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That limitation is still prejudicial and somewhat arbitrary. Joel Send a noteboard - 22/10/2012 04:25:25 PM
We traditionally say "rights" but marriage is, from a legal perspective, a privileged relationship in which the partners enjoy certain legal preferences that are not granted outside marriage. I think this is the key point that must be stressed, however, because the straw man argument that gay marriage will lead to polygamy, letting people marry animals, etc., is a flawed one. If we say that we have created a special legal status between two individuals, then same-sex couples have a claim that the way the privilege is set up is discriminatory. This is an equal protection claim. Imagine if marriage were defined as "the legal union between one white man and one white woman" and you see the crux of the argument. The "rights" only come in when we look at the Constitutional right to equal protection under the law.

If, however, the privilege is set up as one for only two people, then people who say they have a polygamous relationship are not in a position to claim that they do not enjoy equal protection, because the relationship has been defined as a two-person relationship. After all, if we expand to three, we could expand to 100, or 10,000. So, consequently, we can create a privilege for two and exclude three (though we could just as easily allow it if we wanted to, without being obligated to on a Constitutional basis), but I don't think we can create a privilege for two and then set conditions on who the two people can be.

Hence Cannoli contends gay marriage bans are qualitatively different than miscegenation bans because the latter "arbitrarily exclud[e] groups due to invalid criteria." Obviously the arbitrariness there is his, but what makes the "monogamy" criterion any less arbitrary/more valid than the "heterosexual" or "anti-miscegenation" ones?

I understand it poses practical problems for spouse benefits from private entities, but the Equal Protection Clause has less force on them than on government. Nothing prevents employers/insurers/any private entity restricting spouse benefits to an individual rather than any and all spouses. Joint inheritance is hardly novel; competing divergent interests frequently complicate it, but the legal system manages to endure.
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For all you supporters of Gay Marriage: What about polygamy? - 20/10/2012 12:02:06 AM 1316 Views
Legal rights. - 20/10/2012 12:14:10 AM 720 Views
It almost sounds like you are saying... - 20/10/2012 12:31:40 AM 692 Views
That is what I'm saying it. - 20/10/2012 01:07:50 AM 673 Views
Technically, privileges, not rights. - 20/10/2012 04:16:45 AM 679 Views
Sure - 20/10/2012 12:35:53 AM 607 Views
All for it... For adults over the age of 18. *NM* - 20/10/2012 01:18:04 AM 367 Views
What about it? - 20/10/2012 01:21:17 AM 683 Views
+1 *NM* - 20/10/2012 01:51:25 AM 394 Views
+2 *NM* - 20/10/2012 11:18:39 AM 351 Views
should be legal, would be nice for poly people. should include polygyny and polyandry. *NM* - 20/10/2012 03:29:05 AM 348 Views
poly people? - 20/10/2012 12:44:01 PM 647 Views
Government needs to stop legislating morality. So yes *NM* - 20/10/2012 03:36:37 AM 344 Views
That's a huge chunk of what government does. - 20/10/2012 04:35:45 PM 650 Views
That's not what I'm saying - 21/10/2012 03:21:08 AM 668 Views
So you're opposed to abortion and gun control then? Welcome aboard! - 21/10/2012 06:14:14 AM 618 Views
Why do you keep talking about gay marriage and polygamy in the same sentence.. - 20/10/2012 03:58:26 AM 694 Views
Get a grip. Your response is just what I tried to avoid. - 20/10/2012 04:33:40 AM 611 Views
The more fool you. - 21/10/2012 05:55:30 AM 706 Views
Ha! Point. *NM* - 20/10/2012 05:40:34 AM 534 Views
Marriage is always a choice, whatever the motive(s.) - 22/10/2012 04:00:40 PM 630 Views
I have no problem with polygamy being legal, but marriage is a privilege and can be limited to two. - 20/10/2012 04:16:08 AM 703 Views
That limitation is still prejudicial and somewhat arbitrary. - 22/10/2012 04:25:25 PM 861 Views
I got no opinion on it. - 20/10/2012 12:51:43 PM 732 Views
The idea of a group marriage makes me uncomfortable - 20/10/2012 04:19:48 PM 619 Views
As long as it is equitable - 20/10/2012 05:55:57 PM 612 Views
The state shouldn't even recognize marriage beyond name changes anyway - 21/10/2012 03:52:40 AM 681 Views
Indeed - 21/10/2012 06:04:41 AM 735 Views
I don't give a damn what you call it. That's your business. - 21/10/2012 06:17:40 AM 1002 Views
And so? - 21/10/2012 07:05:08 AM 646 Views
Re: And so? - 21/10/2012 04:10:19 PM 811 Views
Legal contracts must be open to all consenting adults, or none. - 22/10/2012 03:11:55 PM 691 Views
You are correct, yet your reasoning is flawed. - 23/10/2012 03:20:25 PM 623 Views
Again, the Equal Protection Clause has far less force on private entities than on government. - 23/10/2012 03:52:06 PM 553 Views
Much less force, yes. - 23/10/2012 04:15:03 PM 557 Views
The crux is "If it's my business, it's my business." - 23/10/2012 04:43:25 PM 633 Views
+1 *NM* - 23/10/2012 07:36:46 PM 286 Views
No the analogy is not exact, nor legally the same... - 23/10/2012 07:33:25 PM 523 Views
Analogy is not equality, only similarity. - 24/10/2012 04:37:29 PM 725 Views
We aren't asking for something better or different. - 23/10/2012 04:27:04 PM 619 Views
yeah, it is very circular. - 23/10/2012 07:44:33 PM 647 Views

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