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Re: The crux is "If it's my business, it's my business." Burr Send a noteboard - 23/10/2012 07:15:17 PM
That covers a lot of ground, and I tried to avoid going there after getting into it a while back over equal opportunity housing and related laws. The bottom line is that we cannot, or should not, ban bigotry itself. Free democratic societies tend to gradually reduce bigotry by ostracizing bigots (which is not "bigotry against bigots" because it rejects behavior, not people.) What we cannot do is let the majority dictate what everyone believes or how they choose to dispose of their own property. Unfortunately, that means businesses ought to be able to post "Irish need not apply" signs if willing to deal with the loss of trade such practices provoke.


I'll bite. How should the Civil Rights Act have been written in order to reverse stagnant attitudes about racial employment when it came to African-Americans such that the law read in a way that could still be universalized -- without referring to a grouping phrase like "on the basis of race"? If you referred instead to "all individuals" or "no individuals," it seems to me you'd be invariably crossing the line where employers can't hire or fire anyone at all for reasons other than direct qualifications. That might work for a very generic business, but any business going for a certain image or flavor would have a tough time of it. Law firms would have to hire people who refuse to wear suits, for instance, just because those people may be well qualified at law.

(Of course, maybe I am just an old fuddy-duddy in my own way.)
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The more fool you. - 21/10/2012 05:55:30 AM 835 Views
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Re: And so? - 21/10/2012 04:10:19 PM 959 Views
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The crux is "If it's my business, it's my business." - 23/10/2012 04:43:25 PM 766 Views
Re: The crux is "If it's my business, it's my business." - 23/10/2012 07:15:17 PM 704 Views
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yeah, it is very circular. - 23/10/2012 07:44:33 PM 789 Views

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