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from another angle -- pun intended moondog Send a noteboard - 26/09/2012 04:01:54 PM
the position you keep arguing is that -- in the specific situation when a defender catches a pass for an interception and a receiver is right there to try to stop him from making the interception -- if the receiver tries to take the ball away from the defender at any point after the interception has been made, all he has to do is keep one hand on the ball while they go to the ground and it is a simultaneous catch.

there is no point where tate has CLEAR possession of the ball but there are several points where jennings does. in the last frame of the picture above the ball is clearly against jennings' body and tate is underneath him. not only that, but tate's right arm is ON JENNINGS and not the ball. i can think of no ruling ever in the history of the NFL where this was considered a simultaneous possession until monday night.
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/NFL: now that replacement refs have cost the packers a win, can we please get the real ones back? *NM* - 25/09/2012 05:14:58 AM 701 Views
I was gonna keep it to one thread, but hell, I'll join yours. - 25/09/2012 05:24:26 AM 780 Views
Link? Clip? - 25/09/2012 05:27:07 AM 736 Views
Let's just say that Gruden used the word "Jobbed" in the live telecast. *NM* - 25/09/2012 05:35:08 AM 454 Views
Here's a link. - 25/09/2012 05:36:56 AM 835 Views
Yes and no; that is the link I referenced in my post. - 25/09/2012 05:47:07 AM 655 Views
Re: Yes and no; that is the link I referenced in my post. - 25/09/2012 05:52:55 AM 886 Views
Re: Yes and no; that is the link I referenced in my post. - 25/09/2012 06:13:46 AM 841 Views
youtube link - 25/09/2012 07:00:29 AM 858 Views
Thanks; that looks like a textbook case of simultaneous possession, which goes to the receiver: TD. - 25/09/2012 07:29:28 AM 739 Views
pete carroll is a cheating douchebag, you cannot take his word for what happened - 25/09/2012 10:59:33 AM 1006 Views
I did not; I watched the clip: Simultaneous possession, which goes to the receiver. - 26/09/2012 01:30:18 AM 1347 Views
watch a better replay if you can - 26/09/2012 02:38:17 AM 802 Views
Have now; still not convinced. - 26/09/2012 04:01:23 AM 850 Views
that's ok. you're still wrong - 26/09/2012 04:12:56 AM 861 Views
I know you are but what am I? *MN* - 26/09/2012 04:48:47 AM 802 Views
How have you not seen this play? Are you in a cave? *NM* - 25/09/2012 03:57:55 PM 391 Views
No, I am in Norway, where NFL coverage is rather limited. - 26/09/2012 01:40:07 AM 954 Views
Wait, you're not in Houston? *NM* - 26/09/2012 01:42:45 AM 410 Views
Not since the Texas Sesquicentennial, no. - 26/09/2012 01:45:29 AM 719 Views
While you can hardly blame the replacement refs because they are basically trainees... - 25/09/2012 06:05:22 AM 920 Views
Now I really want to see this play. - 25/09/2012 06:27:42 AM 917 Views
Re: Now I really want to see this play. - 25/09/2012 02:48:56 PM 832 Views
I have still only seen the YouTube clip, but it looked like they both had both hands on the ball. - 26/09/2012 01:58:27 AM 754 Views
There are good views on nfl.com. Will link. - 26/09/2012 02:16:51 AM 899 Views
Thanks; I still do not see much to change my mind. - 26/09/2012 02:32:43 AM 828 Views
The last call was a joke. - 25/09/2012 06:52:59 AM 784 Views
Tie goes to the receiver - the rule for decades. The Packers benefitted from worse calls last year - 25/09/2012 11:31:47 AM 858 Views
you probably think greedo shot first too..... - 25/09/2012 01:49:03 PM 804 Views
They can't reverse that call. - 25/09/2012 04:43:28 PM 889 Views
the only possible way was to rule it incomplete - 25/09/2012 10:42:25 PM 866 Views
Congrats Cannoli, you are the only person (thing?) in the country who thinks it's a TD *NM* - 25/09/2012 03:53:18 PM 519 Views
I'm not even the only person in this thread, moron. *NM* - 25/09/2012 04:07:48 PM 425 Views
Joel hasn't even seen the play, douchebag *NM* - 25/09/2012 04:12:35 PM 391 Views
Just so you can get this information without namecalling ... - 25/09/2012 04:18:41 PM 776 Views
No I mean he hasn't seen the replay over and over on ESPN *NM* - 25/09/2012 04:21:46 PM 397 Views
Interesting. What is the rule with arguing refs? - 25/09/2012 05:18:35 PM 724 Views
That response was disturbingly like my thoughts on the play. - 26/09/2012 01:49:37 AM 817 Views
As a Seahawks fan. - 25/09/2012 02:10:58 PM 772 Views
No. Not with that attitude. *NM* - 25/09/2012 04:03:32 PM 374 Views
*throws public tantrum* *NM* - 25/09/2012 10:39:22 PM 361 Views
Here's the proof Cannoli is refusing to see - 25/09/2012 05:54:07 PM 869 Views
Clearer shot, but stills do not allow us to see where Tates hands were at all times. - 26/09/2012 02:10:25 AM 673 Views
you can't claim "good ol' strip" *AND* simultaneous catch -- which is it? - 26/09/2012 02:35:41 AM 1104 Views
I do not claim both: I claim simultaneous catch but IF not, then strip. - 26/09/2012 03:51:47 AM 1103 Views
you sure you saw the right replay? - 26/09/2012 04:21:57 AM 779 Views
Think so, yeah. - 26/09/2012 04:58:15 AM 925 Views
from another angle -- pun intended - 26/09/2012 04:01:54 PM 777 Views
There are two separate issues: 1) Was it a simultaneous catch; 2) IF not, was it a strip? - 27/09/2012 08:54:52 AM 954 Views
your opinion is against pretty much everyone in the world, so..... *shrug* - 27/09/2012 03:55:33 PM 1004 Views
Thanks; I did not expect you to give in so easily. - 27/09/2012 10:14:30 PM 814 Views
did you even read that article??? - 28/09/2012 12:35:39 AM 824 Views
"his control wasn’t established again...." - 28/09/2012 01:08:03 AM 1153 Views
wow, what a thorough analysis you sent me either way, you're still wrong - 28/09/2012 02:05:24 AM 906 Views
That is not an argument. - 28/09/2012 02:26:58 AM 720 Views

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