just that a national committee banning an athlete who publicly contradicted the olympic values she was about to swear to uphold isn't one of these issues to make any fuss over. The punishment is harsh, but she's the one who seriously lacked judgement and sense of responsability. Nothing would have happened had she told the joke to her friends rather than stupidly publishing it on Twitter for the world to see. She's hardly the only xenophobe (or stupid) athlete worlwide, I'm sure.

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Am I the only one who thinks Voula Papachristou should not have been kicked out of the Olympics? Tom - 25/07/2012 10:55:19 PM 1177 Views
Being on a country's Olympic team is a privilege, not a right Dark Knight - 25/07/2012 11:00:24 PM 672 Views
So banning blacks would be cool if it was legal in that country? Cannoli - 25/07/2012 11:08:52 PM 835 Views
If that's how the country wants to run itself Dark Knight - 25/07/2012 11:13:04 PM 706 Views
The IOC can ban nations from participating for that sort of stunt. Legolas - 25/07/2012 11:33:23 PM 853 Views
So that excuses thought control? Tom - 25/07/2012 11:49:58 PM 755 Views
If Hitler could let Jesse Owens run... Cannoli - 25/07/2012 11:07:19 PM 898 Views
Yes. Political power should not be used to enforce morals. Tom - 25/07/2012 11:53:19 PM 639 Views
The national Olympic Committees aren't the government. Legolas - 26/07/2012 12:02:43 AM 615 Views
Even worse. Tom - 26/07/2012 12:08:05 AM 663 Views
Erm snoopcester - 26/07/2012 12:29:32 AM 693 Views
I fail to see how the whole team would be thrown out. Tom - 26/07/2012 12:41:16 AM 693 Views
Because the IOC throws them out if the national government interferes in the national committe. *NM* snoopcester - 26/07/2012 12:43:39 AM 383 Views
Well, that's absurd. Tom - 26/07/2012 01:09:41 AM 766 Views
As with most things, I doubt the practice matches the theory snoopcester - 26/07/2012 10:45:55 AM 682 Views
Africans != illegals Tim - 25/07/2012 11:19:32 PM 772 Views
Specious reasoning. Tom - 26/07/2012 12:07:08 AM 599 Views
Who are you to decide that? Legolas - 26/07/2012 12:16:45 AM 739 Views
I'm not the one deciding. Tom - 26/07/2012 12:36:17 AM 604 Views
Essentially you're saying "there are lots of racists in Europe". Tim - 26/07/2012 08:28:26 AM 709 Views
That's an oversimplification. Tom - 29/07/2012 03:13:14 AM 658 Views
You stated it as a fact. Legolas - 26/07/2012 07:49:58 PM 656 Views
Well, it is a fact that a north African could never become ethnically Greek. Tom - 29/07/2012 03:27:50 AM 745 Views
I think any organisation should have the right to choose who represents them snoopcester - 25/07/2012 11:20:36 PM 674 Views
Well, but that's not the end of it. Tom - 26/07/2012 12:12:09 AM 744 Views
It is for me snoopcester - 26/07/2012 12:26:25 AM 655 Views
So...conformity ahead? *NM* Tom - 26/07/2012 12:40:03 AM 326 Views
Athletes taking responsibility for their own actions, if that is what you mean. snoopcester - 26/07/2012 12:44:56 AM 795 Views
Is that all that happened? nossy - 25/07/2012 11:28:17 PM 614 Views
That and some pro-Golden Dawn statements. Tom - 26/07/2012 12:14:25 AM 803 Views
For me it is more than enough snoopcester - 26/07/2012 12:32:35 AM 596 Views
I thought the original ideals of the Olympics were to honor Zeus. *NM* Tom - 26/07/2012 12:38:32 AM 447 Views
I view the long dead Greek Olympics as seperate, despite the shared name, from the modern Olympics *NM* snoopcester - 26/07/2012 12:42:18 AM 344 Views
It's not what happened to her that I typically waver on. nossy - 27/07/2012 03:08:45 PM 630 Views
Difficult question - if you ask me, the key point is a question of authority. Legolas - 25/07/2012 11:40:39 PM 704 Views
I just googled "What did Voula Papachristou say?" and got that. Tom - 26/07/2012 12:16:53 AM 751 Views
Well it seems a bit of an over-reaction, and I doubt the purity of motives of those doing it, but... Isaac - 26/07/2012 01:49:35 AM 604 Views
Re: Am I the only one who thinks Voula Papachristou should not have been kicked out of the Olympics? Great Lord of Chaos - 26/07/2012 11:14:39 AM 998 Views
I'm going to boycott by turning off the Olympics and watching Michelle Jenneke nonstop instead. *NM* everynametaken - 26/07/2012 09:02:59 PM 383 Views
It's not a matter of freedom of expression DomA - 26/07/2012 09:49:59 PM 792 Views
This. *NM* ironclad - 26/07/2012 10:26:37 PM 346 Views
I oppose censorship even if it is not comng from the government random thoughts - 26/07/2012 10:16:30 PM 643 Views
How is it censorship? DomA - 27/07/2012 02:33:30 AM 748 Views
try looking up the word censorship and ask yourself would their actions supress speech random thoughts - 27/07/2012 02:59:11 AM 871 Views
I know the definition thank you. How exactly was her communication suppressed? DomA - 27/07/2012 05:54:39 PM 767 Views
you are right public punishment of political expression could never been seen as suppression random thoughts - 27/07/2012 06:20:15 PM 890 Views
Well nossy - 27/07/2012 07:20:27 PM 655 Views
Where did she ever imply she wanted them to be bitten? *NM* random thoughts - 27/07/2012 08:03:05 PM 411 Views
Hello earth.... "food from home". DomA - 27/07/2012 08:26:15 PM 628 Views
OK I repeat my question: Where did she she WANTED them to be bit? random thoughts - 30/07/2012 09:07:01 PM 915 Views
Um, she referred to them as food? nossy - 27/07/2012 08:38:22 PM 669 Views
No what is silly is inferring that she hoped they would be bitten *NM* random thoughts - 30/07/2012 09:09:18 PM 448 Views
No what is silly is inferring that she hoped they would be bitten *NM* random thoughts - 30/07/2012 09:09:27 PM 367 Views
I'm with you on this - I don't think she wanted them to be bitten. Legolas - 27/07/2012 09:02:05 PM 731 Views
Re: I'm with you on this - I don't think she wanted them to be bitten. DomA - 27/07/2012 09:32:56 PM 756 Views
Do you have to go to special schools to learn how to read that much into dumb jokes? random thoughts - 30/07/2012 09:57:21 PM 777 Views
It was insensitive at best random thoughts - 30/07/2012 09:25:06 PM 1160 Views
Re: you are right public punishment of political expression could never been seen as suppression DomA - 27/07/2012 08:30:26 PM 628 Views
One problem. nossy - 27/07/2012 04:54:52 AM 644 Views
Exactly ironclad - 27/07/2012 12:05:14 PM 667 Views
where do you people get these backasswards idea of what censorship is? PCmart? random thoughts - 27/07/2012 02:01:29 PM 702 Views
We can have this conversation w/o you being mean. nossy - 27/07/2012 02:57:02 PM 659 Views
I never claimed I was against repercussions and people here are denying it is censorship random thoughts - 27/07/2012 04:18:54 PM 752 Views
Re: I never claimed I was against repercussions and people here are denying it is censorship nossy - 27/07/2012 05:01:37 PM 663 Views
OK did I miss read what you said? random thoughts - 27/07/2012 06:41:51 PM 823 Views
No, but the disagreement is important. nossy - 27/07/2012 07:09:11 PM 637 Views
Re: I never claimed I was against repercussions and people here are denying it is censorship DomA - 27/07/2012 06:23:17 PM 598 Views
sorry I forgot the Olympic spirit was about banning athletes for dumb jokes they apologized for random thoughts - 27/07/2012 08:30:08 PM 579 Views
You're really not going to make sense of this if you keep mashing everything together. Legolas - 27/07/2012 08:59:35 PM 624 Views
Re: You're really not going to make sense of this if you keep mashing everything together. DomA - 27/07/2012 09:18:08 PM 688 Views
I know who did the banning but the whole organization seems to infested with a certain flavor of PC random thoughts - 30/07/2012 10:11:26 PM 759 Views
Re: sorry I forgot the Olympic spirit was about banning athletes for dumb jokes they apologized for DomA - 27/07/2012 09:01:07 PM 599 Views
I know you said it but do you actually believe it? random thoughts - 27/07/2012 01:56:35 PM 633 Views
It's a good question, but yes, I do. nossy - 27/07/2012 02:42:28 PM 685 Views
Are going to ban everyone and everyone country who says something about anyone else? random thoughts - 27/07/2012 04:47:51 PM 590 Views
Yes, that is clearly exactly what I said. nossy - 27/07/2012 05:10:37 PM 634 Views
i have a feeling you are being influenced by that pic they run with all the articles about her? moondog - 27/07/2012 02:14:13 PM 651 Views
Surely you don't think... Isaac - 27/07/2012 02:57:47 PM 563 Views
Heh. Rebekah - 27/07/2012 05:53:07 PM 779 Views
Typo? There are limits to our credulity... or to mine, anyway. Legolas - 27/07/2012 06:27:44 PM 658 Views
I can honestly say I would not care as much if she were a man and/or ugly Tom - 29/07/2012 03:29:47 AM 740 Views
Looks like Voula Papachristou agrees with Tom Dark Knight - 27/07/2012 07:09:30 PM 681 Views
Quite understandable. But so's the Greek OC's decision. Legolas - 27/07/2012 07:11:31 PM 681 Views
And now a Swiss footabller has gone as well snoopcester - 30/07/2012 08:22:45 PM 696 Views
That's just poor sportsmanship. *NM* Tom - 30/07/2012 08:53:53 PM 466 Views
And now the next incident... this time about an athlete's partner, not the athlete herself. Legolas - 03/08/2012 09:47:27 PM 735 Views
And an Australian athlete has been sent home now snoopcester - 04/08/2012 10:12:12 AM 521 Views
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