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Not so; Cannoli and I agree on pretty much every point involved in this play. Joel Send a noteboard - 26/09/2012 02:17:01 AM
Even if I conceded your position Tate never had possession till they came down (which I do not,) strips happen all the time in football, and no one ever said, "no, the other player already had, and therefore cannot loose, possession." Until now. From the few shots I have seen I am not even sure Jennings would have been ruled down after the catch (since it looks like everything but his feet was either in the air or on top of Tate,) and even if he HAD uncontested possession initially (which, again, I do not concede,) Tate would still legally be able to strip him until Jennings was down and the play finished.
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/NFL: now that replacement refs have cost the packers a win, can we please get the real ones back? *NM* - 25/09/2012 05:14:58 AM 736 Views
I was gonna keep it to one thread, but hell, I'll join yours. - 25/09/2012 05:24:26 AM 863 Views
Link? Clip? - 25/09/2012 05:27:07 AM 820 Views
Let's just say that Gruden used the word "Jobbed" in the live telecast. *NM* - 25/09/2012 05:35:08 AM 526 Views
Here's a link. - 25/09/2012 05:36:56 AM 918 Views
Yes and no; that is the link I referenced in my post. - 25/09/2012 05:47:07 AM 740 Views
Re: Yes and no; that is the link I referenced in my post. - 25/09/2012 05:52:55 AM 972 Views
Re: Yes and no; that is the link I referenced in my post. - 25/09/2012 06:13:46 AM 925 Views
youtube link - 25/09/2012 07:00:29 AM 953 Views
Thanks; that looks like a textbook case of simultaneous possession, which goes to the receiver: TD. - 25/09/2012 07:29:28 AM 818 Views
pete carroll is a cheating douchebag, you cannot take his word for what happened - 25/09/2012 10:59:33 AM 1091 Views
I did not; I watched the clip: Simultaneous possession, which goes to the receiver. - 26/09/2012 01:30:18 AM 1422 Views
watch a better replay if you can - 26/09/2012 02:38:17 AM 880 Views
Have now; still not convinced. - 26/09/2012 04:01:23 AM 938 Views
that's ok. you're still wrong - 26/09/2012 04:12:56 AM 942 Views
I know you are but what am I? *MN* - 26/09/2012 04:48:47 AM 874 Views
How have you not seen this play? Are you in a cave? *NM* - 25/09/2012 03:57:55 PM 427 Views
No, I am in Norway, where NFL coverage is rather limited. - 26/09/2012 01:40:07 AM 1025 Views
Wait, you're not in Houston? *NM* - 26/09/2012 01:42:45 AM 443 Views
Not since the Texas Sesquicentennial, no. - 26/09/2012 01:45:29 AM 786 Views
While you can hardly blame the replacement refs because they are basically trainees... - 25/09/2012 06:05:22 AM 1008 Views
Now I really want to see this play. - 25/09/2012 06:27:42 AM 1019 Views
Re: Now I really want to see this play. - 25/09/2012 02:48:56 PM 923 Views
I have still only seen the YouTube clip, but it looked like they both had both hands on the ball. - 26/09/2012 01:58:27 AM 844 Views
There are good views on nfl.com. Will link. - 26/09/2012 02:16:51 AM 1017 Views
Thanks; I still do not see much to change my mind. - 26/09/2012 02:32:43 AM 933 Views
The last call was a joke. - 25/09/2012 06:52:59 AM 881 Views
Tie goes to the receiver - the rule for decades. The Packers benefitted from worse calls last year - 25/09/2012 11:31:47 AM 931 Views
you probably think greedo shot first too..... - 25/09/2012 01:49:03 PM 889 Views
Possession doesn't mean squat until you land. Tate had it by then - 25/09/2012 03:13:29 PM 884 Views
he had nothing until they landed and he tried to pull it away. everyone but you agrees on this *NM* - 25/09/2012 03:25:43 PM 416 Views
Not so; Cannoli and I agree on pretty much every point involved in this play. - 26/09/2012 02:17:01 AM 863 Views
They can't reverse that call. - 25/09/2012 04:43:28 PM 965 Views
the only possible way was to rule it incomplete - 25/09/2012 10:42:25 PM 961 Views
Congrats Cannoli, you are the only person (thing?) in the country who thinks it's a TD *NM* - 25/09/2012 03:53:18 PM 550 Views
I'm not even the only person in this thread, moron. *NM* - 25/09/2012 04:07:48 PM 463 Views
Joel hasn't even seen the play, douchebag *NM* - 25/09/2012 04:12:35 PM 427 Views
Just so you can get this information without namecalling ... - 25/09/2012 04:18:41 PM 853 Views
No I mean he hasn't seen the replay over and over on ESPN *NM* - 25/09/2012 04:21:46 PM 430 Views
Interesting. What is the rule with arguing refs? - 25/09/2012 05:18:35 PM 813 Views
That response was disturbingly like my thoughts on the play. - 26/09/2012 01:49:37 AM 897 Views
As a Seahawks fan. - 25/09/2012 02:10:58 PM 854 Views
No. Not with that attitude. *NM* - 25/09/2012 04:03:32 PM 411 Views
*throws public tantrum* *NM* - 25/09/2012 10:39:22 PM 395 Views
Here's the proof Cannoli is refusing to see - 25/09/2012 05:54:07 PM 953 Views
Clearer shot, but stills do not allow us to see where Tates hands were at all times. - 26/09/2012 02:10:25 AM 751 Views
you can't claim "good ol' strip" *AND* simultaneous catch -- which is it? - 26/09/2012 02:35:41 AM 1191 Views
I do not claim both: I claim simultaneous catch but IF not, then strip. - 26/09/2012 03:51:47 AM 1192 Views
you sure you saw the right replay? - 26/09/2012 04:21:57 AM 863 Views
Think so, yeah. - 26/09/2012 04:58:15 AM 1017 Views
from another angle -- pun intended - 26/09/2012 04:01:54 PM 851 Views
There are two separate issues: 1) Was it a simultaneous catch; 2) IF not, was it a strip? - 27/09/2012 08:54:52 AM 1044 Views
your opinion is against pretty much everyone in the world, so..... *shrug* - 27/09/2012 03:55:33 PM 1090 Views
Thanks; I did not expect you to give in so easily. - 27/09/2012 10:14:30 PM 894 Views
did you even read that article??? - 28/09/2012 12:35:39 AM 896 Views
"his control wasn’t established again...." - 28/09/2012 01:08:03 AM 1361 Views
wow, what a thorough analysis you sent me either way, you're still wrong - 28/09/2012 02:05:24 AM 1003 Views
That is not an argument. - 28/09/2012 02:26:58 AM 797 Views

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