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There is a viral FB post out there Tom Send a noteboard - 24/09/2013 09:16:22 PM

The crux of it is that the inability to negotiate prices at all levels of the health care system is the core problem. Hospitals can't negotiate with manufacturers of equipment and supplies because they all do it individually, insurance companies can't force hospitals to set standard prices for things (hence your $300 for 5 aspirin tablets - I had that once when my ex-girlfriend went to the ER), and patients have no ability whatsoever to negotiate anything.

Obama went after trying to make sure everyone had care, in the misguided notion that this would drive prices down. In reality, the people who didn't have care are mostly the ones who were denied by everyone, so adding them to the system has raised costs for everyone.

A better solution would be either moving to single-payer (i.e., socialized medicine) or setting up collective bargaining units - mandatory ones, in fact - by region, that force manufacturers and suppliers to charge only set prices, that then set what margins hospitals can add and which then set the rates insurers can charge, like what is done with utilities. That, along with malpractice reform and a few other changes, could finally achieve what has eluded Obama thus far - a reduction in how much we pay for medical care.

Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

Ummaka qinnassa nīk!

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President Obama should not negotiate with terrorists - 24/09/2013 06:09:59 PM 1458 Views
I assume the purpose of this post was ranting and provoking heated reactions for your amusement? - 24/09/2013 08:16:14 PM 944 Views
I assumed that was the point of the post. - 24/09/2013 08:25:16 PM 799 Views
As would I, that's for sure. - 24/09/2013 08:44:31 PM 924 Views
There is a viral FB post out there - 24/09/2013 09:16:22 PM 867 Views
Is there any chance of that happening? - 26/09/2013 07:21:51 PM 832 Views
consider this my swan song - 24/09/2013 09:39:02 PM 878 Views
gross accumulation of wealth of real problem I am just not sure how you find a solution - 28/09/2013 04:21:37 PM 742 Views
That doesn't happen that easily. - 28/09/2013 10:31:40 PM 858 Views
I agree in theory but in practice it is a lot harder - 30/09/2013 03:20:14 PM 820 Views
The Affordable Care Act has nothing to do with affordability. - 24/09/2013 08:46:15 PM 968 Views
I remember people complaining when their patriotism was questioned, thought they had a valid beef... - 25/09/2013 05:57:52 AM 838 Views
i'm sorry your party has gone off the deep end and can't tell reality from their ass - 27/09/2013 05:24:52 PM 811 Views
Yeah, they're out of touch with reality, Mr. Peaceful Protest = terrorism, sure, gotcha - 28/09/2013 01:41:55 AM 917 Views
fucking over millions of people's lives is NOT "peaceful protest" - 01/10/2013 09:04:30 PM 939 Views
I agree. The ACA is akin to domestic terrorism because it is fucking over millions of peoples' lives - 01/10/2013 10:00:59 PM 1076 Views
just because you won't benefit doesn't mean it isn't helping - 01/10/2013 11:27:10 PM 798 Views
Oh, please. Cut the fucking hyperbole. - 02/10/2013 02:54:31 AM 770 Views
It isn't hypberbole tyo him it is his reality - 02/10/2013 03:47:30 AM 762 Views
I was with you until you engaged in your own hyperbole in that last line. *NM* - 02/10/2013 06:05:12 PM 429 Views
I thought it was more of simple observation - 04/10/2013 02:21:32 AM 709 Views
You have an amazingly cherry-picked view of the world don't you? Peaceful protests often hurt people - 01/10/2013 10:20:43 PM 773 Views
yeah, you keep believing that. i suppose black is now white as well? - 01/10/2013 11:28:58 PM 825 Views
If you insist on seeing everything as black and white it really doesn't matter which is which - 02/10/2013 12:07:51 AM 752 Views
I had hoped - 02/10/2013 08:43:58 AM 836 Views
Re: I had hoped - 02/10/2013 10:48:13 AM 799 Views
Re: I had hoped - 02/10/2013 11:35:04 AM 848 Views
Re: I had hoped - 02/10/2013 12:07:34 PM 914 Views
Congress is given teh power of the purse so it is the left who is threatening a shut down - 26/09/2013 12:59:20 PM 775 Views
Both right and wrong. - 26/09/2013 04:55:36 PM 746 Views
sorry but that doesn't change the power of the purse - 28/09/2013 04:06:53 PM 912 Views
Pretty much my take for the last two years; the GOP is pulling an Arafat: "95% is not good enough!" - 27/09/2013 01:12:53 AM 908 Views
funny how the media celibrated the silly twit from Fort Worth for doing basically the same thing *NM* - 28/09/2013 04:19:31 PM 443 Views

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