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The Democrats have the arrogance to say "people don't understand the Health Care Bill". Tom Send a noteboard - 20/01/2010 03:57:17 AM
The inference is that, if the masses weren't "lied to", they would understand that the Democrats are their benevolent caretakers, acting in their interests. Bullshit.

Yes, people were lied to. Sarah Palin's name comes to mind. However, the Democrats did their fair share of lying as well, especially with respect to the price tag on the bill. It is clear by this point that the bill neither (a) addresses the primary causes of the high cost of health care nor (b) has any chance of doing what it is ostensibly being passed to do. It will kill jobs at a time when unemployment is at 10%. It will increase our deficit and likely also lead to tax increases, both of which will kill more jobs. It will bloat the Federal government's size still further, which will also help to kill our economy.

People understand that. Now, it sounds like SOME Democrats are starting to realise that they have to re-examine their stance on the bill. I expect that they'll start to bail like rats from a sinking ship, letting Pelosi and Reid go down. I wouldn't be surprised to see a change in leadership in both houses of Congress.
Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

Ummaka qinnassa nīk!

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BROWN WINS! Let's celebrate the end of ObamaCare!!! - 20/01/2010 02:20:22 AM 1781 Views
My vote put him over the top!!!! *NM* - 20/01/2010 02:22:50 AM 595 Views
Wait...you only voted once? - 20/01/2010 02:24:42 AM 1020 Views
I had planned to post a fake-news joke post earlier. - 20/01/2010 02:27:14 AM 1162 Views
The joke is even less funny when written. - 20/01/2010 02:51:18 PM 1006 Views
*dances with you* - 20/01/2010 02:24:17 AM 1033 Views
Because of Brown or because of dancing with me? *NM* - 20/01/2010 02:25:24 AM 613 Views
Its hard to pick. *NM* - 20/01/2010 02:27:31 AM 549 Views
Don't jinx it - 20/01/2010 02:27:25 AM 1131 Views
It's a win-win situation as far as I'm concerned. - 20/01/2010 02:33:16 AM 1059 Views
i predict that political predictions are not always so cut and dried - 21/01/2010 01:50:23 AM 1082 Views
God I love reading the shit at DailyKos right now. - 20/01/2010 02:45:23 AM 1097 Views
Actually, there is a chance they can use reconiliation to pass it. I hope not. - 20/01/2010 02:46:47 AM 1163 Views
If they did that, they'd be signing their own resignations. - 20/01/2010 02:54:56 AM 1052 Views
Probably so but Pelosi did bring it up a few weeks ago. - 20/01/2010 04:05:17 AM 1057 Views
Pelosi never thought it would come to this a few weeks ago. - 20/01/2010 04:18:15 AM 1041 Views
Re: Pelosi never thought it would come to this a few weeks ago. - 20/01/2010 04:48:32 AM 1031 Views
They can, theoretically. - 20/01/2010 12:30:42 PM 1028 Views
*does a cartwheel* - 20/01/2010 03:07:00 AM 1158 Views
If this isn't a wake up call to the democratic party... - 20/01/2010 03:39:36 AM 1090 Views
I guess it depends on the wake up call's message. - 20/01/2010 03:45:38 AM 1052 Views
indeed - 20/01/2010 03:51:39 AM 1114 Views
Seriously?? - 20/01/2010 03:54:56 AM 1162 Views
The Democrats have the arrogance to say "people don't understand the Health Care Bill". - 20/01/2010 03:57:17 AM 1119 Views
agreed... *NM* - 20/01/2010 05:14:04 AM 671 Views
That is fucking nuts. *NM* - 20/01/2010 04:06:48 AM 623 Views
Celebrate good times come on! - 20/01/2010 03:53:01 AM 1019 Views
I'm in no mood to celebrate - 20/01/2010 04:34:42 AM 1190 Views
Re: I'm in no mood to celebrate - 20/01/2010 04:52:16 AM 1087 Views
If it'd numb the pain, I'd take it gladly right now! - 20/01/2010 05:47:04 AM 1023 Views
Re: If it'd numb the pain, I'd take it gladly right now! - 20/01/2010 06:12:34 AM 1154 Views
Do you honestly think this bill would help you? - 20/01/2010 02:21:02 PM 1069 Views
just wondering.... - 21/01/2010 01:56:05 AM 1091 Views
Well lucky you - 21/01/2010 09:09:16 PM 1096 Views
I don't understand this - 20/01/2010 09:07:09 AM 1519 Views
Re: I don't understand this - 20/01/2010 12:43:39 PM 1206 Views
That would be so massive a reform that it would never ever pass. - 20/01/2010 12:47:23 PM 1105 Views
I think "tries" is the key word here. - 20/01/2010 07:44:53 PM 1088 Views
Yeah, that's true. *NM* - 20/01/2010 10:05:15 PM 577 Views
I think.... - 20/01/2010 12:52:07 PM 1129 Views
There are a lot of reasons - 20/01/2010 02:13:58 PM 1098 Views
That was a really good response. *NM* - 20/01/2010 02:54:36 PM 702 Views
Re: There are a lot of reasons - 20/01/2010 03:02:48 PM 1099 Views
There is the overtreatment aspect as well, of course. *NM* - 20/01/2010 03:46:45 PM 577 Views
Groaning under illegal immigrants? - 20/01/2010 03:38:23 PM 1168 Views
Re: There are a lot of reasons - 20/01/2010 05:01:31 PM 1125 Views
Re: There are a lot of reasons - 20/01/2010 11:00:11 PM 1307 Views
I think your misunderstanding comes from one concept you mention. - 20/01/2010 04:57:27 PM 1169 Views
Re: I don't understand this - 20/01/2010 07:56:02 PM 1086 Views
*celebrates the beginning of the downfall of the USA* *NM* - 20/01/2010 12:39:19 PM 571 Views
Want some sugar with those grapes? *NM* - 20/01/2010 12:41:33 PM 552 Views
Beginning? *NM* - 20/01/2010 12:47:51 PM 519 Views
Right...you just keep thinking that... *NM* - 20/01/2010 02:15:41 PM 530 Views
The beginning!? Ha! *NM* - 20/01/2010 07:47:57 PM 535 Views
This is excellent. I am happy. - 20/01/2010 01:50:22 PM 1059 Views
I'm not really familiar with Coakley or Brown - 20/01/2010 02:22:51 PM 1087 Views
"not the gay things" XD *NM* - 20/01/2010 07:47:00 PM 542 Views
I do hope this doesn't turn Obama into a lame duck. *NM* - 20/01/2010 02:07:34 PM 585 Views
Frankly, I hope it does. *NM* - 20/01/2010 02:15:11 PM 565 Views
Agreed. *NM* - 20/01/2010 10:23:17 PM 561 Views
And then what will happen after that? - 20/01/2010 10:35:46 PM 1231 Views
It would mean, effectively, that Congress controls the domestic agenda and Hillary foreign affairs. - 20/01/2010 10:52:24 PM 899 Views
That's kind of ironic... - 20/01/2010 11:15:05 PM 1236 Views
And condemn more people to untimely deaths? - 20/01/2010 02:33:08 PM 1100 Views
Pity, that there is no government sanctioned murder of the stupid. - 20/01/2010 02:52:52 PM 986 Views
I think the technical term is "dumbicide". - 20/01/2010 03:00:13 PM 1081 Views
Don't the Darwin Awards help with that? *NM* - 20/01/2010 03:50:37 PM 566 Views
Oh dear. - 20/01/2010 07:42:18 PM 1129 Views
Bah! - 20/01/2010 07:45:48 PM 1036 Views
The elderly, eh? Too bad we don't have a program for that. *NM* - 20/01/2010 03:01:40 PM 617 Views
They had their whole lives to save up! F*** 'em. *NM* - 22/01/2010 01:12:20 PM 771 Views
I thought it was time for another such celebration... - 20/01/2010 03:35:28 PM 1103 Views
That thud you heard was the lid dropping on the coffin - 20/01/2010 03:49:21 PM 1111 Views
True, but it is now finally DEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - 21/01/2010 01:08:12 AM 1102 Views
I keep thinking this thread title says, "BROWNS WIN!" - 21/01/2010 02:21:24 PM 1019 Views
Lack of Health Care Reform means American Wage Stagnation - 21/01/2010 06:38:11 PM 1224 Views

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