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I appolozie if I offended Jeordam Send a noteboard - 08/03/2017 06:18:41 PM

That was not my intent.


View original postSince I have no reason to question or doubt your initial claim to desire nothing more than honest debate without rancor, let's view my reply as constructive criticism to help you better achieve your stated goal.


View original post"Indulge" was such a choice. According to Merriam-Webster, indulge implies excessive compliance and weakness in gratifying another's or one's own desires. Making use of that word is obviously editorial in nature. Concede would have been a more neutral choice, had you wished to be so.

So I should say that I do not, and probably will never, reference an actual dictionary when I choose my words. A dictionary is good for a clinical definition, but can sometimes miss the (regional?) flavor of words. Concede is a good word, but it holds a flavor of thought that I'm not sure I agree with.
View original post"with other mental health issues we step in and stop their behavior for their own good"


View original postReally? How so? Force-fed medication? Let me clue you in on something. Very few adults receive involuntary commitment for mental health issues. Treatment plans are voluntary in all but the most dangerous cases.

I am aware that very few adults receive involuntary treatment. I am also aware that the loved ones of adults have stepped in to stop their destructive behavior. An example would be the friend I referenced earlier who thought that the only way to fix the situation he perceived was to set his room on fire. His parents stepped in to stop his behavior (for both his and their own good).
View original post"and we do not play along"

View original postAnother good one. Supporting the wishes of the transgender person is "playing along." Honest debate without rancor?

I came up with an honest phrase for my honest feeling. Let's remember that society is being forced to change to meet them.
View original postHere's a big one. "Interfere." So let me get this straight. When I of my own free will sought treatment for my lifelong depression, and again of my own free will accepted the medication the doctor prescribed, he was "interfering" with my mental health issue? My late wife's treatment for bipolar disorder was also interference? Perhaps intervene would have been a better choice? Ah but only if you didn't want your slant to show.

For both you and your wife, the doctor was intervening by providing treatment. At the same time, interference would be them actively stopping you from doing something destructive. If you had gotten to a point in your depression when you would have attempted a destructive action, and someone stopped you, wouldn't that be interference? The two words are very close to one another, however interference has the flavor of someone stopping you from something that you really wanted (something specific). Intervene has a different flavor (at least to me). It has more of going after the root issue.
View original postLastly equating doing what makes you happy over the course of your life with a hedonistic pursuit of immediate happiness is a poor argument at best and disingenuous at worst.

I understand what you are saying, but I would disagree. Doing something (short term or long term) to satisfy an emotional response is (in my opinion) a foolish endeavor. An example would be marriage. Over the years, through good times and bad, the emotions are going to grow strong and grow week. When that marriage lasts, it's not because their marriage is based on emotion, it's based on their conscious and forthright decision.

~Jeordam

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Self-Identification vs. Mental Health Issue *trigger warning* Jeordam - 06/03/2017 08:53:17 PM 744 Views
I have to say I'm very confused about what your question is... and I don't think it's just me. Legolas - 07/03/2017 12:04:27 AM 472 Views
Yes, I'm talking about... Jeordam - 07/03/2017 05:03:18 PM 478 Views
Okay, clear. Legolas - 07/03/2017 06:50:00 PM 486 Views
<3 *NM* nossy - 07/03/2017 06:57:23 PM 221 Views
Mind over Matter? Jeordam - 07/03/2017 09:06:53 PM 461 Views
Mind over body might've been more apt. I believe I did answer your question actually. Legolas - 07/03/2017 10:41:01 PM 530 Views
Let's be clear.... Jeordam - 07/03/2017 11:17:02 PM 441 Views
By all means. Legolas - 07/03/2017 11:58:41 PM 440 Views
Well that's the crux of the topic isn't it.... Jeordam - 08/03/2017 05:48:50 PM 384 Views
That takes us right back to body vs mind, doesn't it? Legolas - 08/03/2017 07:13:32 PM 425 Views
Well that would be the difference... Jeordam - 08/03/2017 08:54:59 PM 465 Views
So do tell me what in fact the purpose of our discussion is, then? Legolas - 08/03/2017 09:40:09 PM 437 Views
What can I possibly say? Jeordam - 09/03/2017 05:45:54 PM 420 Views
There's a distinction to be made with eating disorders. Ghavrel - 08/03/2017 08:31:08 PM 438 Views
That brings us all the way back around.... Jeordam - 08/03/2017 09:05:40 PM 465 Views
Because nossy - 08/03/2017 09:30:37 PM 458 Views
Two things... Jeordam - 09/03/2017 05:50:32 PM 410 Views
you're missing a rather obvious difference, aren't you? damookster - 08/03/2017 09:50:09 PM 442 Views
Yeah, Snoop was just saying the same. nossy - 08/03/2017 10:14:41 PM 489 Views
Well now we are bridging a rather big gap.... Jeordam - 09/03/2017 07:12:26 PM 468 Views
Re: Well now we are bridging a rather big gap.... nossy - 09/03/2017 08:52:30 PM 546 Views
So two conversations now..... Jeordam - 09/03/2017 09:39:55 PM 448 Views
Re: So two conversations now..... nossy - 09/03/2017 10:23:39 PM 432 Views
And this is what you're overlooking.... Jeordam - 09/03/2017 10:47:47 PM 466 Views
I could be wrong nossy - 09/03/2017 11:15:22 PM 436 Views
Sex vs Gender Jeordam - 09/03/2017 11:33:54 PM 448 Views
So this is an interesting point..... Jeordam - 09/03/2017 05:56:12 PM 441 Views
Sure about that? damookster - 09/03/2017 08:53:14 PM 427 Views
It's a mater of persepctive.... Jeordam - 09/03/2017 09:12:09 PM 434 Views
wrong damookster - 09/03/2017 09:41:53 PM 378 Views
Sure. Jeordam - 09/03/2017 09:57:48 PM 469 Views
sure, could be damookster - 09/03/2017 11:56:31 PM 401 Views
I feel like this has been said several times already, in several ways Sareitha Sedai - 10/03/2017 04:10:27 PM 439 Views
It has been said, and I understand what is being said... Jeordam - 10/03/2017 06:01:06 PM 445 Views
Re: It has been said, and I understand what is being said... Sareitha Sedai - 10/03/2017 07:58:57 PM 448 Views
I find your wording problematic and agenda driven. damookster - 07/03/2017 11:58:03 PM 464 Views
I appolozie if I offended Jeordam - 08/03/2017 06:18:41 PM 438 Views
no worries damookster - 08/03/2017 06:36:10 PM 457 Views
It always goes from it doesn't hurt anyone to the whole world has to change accommodate me *NM* random thoughts - 10/03/2017 02:46:38 AM 269 Views
That's true - doesn't change the issue as such but certainly there's intolerance on that side too. *NM* Legolas - 10/03/2017 07:45:43 AM 212 Views
Both extremes are dangerous random thoughts - 10/03/2017 12:59:41 PM 485 Views
Take your trigger warnings back to tumblr where they belong ßelals Girl - 07/03/2017 12:21:05 PM 550 Views
*ha* Jeordam - 07/03/2017 05:04:10 PM 462 Views
I self-identify as a deity, so I need you to use My preferred pronouns in reference to Myself Cannoli - 07/03/2017 05:15:56 PM 397 Views
So I could self-identify aerocontrols - 08/03/2017 12:36:39 AM 383 Views
I read through this thread. kazetaran - 10/03/2017 12:44:03 AM 599 Views
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