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You seem to have trouble understanding that an accusation isn't proof SilverWarder Send a noteboard - 30/09/2009 11:04:35 PM
As much sympathy as I have for him getting cheated out of what he thought was 30 days in a hospital for raping a child and the understandable level of frustration he must have felt at being told he may actually have to spend time in prison for what he sees as nothing more then a little sport I would think his lawyer would have had enough sense to get it in writing. I mean she wasn’t even a virgin. I guess technically she was an anal virgin but hey that is what she gets for not being on the pill.


Actually it was over 40 days in a maximum security penitentiary (specifically Chino Men's in California).

As to the whole drugging and raping stuff - none of that was proven and the charges were dropped.

Anyone can make accusations. They are not always true. It's not that hard a concept.
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/History/Politics/I'm not sure: A commentary on the Roman Polanski arrest - 29/09/2009 10:15:12 AM 1388 Views
And a NYT article on the same topic - 29/09/2009 10:51:58 AM 449 Views
There's some seriously twisted logic in this - 29/09/2009 11:53:41 AM 585 Views
Re: There's some seriously twisted logic in this - 29/09/2009 11:57:18 AM 684 Views
Re: There's some seriously twisted logic in this - 29/09/2009 12:09:27 PM 436 Views
Re: There's some seriously twisted logic in this - 29/09/2009 12:15:54 PM 549 Views
Re: There's some seriously twisted logic in this - 29/09/2009 12:41:56 PM 553 Views
Re: There's some seriously twisted logic in this - 29/09/2009 12:47:05 PM 565 Views
There is a word which describes the famous film director - 29/09/2009 01:05:56 PM 483 Views
There is a massive difference between Genet and Polanski - 29/09/2009 01:32:41 PM 683 Views
Yeah, there is - 29/09/2009 03:41:11 PM 520 Views
if the guy was someone else, do you think anyone would care? - 29/09/2009 02:08:15 PM 565 Views
For thousands of years 13yos have been having sex with much older males. - 29/09/2009 02:46:27 PM 508 Views
Lots of things have been going on for thousands of years. - 29/09/2009 03:35:06 PM 451 Views
Well on the flip side - 29/09/2009 03:49:35 PM 552 Views
Absolutely true enough. - 29/09/2009 04:11:28 PM 613 Views
Agreed - 29/09/2009 04:37:38 PM 562 Views
with you on this. *NM* - 30/09/2009 05:05:21 PM 334 Views
if you were talking "consensual", i'd probably at least grudgingly agree - 29/09/2009 04:07:08 PM 552 Views
Problem is that we don't know - 29/09/2009 04:46:15 PM 544 Views
he said/she said/lawyer said - 29/09/2009 05:01:41 PM 599 Views
Yep - 29/09/2009 05:28:16 PM 577 Views
I was not under the impression he did not know she was a minor - 29/09/2009 05:50:38 PM 572 Views
Well, Angelica Huston (who was there that night) didn't think she looked 'like a minor' - 29/09/2009 06:17:15 PM 600 Views
Whoa - what's with the double post? *NM* - 29/09/2009 06:17:33 PM 339 Views
Or the triple post! *NM* - 29/09/2009 06:18:13 PM 315 Views
It was a photo shoot for a film why WOULD she look like a minor?? - 29/09/2009 06:27:00 PM 599 Views
Sorry - no it wasn't for a film at all - 29/09/2009 06:39:14 PM 499 Views
I believe at some point it wasn mentioned to be connected to a film - 29/09/2009 06:42:25 PM 384 Views
I've never seen anything to support that - 29/09/2009 07:01:56 PM 402 Views
even if the paperwork didn't show it - 29/09/2009 07:06:02 PM 583 Views
Possibly - 29/09/2009 07:35:33 PM 584 Views
and i'm saying that if it was under contest - 29/09/2009 07:38:24 PM 544 Views
Do you understand how the legal system works in Common Law? - 29/09/2009 07:53:34 PM 551 Views
*shake head* wahtever - 29/09/2009 08:07:25 PM 515 Views
here is a photo of her taken that same year. - 29/09/2009 08:10:21 PM 613 Views
Seen that one as part of my research on this - 29/09/2009 08:22:33 PM 623 Views
I think it very telling that you want to take this line of when Polanski doesn't - 29/09/2009 08:36:47 PM 477 Views
Really? Who says? - 29/09/2009 08:42:38 PM 531 Views
I can't prove it wasn't aliens using mind control rays that forced him to do it - 29/09/2009 08:57:10 PM 437 Views
There is one thing I would like to say. - 29/09/2009 09:03:06 PM 440 Views
Absolutely unacceptable behavior for an administrator, Avendesora. - 30/09/2009 10:44:32 PM 528 Views
Looks like an accidental edit instead of a reply to me. *NM* - 01/10/2009 01:42:33 PM 303 Views
Agreed. I've almost done that a few times on my board. *NM* - 01/10/2009 04:08:44 PM 321 Views
actually, it was an honest mistake. I accidentally clicked on "edit" instead of "reply". - 01/10/2009 06:25:48 PM 403 Views
No worries Ave - 01/10/2009 06:41:51 PM 385 Views
Ah. Sorry. - 02/10/2009 02:10:34 AM 527 Views
14-16 - 02/10/2009 05:28:02 AM 389 Views
he could have had a trial and chose not to - 29/09/2009 05:41:11 PM 557 Views
*agree* *NM* - 29/09/2009 05:50:56 PM 195 Views
Yes, he could have - 29/09/2009 05:56:05 PM 518 Views
so he fled the country to spare her the humilation of a trial? - 29/09/2009 08:11:59 PM 546 Views
Nope - 29/09/2009 08:28:58 PM 411 Views
no it isn't but you seem to have trouble understanding he drugged and rapped a child - 30/09/2009 09:24:53 PM 597 Views
You seem to have trouble understanding that an accusation isn't proof - 30/09/2009 11:04:35 PM 565 Views
The coward fled the country before anything could be proven - 01/10/2009 06:25:27 AM 555 Views
You really don't get it do you? - 01/10/2009 04:20:36 PM 355 Views
I don't get it?????? - 01/10/2009 05:22:51 PM 437 Views
Yeah - you don't and it's a good thing you're not part of the legal system - 01/10/2009 05:32:57 PM 521 Views
I call Bullshit here. Sorry Greg. - 29/09/2009 05:28:21 PM 556 Views
You're perfectly entitled to your opinions. - 29/09/2009 08:11:17 PM 501 Views
Yes, and people have been murdering each other. - 29/09/2009 05:35:26 PM 576 Views
We have no evidence of trauma. - 29/09/2009 08:12:44 PM 579 Views
For thousands of years gays have been persecuted and treated as abhorrent perverts. - 02/10/2009 02:57:47 AM 567 Views
And a big fuck you to you too. - 05/10/2009 03:08:09 PM 386 Views
He's just a troll, as he's shown in many threads. *NM* - 05/10/2009 03:19:14 PM 292 Views
Yes, it's not like I have a valid point or anything. *NM* - 05/10/2009 07:16:13 PM 302 Views
Sometimes you do, sometimes you don't. - 05/10/2009 07:46:18 PM 397 Views
Well, I guess you'll have to fulfill your role here and pass sentence... - 06/10/2009 09:19:34 PM 565 Views
You're one to talk. *NM* - 06/10/2009 09:38:30 PM 281 Views
I've been following this with some interest - 29/09/2009 03:28:36 PM 409 Views
That was my impression as well. - 29/09/2009 03:38:48 PM 384 Views
Re: That was my impression as well. - 29/09/2009 03:43:36 PM 384 Views
Re: That was my impression as well. - 29/09/2009 03:45:17 PM 383 Views
I agree with many of your points, but on some the facts seem to say something else. - 29/09/2009 04:13:09 PM 579 Views
*agree* *NM* - 29/09/2009 04:20:32 PM 277 Views
Problem of course is that those are not 'facts' - 29/09/2009 04:58:28 PM 573 Views
first you demand fact before judgement then you make a judgement on your opinion? - 29/09/2009 05:04:59 PM 517 Views
Depends on the circumstances - 29/09/2009 05:35:13 PM 524 Views
because she doesn't have any excuse to belly up either - 29/09/2009 04:17:06 PM 559 Views
Re: because she doesn't have any excuse to belly up either - 29/09/2009 05:17:57 PM 470 Views
*snort* - 29/09/2009 05:30:25 PM 490 Views
I would have to agree with you there, actually - 29/09/2009 05:47:13 PM 624 Views
Re: I would have to agree with your first point, but not the second - 29/09/2009 05:47:40 PM 600 Views
There is no way in hell he did not know she was underage. - 29/09/2009 05:55:37 PM 543 Views
Not necessarily true at all - 29/09/2009 06:32:18 PM 489 Views
Somehow, i heavily doubt the fact she was NOT 18 would never have come to light - 29/09/2009 06:40:20 PM 550 Views
You may be right, I don't know. - 29/09/2009 06:58:45 PM 573 Views
so you agree he is guilty to the allegation he pleaded guilty to of sex with a minor? - 29/09/2009 07:09:07 PM 479 Views
There was never any doubt of that - 29/09/2009 07:46:43 PM 456 Views
See below, - 29/09/2009 07:54:09 PM 489 Views
Yeah, I agree about the vigilante part and the extreme reactions... - 29/09/2009 07:58:18 PM 590 Views
I think I'm reading that article more critically than you are. - 29/09/2009 08:37:23 PM 533 Views
Or you've already made up your mind, while I'm basing mine on what I read. - 29/09/2009 08:46:56 PM 614 Views
I haven't entirely made up my mind - 29/09/2009 08:55:30 PM 491 Views
don't you think he'd say something about it NOW? - 29/09/2009 08:48:59 PM 356 Views
I don't know - 29/09/2009 08:57:27 PM 394 Views
An article that has a lot of additional detail... - 29/09/2009 07:18:29 PM 603 Views
I wish i could put a nice big star next to this. - 29/09/2009 07:29:38 PM 484 Views
Umm - why? - 29/09/2009 08:04:29 PM 529 Views
Yes, well, online newspaper archives don't tend to date back very far... - 29/09/2009 08:14:52 PM 569 Views
Oh, and if you want to read the op-ed she wrote... - 29/09/2009 08:20:06 PM 518 Views
Now I'd be interested to see the actual court records - 29/09/2009 08:24:13 PM 477 Views
Me too - 29/09/2009 08:33:36 PM 358 Views
Yeah, nothing new there really - 29/09/2009 08:26:24 PM 576 Views
There's always room for exceptions, however... - 29/09/2009 04:53:34 PM 386 Views
Camilla - he drugged and raped a 13-year old.....what else do you need to know? *NM* - 29/09/2009 06:19:19 PM 311 Views
I don't know that. Neither do you. Which is part of it. *NM* - 29/09/2009 06:20:22 PM 307 Views
Yes we do..... - 29/09/2009 06:30:46 PM 540 Views
No, we don't. - 29/09/2009 06:48:35 PM 493 Views
if these "Facts" were false - 29/09/2009 07:02:50 PM 514 Views
That's extremely naive - 29/09/2009 08:07:15 PM 412 Views
i fail to see how this is naive - 29/09/2009 08:35:59 PM 563 Views
The naive part - 29/09/2009 08:49:18 PM 570 Views
I'm not assuming anyone (not just her personal testimony) was telling the truth - 29/09/2009 08:56:52 PM 593 Views
I think that I'm just more cynical than you are - 29/09/2009 09:12:12 PM 537 Views
So because i'm not cynical about the court system and have a different train of logic - 29/09/2009 09:25:53 PM 556 Views
Not necessarily wrong - 29/09/2009 09:43:33 PM 533 Views
Uhm, his bargain wasn't 40-odd days in evaulation - 29/09/2009 09:51:22 PM 369 Views
Not what I read, but this whole thing is so messy... - 29/09/2009 10:25:59 PM 459 Views
I don't remember which article it was from - 29/09/2009 10:32:32 PM 334 Views
One thing that was clear - 29/09/2009 11:08:43 PM 574 Views
Ah I didn't catch that - 29/09/2009 11:15:06 PM 505 Views
Could you source that? - 29/09/2009 11:18:46 PM 548 Views
it's one of the articles that's been linked - 29/09/2009 11:59:02 PM 494 Views
The Mail article, yeah. *NM* - 30/09/2009 12:01:48 AM 174 Views
Uhm, his bargain wasn't 40-odd days in evaulation - 29/09/2009 09:51:24 PM 473 Views
Yes, we do.....drugs & rape of a 13-year old - 29/09/2009 07:10:02 PM 512 Views
you do know that just because you repeat something it doesn't instantly become true? *NM* - 29/09/2009 07:11:03 PM 163 Views
and how many times have y'all said it was false? *NM* - 29/09/2009 07:13:27 PM 303 Views
Hello pot, this is kettle, you're black too..... - 29/09/2009 08:16:16 PM 392 Views
Wow - I guess every allegation ever made by a prosecutor is true - 29/09/2009 08:09:43 PM 412 Views
I guess you believe every criminal who says "I didn't do it"..... - 29/09/2009 08:18:29 PM 491 Views
Nope - 29/09/2009 09:14:02 PM 388 Views
He admitted it. - 29/09/2009 10:45:43 PM 542 Views
You don't get it do you? - 29/09/2009 11:15:27 PM 512 Views
Nothing in the case which he admitted guilt to is in dispute. - 29/09/2009 11:45:05 PM 511 Views
Hardly - 30/09/2009 11:18:42 PM 484 Views
Seriously, are you related to Roman the Rapist? - 30/09/2009 01:11:44 AM 518 Views
I want to go on record as saying: I really dislike agreeing with you - 30/09/2009 05:03:24 AM 588 Views
Oh, now Amy's accusing me of being a pedophile, that's just funny - 01/10/2009 12:23:53 AM 512 Views
Re: Oh, now Amy's accusing me of being a pedophile, that's just funny - 01/10/2009 05:55:46 AM 550 Views
Honestly Amy, you know nothing whatsoever about my life or why I do things - 01/10/2009 04:03:38 PM 516 Views
I only have one thing left to say to you. - 01/10/2009 04:08:42 PM 352 Views
You are certainly entitled to your opinion - 01/10/2009 04:23:32 PM 376 Views
I think you're getting way out of line here, Amy. *NM* - 01/10/2009 04:07:59 PM 288 Views
I agree, and already said the same once. It appears that was deleted. *NM* - 01/10/2009 05:15:07 PM 321 Views
Sorry Nossy.. - 01/10/2009 06:24:26 PM 505 Views
It was meant to be advice - 01/10/2009 06:39:31 PM 355 Views
That entire conversation when I deleted the original post. - 01/10/2009 06:30:00 PM 473 Views
No no.. - 01/10/2009 06:43:19 PM 514 Views
Re: I think you're getting way out of line here, Amy. - 01/10/2009 06:21:37 PM 369 Views
Heh! - 01/10/2009 06:28:07 PM 384 Views
I second that. *NM* - 01/10/2009 08:21:13 PM 177 Views
No, I happen to dislike vigilante idiots - 30/09/2009 11:21:53 PM 363 Views
Re: No, we don't. - 29/09/2009 10:09:32 PM 470 Views
Re: No, we don't. - 29/09/2009 11:21:08 PM 617 Views
I think for the 1st time ever i'm actually stunned by the comments on this board. - 29/09/2009 07:14:18 PM 450 Views
Oh but he didn't KNOW - 29/09/2009 07:17:55 PM 423 Views
Ignorance doesn't have to be proven in court - 29/09/2009 08:11:31 PM 368 Views
no you have back asswards - 29/09/2009 08:14:36 PM 413 Views
You're talking ethics and then switch to law - 29/09/2009 09:17:02 PM 391 Views
yes the law can be stupid but not so stupid that you can use the - 29/09/2009 10:32:49 PM 412 Views
Oh it's EASILY that stupid and even stupider - 29/09/2009 10:58:33 PM 545 Views
If the girl has to call and ask her mommy if she can stay late you should ask her age - 30/09/2009 04:04:33 PM 393 Views
He knew her age. The photo-shoot was specifically looking at young girls. - 30/09/2009 04:42:01 PM 511 Views
Of course he knew he age - 30/09/2009 05:01:19 PM 504 Views
Obviously - because you say so right? - 30/09/2009 11:25:18 PM 355 Views
You really have to be a moron to believ he didn't - 01/10/2009 06:27:04 AM 378 Views
That stupidity isn't even worthy of a reply. *NM* - 01/10/2009 04:21:35 PM 293 Views
Wow, way to make up 'facts' - 30/09/2009 11:23:13 PM 583 Views
Do you actually READ any of the articles??? - 01/10/2009 12:06:54 AM 367 Views
I did and I just went and re-read that one to be sure - 01/10/2009 12:44:46 AM 556 Views
~nods~ *NM* - 29/09/2009 07:32:29 PM 284 Views
It's not the first time, but I agree. - 29/09/2009 07:44:06 PM 479 Views
Way to go for a straw man - 29/09/2009 07:45:44 PM 548 Views
I agree that he is most definitely not a pedophile - 29/09/2009 07:50:23 PM 609 Views
As to your question, I have no idea - 29/09/2009 07:59:43 PM 602 Views
That is not what staute of limitations is - 29/09/2009 07:52:32 PM 362 Views
Yes - 29/09/2009 08:00:49 PM 394 Views
Re: Yes - 29/09/2009 08:13:24 PM 536 Views
I prefer the Tin Man myself - 29/09/2009 07:57:07 PM 574 Views
Re: Way to go for a straw man - 30/09/2009 05:05:47 PM 504 Views
No one has excused him. But there is no point any longer in going after him. - 29/09/2009 08:15:42 PM 638 Views
i can certainly agree that it's a waste of time and resources - 29/09/2009 08:20:19 PM 367 Views
there are advantages and disadvantages to being famous - 29/09/2009 08:49:21 PM 370 Views
Agreed - I can't believe people are defending this d-bag.....amazing! *NM* - 29/09/2009 08:25:05 PM 291 Views
It is rather mind-boggling *NM* - 29/09/2009 08:29:11 PM 287 Views
well - 29/09/2009 08:34:56 PM 513 Views
I'm all for the gray and considerin both sides. - 29/09/2009 08:45:50 PM 425 Views
Ben Franklin once said - 29/09/2009 09:30:16 PM 571 Views
*snort* - 29/09/2009 10:02:13 PM 539 Views
I'd say you need to spend more time around lawyers - 29/09/2009 10:40:05 PM 477 Views
isn't he still churning out movies like crazy? - 29/09/2009 10:42:48 PM 393 Views
I've no idea - 29/09/2009 11:22:20 PM 517 Views
Exactly Nossy - 29/09/2009 09:20:14 PM 614 Views
Well it's certainly apparent you're sticking to it *NM* - 29/09/2009 09:27:48 PM 284 Views
That's always been how I am though. - 29/09/2009 09:32:30 PM 539 Views
I've decided I really don't care about this either way at all. - 29/09/2009 08:38:14 PM 468 Views
It has an effect on good cinema *NM* - 29/09/2009 08:52:58 PM 206 Views
there's been people saying he shouldn't get his Oscar for it - 29/09/2009 08:59:04 PM 367 Views
Doubtful. - 30/09/2009 02:04:52 AM 496 Views
How recent is recently? - 30/09/2009 02:22:39 AM 438 Views
There's a lot of misinformation flying around here. - 29/09/2009 11:22:29 PM 565 Views
That would be more convincing if you didn't have incorrect information yourself. - 29/09/2009 11:58:40 PM 379 Views
I just worked that out. - 30/09/2009 12:07:43 AM 556 Views
Re: I just worked that out. - 30/09/2009 12:28:13 AM 522 Views
Re: I just worked that out. - 30/09/2009 12:42:17 AM 487 Views
Small correction - 01/10/2009 12:15:45 AM 489 Views
Think about that one a bit - 30/09/2009 11:34:56 PM 556 Views
Add to that also - 30/09/2009 11:30:14 PM 575 Views
Excellent summary on Roman the Rapist.....good job! *NM* - 30/09/2009 01:13:35 AM 300 Views
Most impressive - 30/09/2009 01:21:42 AM 351 Views
Excellent - and done better than most of the rest of us. *NM* - 30/09/2009 03:34:11 PM 316 Views
In my opinion... - 30/09/2009 04:57:44 PM 499 Views
Can I just say... - 30/09/2009 05:54:47 PM 518 Views
The state is also a vicitm - 30/09/2009 06:17:22 PM 506 Views
Hardly, in this case - 30/09/2009 11:57:48 PM 399 Views
you know your arguments would have more merit if you had a clue what your were talking about - 01/10/2009 06:24:35 AM 369 Views
You should know what you are talking about before you post - 01/10/2009 04:18:50 PM 574 Views
OK go learn something and then come back - 01/10/2009 05:15:45 PM 547 Views
I note that you ignore the fact that I just proved you wrong... - 01/10/2009 05:27:01 PM 477 Views
no you just mistated some crap that I ignored *sigh* - 01/10/2009 06:30:03 PM 377 Views
The girl and mother requested to cut a deal, so the 13-year old wouldn't have to testify..... - 01/10/2009 04:28:49 PM 361 Views
Actually, the prosecution cut the deal - 01/10/2009 05:29:29 PM 493 Views
And the most important reason for justice... - 30/09/2009 07:43:33 PM 605 Views
Just to be clear - 30/09/2009 11:47:42 PM 581 Views
This may help some of the argument, but sadly not much - 01/10/2009 02:06:22 AM 534 Views
It's not just that he admitted to it in the plea bargain. - 01/10/2009 03:10:37 AM 572 Views
*agree* *NM* - 01/10/2009 02:36:05 PM 178 Views
Yes, looking at him very strangely.....he's jumping the shark big-time on this one! - 01/10/2009 04:31:43 PM 389 Views
Apparently you don't get the idea of honest debate - 01/10/2009 06:40:45 PM 537 Views
Good news - French government drops support for director Roman Polanski - 01/10/2009 04:46:42 PM 527 Views
Hypocrites. *NM* - 01/10/2009 05:41:34 PM 329 Views
Yeah pretty much - 01/10/2009 06:28:01 PM 412 Views
Well, unless I find some new facts to post - I think I'm done with this thread - 01/10/2009 06:59:36 PM 652 Views
It was quite a valiant effort - 01/10/2009 08:30:23 PM 399 Views
I agree the attacks on you personally were not warranted and were out of line. - 03/10/2009 03:02:03 AM 574 Views
Please. - 05/10/2009 03:35:50 PM 559 Views
My "bottom line" on this subject: - 01/10/2009 07:21:19 PM 555 Views

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