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It has been said, and I understand what is being said... Jeordam Send a noteboard - 10/03/2017 06:01:06 PM

View original postIn the case of transsexual or transgender individuals, they are allowed the same autonomy to choose treatment or not, because they aren't in danger of harming themselves or anyone else whether they stay in the body they were born in or not.

But where you and others say that they aren't "harming themselves or anyone else", I disagree. I see the surgery that they are doing as great harm to themselves. I see the ramifications of their decision having harm on those around them. And I see their requirement that society treat them as socially similar to the body that they now present as inauthentic. And I'm hardly alone in this assessment.

What I'm wondering is if anyone sees it from my perspective. That for each and every other mental health issue we have, we always regard their behavior/quarks/perceptions as what they are...not true. However for this one....we take their viewpoint as valid. Why the difference?

~Jeordam

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Self-Identification vs. Mental Health Issue *trigger warning* Jeordam - 06/03/2017 08:53:17 PM 960 Views
I have to say I'm very confused about what your question is... and I don't think it's just me. Legolas - 07/03/2017 12:04:27 AM 690 Views
Yes, I'm talking about... Jeordam - 07/03/2017 05:03:18 PM 707 Views
Okay, clear. Legolas - 07/03/2017 06:50:00 PM 694 Views
<3 *NM* nossy - 07/03/2017 06:57:23 PM 353 Views
Mind over Matter? Jeordam - 07/03/2017 09:06:53 PM 668 Views
Mind over body might've been more apt. I believe I did answer your question actually. Legolas - 07/03/2017 10:41:01 PM 747 Views
Let's be clear.... Jeordam - 07/03/2017 11:17:02 PM 652 Views
By all means. Legolas - 07/03/2017 11:58:41 PM 679 Views
Well that's the crux of the topic isn't it.... Jeordam - 08/03/2017 05:48:50 PM 590 Views
That takes us right back to body vs mind, doesn't it? Legolas - 08/03/2017 07:13:32 PM 648 Views
Well that would be the difference... Jeordam - 08/03/2017 08:54:59 PM 699 Views
So do tell me what in fact the purpose of our discussion is, then? Legolas - 08/03/2017 09:40:09 PM 649 Views
What can I possibly say? Jeordam - 09/03/2017 05:45:54 PM 643 Views
There's a distinction to be made with eating disorders. Ghavrel - 08/03/2017 08:31:08 PM 649 Views
That brings us all the way back around.... Jeordam - 08/03/2017 09:05:40 PM 698 Views
Because nossy - 08/03/2017 09:30:37 PM 684 Views
Two things... Jeordam - 09/03/2017 05:50:32 PM 635 Views
you're missing a rather obvious difference, aren't you? damookster - 08/03/2017 09:50:09 PM 659 Views
Yeah, Snoop was just saying the same. nossy - 08/03/2017 10:14:41 PM 700 Views
Well now we are bridging a rather big gap.... Jeordam - 09/03/2017 07:12:26 PM 680 Views
Re: Well now we are bridging a rather big gap.... nossy - 09/03/2017 08:52:30 PM 761 Views
So two conversations now..... Jeordam - 09/03/2017 09:39:55 PM 655 Views
Re: So two conversations now..... nossy - 09/03/2017 10:23:39 PM 645 Views
And this is what you're overlooking.... Jeordam - 09/03/2017 10:47:47 PM 678 Views
I could be wrong nossy - 09/03/2017 11:15:22 PM 648 Views
Sex vs Gender Jeordam - 09/03/2017 11:33:54 PM 639 Views
So this is an interesting point..... Jeordam - 09/03/2017 05:56:12 PM 673 Views
Sure about that? damookster - 09/03/2017 08:53:14 PM 641 Views
It's a mater of persepctive.... Jeordam - 09/03/2017 09:12:09 PM 654 Views
wrong damookster - 09/03/2017 09:41:53 PM 589 Views
Sure. Jeordam - 09/03/2017 09:57:48 PM 690 Views
sure, could be damookster - 09/03/2017 11:56:31 PM 614 Views
I feel like this has been said several times already, in several ways Sareitha Sedai - 10/03/2017 04:10:27 PM 653 Views
It has been said, and I understand what is being said... Jeordam - 10/03/2017 06:01:06 PM 659 Views
Re: It has been said, and I understand what is being said... Sareitha Sedai - 10/03/2017 07:58:57 PM 645 Views
I find your wording problematic and agenda driven. damookster - 07/03/2017 11:58:03 PM 663 Views
I appolozie if I offended Jeordam - 08/03/2017 06:18:41 PM 653 Views
no worries damookster - 08/03/2017 06:36:10 PM 667 Views
It always goes from it doesn't hurt anyone to the whole world has to change accommodate me *NM* random thoughts - 10/03/2017 02:46:38 AM 406 Views
That's true - doesn't change the issue as such but certainly there's intolerance on that side too. *NM* Legolas - 10/03/2017 07:45:43 AM 342 Views
Both extremes are dangerous random thoughts - 10/03/2017 12:59:41 PM 695 Views
Take your trigger warnings back to tumblr where they belong ßelals Girl - 07/03/2017 12:21:05 PM 781 Views
*ha* Jeordam - 07/03/2017 05:04:10 PM 685 Views
I self-identify as a deity, so I need you to use My preferred pronouns in reference to Myself Cannoli - 07/03/2017 05:15:56 PM 607 Views
So I could self-identify aerocontrols - 08/03/2017 12:36:39 AM 600 Views
I read through this thread. kazetaran - 10/03/2017 12:44:03 AM 940 Views
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