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I don't know about that. Legolas Send a noteboard - 18/04/2013 09:55:36 PM

In the (admittedly unlikely) case that a poll is off by so much that even the margin of error is insufficient to make it correct, while still having been correctly executed, the statistic does for all intents and purposes lie.

More often, statistics "lie" due to not having been executed correctly, most often I suppose by failing to have truly independent data points, or perhaps for other reasons.

But it's true that statistics being misreported or misrepresented are still more frequent than either of the above.

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Obama embarrassed - Senate Gun Control Bill Fails..... Anonymous2000 - 18/04/2013 03:51:37 AM 1072 Views
More importantly, they failed becasue it was just knee-jerk "must do something publicly" BS. HyogaRott - 18/04/2013 01:55:43 PM 633 Views
there is no law anywhere which can undo the past moondog - 18/04/2013 03:12:14 PM 607 Views
Let me rephrase... None of them could have prevented a FUTURE attack. HyogaRott - 18/04/2013 04:37:43 PM 1150 Views
nothing can prevent future attacks. the goal is to stop criminals getting guns and reduce fatalities moondog - 18/04/2013 06:07:32 PM 546 Views
lol. I can't believe you made thatargument A Deathwatch Guard - 18/04/2013 08:46:45 PM 715 Views
EXACTLY, which is why all this legistation was garbage HyogaRott - 18/04/2013 08:47:35 PM 688 Views
that's right. because our right to be blown away trumps life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness moondog - 18/04/2013 09:06:32 PM 670 Views
Turn off your partisin blinders and listen to logic for once. HyogaRott - 19/04/2013 12:41:12 AM 634 Views
logic dictates that *ALL* gun sales be decided by background check moondog - 19/04/2013 10:27:50 PM 513 Views
Okay, if you say 'logic dictates' like that, you'd better present the actual logic stream Isaac - 20/04/2013 02:52:07 AM 616 Views
you won't accept evidence because you're ok with proliferation of guns to criminals moondog - 22/04/2013 07:31:32 PM 807 Views
More ranting and hyperbole Isaac - 22/04/2013 09:15:12 PM 669 Views
+1 - This is "feel good" legislation that accomplishes nothing..... *NM* Anonymous2000 - 18/04/2013 06:06:07 PM 334 Views
yep. republican obstructionism and cowardice knows no bounds.... moondog - 18/04/2013 03:07:46 PM 620 Views
ironclad - 18/04/2013 03:15:15 PM 684 Views
You're being rather partisan here. And wrong to denigrate Republicans. The Shrike - 18/04/2013 03:55:34 PM 681 Views
sorry, who is the minority party again? it's not the democrats moondog - 18/04/2013 06:19:43 PM 671 Views
moondog is funny when his side is losing..... Anonymous2000 - 18/04/2013 06:55:07 PM 585 Views
On legislation that seeks to restrict/reimagine/redefine The Shrike - 18/04/2013 07:30:47 PM 732 Views
this was about regulation, it was not a new amendment. moondog - 18/04/2013 08:41:12 PM 772 Views
perhaps you should discover a dictionary. HyogaRott - 18/04/2013 09:01:36 PM 638 Views
PPP, ABC, CNN, Rasmussen and Gallup are all similarly biased on background checks? sure.... *NM* moondog - 18/04/2013 09:16:28 PM 282 Views
WHAT!?!?!! you mean to tell me that news organizations are biased??? Nah! it can't be... HyogaRott - 19/04/2013 12:49:15 AM 561 Views
+1 - if you want to redesigned the 2nd amendment, do it via the constitutional amendment..... Anonymous2000 - 18/04/2013 09:09:35 PM 552 Views
a womans RIGHT to choose, but you don't have any problems with restrictions there moondog - 18/04/2013 09:21:14 PM 583 Views
The state has a law that requires Drs that perfom abortions have admitting priledges to a hospital. HyogaRott - 19/04/2013 12:47:41 AM 645 Views
they also tried to pass zoning laws which would have meant a complete remodel of the building moondog - 19/04/2013 10:35:03 PM 629 Views
Tried to pass infers that the said laws did not, thus are meningless. HyogaRott - 20/04/2013 05:11:59 AM 570 Views
I'm Pro-Choice dumbass..... *NM* Anonymous2000 - 19/04/2013 05:01:17 AM 269 Views
Well surprise, surprise, surprise, those amendments WERE debated, that's how they came up for a vote HyogaRott - 18/04/2013 08:53:40 PM 573 Views
and it's still the republican obstructionism which doomed them to failure moondog - 18/04/2013 09:07:51 PM 681 Views
I LOVE obstructionism when it stops stupid ideas. *NM* Anonymous2000 - 18/04/2013 09:10:54 PM 269 Views
well, you *are* the authority on stupid ideas, i'll give you that much! *NM* moondog - 19/04/2013 11:01:31 PM 270 Views
I'd forgotten, Democrats never filibuster Isaac - 18/04/2013 09:33:41 PM 627 Views
right, i forget republicans don't abuse the rules they are only preventing the gov't from working moondog - 18/04/2013 09:39:11 PM 559 Views
It bugs the hell out of me how you don't see that comment as being Dem/Rep interchangeable Isaac - 18/04/2013 11:38:26 PM 546 Views
That's because he is a partisan hack.....nothing more, nothing less. *NM* Anonymous2000 - 19/04/2013 05:02:36 AM 292 Views
before 2010, it only took 51 votes to pass the senate moondog - 19/04/2013 10:36:55 PM 560 Views
The higher usage of late is mostly Reid's fault Isaac - 20/04/2013 02:17:46 AM 905 Views
So does your ignorance on how your government process functions. HyogaRott - 18/04/2013 04:46:53 PM 560 Views
don't play dumb, you are better than that moondog - 18/04/2013 06:24:22 PM 574 Views
Nope, nope, nope and nope. A+ job on ignorantly parroting popular political talking poinits though HyogaRott - 18/04/2013 08:50:35 PM 630 Views
prove me wrong then, don't just post nothing *NM* moondog - 18/04/2013 09:08:35 PM 554 Views
Very Enlightened of you, "Agree with me or you're an Obstrucionist and Coward" *NM* Isaac - 18/04/2013 09:31:06 PM 308 Views
i am only acting on your advice to "call a spade a spade" moondog - 18/04/2013 09:42:22 PM 557 Views
No, you're venting anger by demeaning the opposition on grounds that your own side uses too Isaac - 18/04/2013 10:30:24 PM 706 Views
venting? yes. my "side"? i don't think you understand where i'm coming from moondog - 19/04/2013 10:56:28 PM 630 Views
If you don't want to be seen as partisan, don't attack republicans specifically and repeatedly Isaac - 20/04/2013 06:41:57 AM 676 Views
if you don't want republicans attacked, you should convince them to stop taking insane positions moondog - 22/04/2013 07:09:32 PM 655 Views
They're insane to you because they're from the GOP, you'd call it insane if we said water was wet Isaac - 22/04/2013 08:15:00 PM 1075 Views
"an important" is not at all the same thing as "the most important." Aemon - 18/04/2013 04:10:47 PM 818 Views
I agree, BS polling like this (by either side) annoys me. HyogaRott - 18/04/2013 04:56:44 PM 522 Views
actually..... moondog - 18/04/2013 06:25:31 PM 673 Views
99.9 going once... 99.9 going twice... SOLD to the beady eyed farrot faced guy in the back row. HyogaRott - 18/04/2013 09:04:06 PM 612 Views
Statistics lie 0% of the time, people lie or see what they want to see 99% of the time *NM* Isaac - 18/04/2013 09:23:17 PM 287 Views
I don't know about that. Legolas - 18/04/2013 09:55:36 PM 567 Views
I think the difference is more than semantic in this case Isaac - 19/04/2013 12:11:04 AM 634 Views
It is a silly poll Isaac - 18/04/2013 09:21:25 PM 686 Views
I don't mind the poll, just the interpretation. Aemon - 18/04/2013 10:27:37 PM 737 Views
That's sort of the point, you don't poll about the other critters with the 900 pound gorilla around Isaac - 18/04/2013 11:46:00 PM 593 Views
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