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			/NFL: now that replacement refs have cost the packers a win, can we please get the real ones back? *NM*
	    
	         - 25/09/2012 05:14:58 AM
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			Link?  Clip?
	    
	         - 25/09/2012 05:27:07 AM
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			Let's just say that Gruden used the word "Jobbed" in the live telecast. *NM*
	    
	         - 25/09/2012 05:35:08 AM
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			Here's a link.
	    
	         - 25/09/2012 05:36:56 AM
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			Yes and no; that is the link I referenced in my post.
	    
	         - 25/09/2012 05:47:07 AM
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			youtube link
	    
	         - 25/09/2012 07:00:29 AM
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			Thanks; that looks like a textbook case of simultaneous possession, which goes to the receiver: TD.
	    
	         - 25/09/2012 07:29:28 AM
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			pete carroll is a cheating douchebag, you cannot take his word for what happened
	    
	         - 25/09/2012 10:59:33 AM
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			I did not; I watched the clip:  Simultaneous possession, which goes to the receiver.
	    
	         - 26/09/2012 01:30:18 AM
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			watch a better replay if you can
	    
	         - 26/09/2012 02:38:17 AM
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			Have now; still not convinced.
	    
	         - 26/09/2012 04:01:23 AM
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			also, the pass interference on tate that wasn't called is clear at 0:56 in that clip
	    
	         - 25/09/2012 11:27:36 AM
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			Tate was looking for the ball, and raised his hands to catch it, not push off Sam Shields.
	    
	         - 26/09/2012 01:33:46 AM
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			watch a better replay and get back to me on this one.
	    
	         - 26/09/2012 02:36:43 AM
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			Where did the NFL head office acknowledge that?
	    
	         - 26/09/2012 03:52:36 AM
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			in their official response to the whole incident....?
	    
	         - 26/09/2012 04:14:52 AM
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			Fair enough then; the NFLs official position is that offensive PI should have been called.
	    
	         - 26/09/2012 04:45:58 AM
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			Yeah, if one hand counts as possession
	    
	         - 25/09/2012 05:15:37 PM
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			Left hand between Jennings' arms and on the ball; right was outside Jennings' arm and on the ball.
	    
	         - 26/09/2012 01:38:28 AM
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			How have you not seen this play? Are you in a cave? *NM*
	    
	         - 25/09/2012 03:57:55 PM
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			No, I am in Norway, where NFL coverage is rather limited.
	    
	         - 26/09/2012 01:40:07 AM
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			Wait, you're not in Houston? *NM*
	    
	         - 26/09/2012 01:42:45 AM
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			Not since the Texas Sesquicentennial, no.
		
	         - 26/09/2012 01:45:29 AM
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			While you can hardly blame the replacement refs because they are basically trainees...
	    
	         - 25/09/2012 06:05:22 AM
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			Now I really want to see this play.
	    
	         - 25/09/2012 06:27:42 AM
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			Re: Now I really want to see this play.
	    
	         - 25/09/2012 02:48:56 PM
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			I have still only seen the YouTube clip, but it looked like they both had both hands on the ball.
	    
	         - 26/09/2012 01:58:27 AM
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			You might appreciate learning that the Lingerie Football League fired some of these refs
	    
	         - 25/09/2012 07:19:37 AM
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			Tie goes to the receiver - the rule for decades. The Packers benefitted from worse calls last year
	    
	         - 25/09/2012 11:31:47 AM
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			you probably think greedo shot first too.....
	    
	         - 25/09/2012 01:49:03 PM
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			Possession doesn't mean squat until you land. Tate had it by then
	    
	         - 25/09/2012 03:13:29 PM
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			he had nothing until they landed and he tried to pull it away. everyone but you agrees on this *NM*
	    
	         - 25/09/2012 03:25:43 PM
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			Not so; Cannoli and I agree on pretty much every point involved in this play.
	    
	         - 26/09/2012 02:17:01 AM
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			They can't reverse that call.
	    
	         - 25/09/2012 04:43:28 PM
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			the only possible way was to rule it incomplete
	    
	         - 25/09/2012 10:42:25 PM
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			It was very obviously caught; you can't rule that incomplete.
	    
	         - 25/09/2012 11:06:17 PM
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			my philosophy is "interception = incomplete" but i think that's only for stats purposes
	    
	         - 26/09/2012 12:32:43 AM
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			Congrats Cannoli, you are the only person (thing?) in the country who thinks it's a TD *NM*
	    
	         - 25/09/2012 03:53:18 PM
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			I'm not even the only person in this thread, moron. *NM*
	    
	         - 25/09/2012 04:07:48 PM
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			Joel hasn't even seen the play, douchebag *NM*
	    
	         - 25/09/2012 04:12:35 PM
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			I have seen enough of it, and while I did not write Cannolis response, I easily could have.
	    
	         - 26/09/2012 02:06:45 AM
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			Slightly (very) loopy yet entertaining piece on why Ayn Rand is to blame for all of this.
	    
	         - 25/09/2012 05:38:12 PM
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			She hates revenue sharing, salary caps & the draft, too, but the Pack would be screwed without each.
	    
	         - 26/09/2012 03:34:00 AM
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			Here's the proof Cannoli is refusing to see
	    
	         - 25/09/2012 05:54:07 PM
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			Clearer shot, but stills do not allow us to see where Tates hands were at all times.
	    
	         - 26/09/2012 02:10:25 AM
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			you can't claim "good ol' strip" *AND* simultaneous catch -- which is it?
	    
	         - 26/09/2012 02:35:41 AM
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			I do not claim both:  I claim simultaneous catch but IF not, then strip.
	    
	         - 26/09/2012 03:51:47 AM
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			you sure you saw the right replay?
	    
	         - 26/09/2012 04:21:57 AM
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			Think so, yeah.
	    
	         - 26/09/2012 04:58:15 AM
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			from another angle -- pun intended
	    
	         - 26/09/2012 04:01:54 PM
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			There are two separate issues:  1) Was it a simultaneous catch; 2) IF not, was it a strip?
	    
	         - 27/09/2012 08:54:52 AM
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			your opinion is against pretty much everyone in the world, so..... *shrug*
	    
	         - 27/09/2012 03:55:33 PM
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			Thanks; I did not expect you to give in so easily.
	    
	         - 27/09/2012 10:14:30 PM
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			did you even read that article???
	    
	         - 28/09/2012 12:35:39 AM
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			"his control wasn’t established again...."
	    
	         - 28/09/2012 01:08:03 AM
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			wow, what a thorough analysis you sent me  either way, you're still wrong
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	     either way, you're still wrong
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			Worst calls are made all the time by the regular officials.
	    
	         - 26/09/2012 01:23:57 AM
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			yes, but not usually more than one per game, certainly not several in a single weekend.... *NM*
	    
	         - 26/09/2012 02:39:56 AM
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