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I cited two in response to her, and those were just the ones I remember off the top of my head. Joel Send a noteboard - 28/12/2012 11:07:36 PM
I think I'm tempted to just automatically link that into all gun-control talks and refuse to discuss anything further till they've read it, because I really haven't seen let alone typed anything so logical, accurate, comprehensive, and well said on the subject. Thanks for the link.

I read it a week or two ago, so will continue. ;) A concealed carry instructor wrote a long blog post manipulating the historical record to justify unrestricted gun access, and people who already agreed with him say they still do: Wow. That does not make him accurate, Cicero or anything but a biased activist his fellows support.

It is a long piece, and I do not feel like digging through all of its tortured "logic" like I did a week or two ago; once was more than sufficient.
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Poll: 54 percent view NRA favorably Anonymous2000 - 28/12/2012 04:23:35 AM 1284 Views
Hahahaha. That is full of shit. OMG. Thanks for the laughs. *NM* callandor1000 - 28/12/2012 06:30:08 AM 586 Views
I have this to say about that... DREWRULESWOT! - 28/12/2012 07:10:52 AM 1091 Views
That was rather long but probably one of the best things I've read this year Isaac - 28/12/2012 02:31:24 PM 829 Views
Excellent article by a knowledgable individual armed with facts. *NM* HyogaRott - 28/12/2012 04:36:23 PM 417 Views
See my response to Novo. Joel - 28/12/2012 06:28:00 PM 931 Views
please cite the errors, manipulations, or lies. HyogaRott - 28/12/2012 09:30:28 PM 877 Views
I cited two in response to her, and those were just the ones I remember off the top of my head. Joel - 28/12/2012 11:07:36 PM 1035 Views
If you can't remember them, then don't claim them *NM* Isaac - 29/12/2012 03:08:08 AM 472 Views
Two just from memory is enough to substantiate my claim. Joel - 29/12/2012 03:35:49 AM 916 Views
'Substantiate your claim'? I don't think you're lying, I just don't feel any reason to be swayed... Isaac - 29/12/2012 04:00:10 AM 804 Views
... and probably never will, but, alright, here we go: Joel - 05/01/2013 06:53:23 PM 889 Views
Probably, but at least I'll listen Isaac - 05/01/2013 08:30:48 PM 920 Views
The 2 things you attempted to "cite" were absolute nonsense and proved nothing. HyogaRott - 31/12/2012 06:00:00 PM 882 Views
Was that response meant for me or Correia? Joel - 05/01/2013 07:04:31 PM 841 Views
Re: I have this to say about that... Novo - 28/12/2012 05:23:44 PM 1033 Views
Never point a gun at anything you are not going to shoot, nor shoot anything you do not mean to kill Joel - 28/12/2012 06:13:20 PM 916 Views
Still losing the gun debate and it's driving you a little crazy isn't it! Anonymous2000 - 28/12/2012 06:40:51 PM 765 Views
Gallup: 58% want more gun control; Ipsos: 70% want more gun control, 90% want background checks. Joel - 28/12/2012 10:29:50 PM 923 Views
..and 100% want to win the lottery, but it isn't going to happen. HyogaRott - 05/01/2013 02:17:50 PM 1004 Views
None of that prohibits regulation, only outright bans. Joel - 05/01/2013 05:25:56 PM 961 Views
I totally disagree with that, it is just wrong-headed Isaac - 29/12/2012 03:51:19 AM 1049 Views
Re: I have this to say about that...Actually, modern military weapons are constructed to wound Floffe - 29/12/2012 08:43:49 PM 1012 Views
Great read, thanks for posting! *NM* Anonymous2000 - 28/12/2012 05:52:29 PM 417 Views
Yeah, uh, no. Not until you do some serious background checks on teachers. Ghavrel - 29/12/2012 01:00:20 AM 967 Views
GOP estimates of teacher competence have increased to the point of giving them concealed guns. Joel - 29/12/2012 02:36:08 AM 1050 Views
You know the GOP is unlikely to object to background check on teachers, the unions might Isaac - 29/12/2012 02:56:06 AM 901 Views
Thanks for posting that, I enjoyed it a lot A Deathwatch Guard - 29/12/2012 01:36:33 AM 855 Views
his premise is "there's already too many guns so why bother trying anything at all now" moondog - 07/01/2013 06:27:20 PM 918 Views
I don't think that's his sole premise but it's also quite true Isaac - 07/01/2013 07:05:20 PM 939 Views
i think you're missing a piece of the puzzle moondog - 07/01/2013 07:23:02 PM 886 Views
I'm not missing it, I just don't think it's wise or especially moral Isaac - 07/01/2013 09:36:05 PM 942 Views
moral has nothing to do with it, imho moondog - 07/01/2013 11:26:00 PM 1000 Views
Re: moral has nothing to do with it, imho Isaac - 08/01/2013 05:40:46 AM 833 Views
last thoughts..... moondog - 08/01/2013 05:18:35 PM 873 Views
Data is data my friend. Please feel free to present your own data if you would like. *NM* Anonymous2000 - 28/12/2012 05:49:09 PM 434 Views
Well I was referring more to the timing of collecting data. callandor1000 - 29/12/2012 04:28:01 AM 1088 Views
Is that the same Gallup that said 54% of America would vote Romney? Joel - 28/12/2012 06:15:43 PM 1035 Views
Once again data is data.....feel free to cite other polling data. *NM* Anonymous2000 - 28/12/2012 06:38:29 PM 433 Views
The goddamn frigging election. *NM* Stephen - 28/12/2012 07:13:04 PM 430 Views
Oh, was the NRA running for something? Good grief, was a ridiculous reach. *NM* Anonymous2000 - 28/12/2012 08:07:56 PM 441 Views
No, but it shows Gallup polls are horseshit. *NM* Stephen - 28/12/2012 08:48:12 PM 426 Views
No it doesn't, it only shows that Romney was more awful of a candidate than Obama was. *NM* Anonymous2000 - 28/12/2012 09:14:00 PM 449 Views
Not according to Gallup, just most US voters; Gallup DOES say 58% of the US wants more gun control. Joel - 28/12/2012 10:22:19 PM 1091 Views
Yes. Most of us aren't against guns per se; we're against the inane concepts of gun "shows" Ghavrel - 29/12/2012 01:06:50 AM 823 Views
Exactly, crazy libs like Joel want to get rid of all guns, but normal Americans..... Anonymous2000 - 29/12/2012 01:36:00 AM 867 Views
Link a single post where I said I wanted to get rid of all guns. Joel - 29/12/2012 02:29:53 AM 936 Views
Then what would you suggest? Great Lord of Chaos - 29/12/2012 07:23:27 AM 1007 Views
Too bad the radical fringe on both sides drowns us both out so well. Joel - 29/12/2012 02:25:31 AM 978 Views
Previous polling failures by Gallup are evidence for the claim that Gallup polls are flawed. Ghavrel - 29/12/2012 01:05:08 AM 991 Views
Gallup was Romney +1 with +/- 4% on Election Day.....turned out Obama +3. Anonymous2000 - 29/12/2012 01:33:45 AM 818 Views
So what I don't understand about this whole teachers with gun thing Spriteling - 30/12/2012 12:42:05 AM 954 Views
It would strictly be voluntary Isaac - 30/12/2012 03:02:18 AM 928 Views
You seriously don't think a linebacker can take a gun off a 5' teacher?He can just punch her. Ghavrel - 30/12/2012 09:45:05 AM 925 Views
He can already punch her, not all schools are high schools and that's not the norm for spree killers Isaac - 30/12/2012 03:05:55 PM 1017 Views
Leveling that playing field is much of the point of guns. Joel - 05/01/2013 05:43:47 PM 959 Views
You aren't familiar with guns if you think that a large male can't disarm a woman who has one. Ghavrel - 07/01/2013 10:14:21 AM 931 Views
Well Paul Ali Slater didn't, disarming is risky, and he seems familiar enough with them to me *NM* Isaac - 07/01/2013 01:25:28 PM 492 Views
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