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No real comments, just 100% agree with you....plus the $12 trillion is terrifying to me. *NM* Brian Send a noteboard - 03/09/2009 04:33:39 AM
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Power-driven wheelchairs are costing Medicare and its beneficiaries nearly four times what suppliers pay for them, and competitive bidding could have reduced those costs, according to an inspector general's report released Wednesday.

Competitive bidding would have cut costs on a standard power wheelchair by nearly $1,000, the report says.

A standard power wheelchair costs the federal health insurance program for seniors an average of $4,018 to lease, compared with $1,048 for suppliers to buy, the Department of Health and Human Services' internal watchdog reported.

"Medicare and its beneficiaries paid suppliers an average of $2,970 beyond the supplier's acquisition cost to perform an average of five services and cover general business costs," the report found.

The difference was not as dramatic for more advanced wheelchairs used for physical rehabilitation patients, but at an average lease of $11,507, those chairs still cost Medicare about twice as much as the $5,880 paid by suppliers, the report found.

More than 173,000 Medicare beneficiaries received power wheelchairs in the first half of 2007, at a cost of about $686 million, the report said. The cost could have been reduced considerably had Congress not delayed a planned system of competitive bidding for what Medicare classifies as "durable medical equipment," such as wheelchairs and oxygen tanks, the report said.

"Medicare and beneficiary payments under the Competitive Bidding Acquisition Program would have decreased by an average of 26 percent across all included categories of [durable medical equipment], saving up to an estimated $1 billion annually," the report found. "However, Congress delayed the program and exempted complex rehabilitation power wheelchairs from future competitive bidding."

Medicare's annual budget for 2008 was $444 billion. In January, it cut its payments to suppliers by 9.5 percent to make up for what it thought competitive bidding would have saved taxpayers, according to the report.

In July, a CNN investigation found that a patient and taxpayers were billed about $1,200 over four years for a nonmotorized chair, while a nearly identical chair could be bought from the same supplier for $349.

The issue has become controversial as the Obama administration tries to overhaul the U.S. health care system and rein in the cost of Medicare.

Administration officials want to require competitive bids for items such as wheelchairs. But the American Association for Homecare, which represents many in the durable equipment industry, said the bidding program would reduce patient choice, limit access to home medical care and drive up Medicare costs by requiring more hospital stays.

If you ever watch 24-hour news networks you'll see DOZENS of commercials encouraging seniors to call so that the company selling the wheelchairs can help them process their Medicare claims. It's yet another example of lobbyists colluding with businesses to steal money from taxpayers. If you follow the link you'll see another link that shows how Medicare paid $1200 for a woman to rent a wheelchair (not automated) that can be bought on the Internet for $350. That's right - a $1200 rental as opposed to a $350 purchase.

The government is tainted with lobbyist money and a bidding system for government contracts that ensures overpayment for everything. Regardless of how you feel about socialized medicine generally, it's a sure bet that our government would fuck it up.

At a time when we're now moving towards $12 TRILLION in debt, roughly a quarter of which is thanks to the Obama Administration alone, we can't afford to keep this up. We can either (1) tax people more and slowly stifle economic growth, which delays a nasty collapse, (2) stop spending, which only buys us roughly 20 years, at which time mandatory spending will exceed revenue, or (3) cut benefits.

The last option isn't something people like to discuss, but let's face it - a government can't (and shouldn't) do everything for people. Why do seniors get powered wheelchairs in the first place? Since when did that become a necessity?
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For Europeans who don't understand why Americans are against ObamaCare - 03/09/2009 04:24:35 AM 1093 Views
I'd be happy to tax top "earners" more and suffer Europes economic "collapse. " - 03/09/2009 04:30:31 AM 565 Views
The US will never work with socialism. - 03/09/2009 04:40:21 AM 656 Views
Re: The US will never work with socialism. - 03/09/2009 04:58:47 AM 650 Views
I don't think the mistrust of the government is really all that overblown - 03/09/2009 05:04:34 AM 565 Views
It's advanced beyond what it was during the Revolution, I think. - 03/09/2009 05:18:22 AM 612 Views
I would say it's grown with the government - 03/09/2009 05:23:52 AM 596 Views
Re: I don't think the mistrust of the government is really all that overblown - 04/09/2009 03:30:23 AM 537 Views
If I lived in France I wouldn't trust the Government either. - 04/09/2009 03:44:55 AM 593 Views
*laughs* the point is taken. *NM* - 04/09/2009 04:24:07 AM 407 Views
Re: The US will never work with socialism. - 04/09/2009 03:28:24 AM 694 Views
How much more can we really tax the wealthy?? - 03/09/2009 04:41:14 AM 498 Views
Sadly, I think going back to the Clinton rates would help - 03/09/2009 04:42:54 AM 485 Views
I'm ok with that....not super excited....but ok with it - 03/09/2009 04:57:32 AM 493 Views
A lot; before Reagans "reforms" we already taxed them less than any other industrialized state did. - 03/09/2009 05:06:00 AM 615 Views
I'm in the lower-middle class tax bracket - 03/09/2009 05:13:39 AM 535 Views
It's both, IMHO. - 03/09/2009 05:29:41 AM 462 Views
I hear a lot of socialism coming from you..... - 03/09/2009 05:19:08 AM 482 Views
Re: I hear a lot of socialism coming from you..... - 03/09/2009 05:40:32 AM 567 Views
Nice non-answer answer..... - 03/09/2009 05:52:04 AM 579 Views
You want detailed answers that require detailed data I don't have. - 03/09/2009 06:06:55 AM 631 Views
Here are some facts and analyses..... - 03/09/2009 02:40:22 PM 653 Views
The Heritage Foundation, huh? - 03/09/2009 03:01:17 PM 689 Views
The non-working wealthy? Please quantify..... - 03/09/2009 03:31:58 PM 667 Views
Paris Hilton? - 04/09/2009 03:43:19 AM 560 Views
You're so full of shit on this issue I don't know where to begin. - 04/09/2009 03:15:55 AM 645 Views
Re: You're so full of shit on this issue I don't know where to begin. - 04/09/2009 03:59:21 AM 733 Views
Less than 200 people were said to be US persons with Swiss accounts - 04/09/2009 04:16:24 AM 533 Views
And yet account for many millions of dollars; what does that say...? - 04/09/2009 04:21:57 AM 572 Views
It's statistically insignificant and your hyperbole is reminiscent of screaming guests on CNN. - 04/09/2009 02:07:31 PM 474 Views
Well, look at this way: - 04/09/2009 02:24:03 PM 604 Views
That's not a solution. - 05/09/2009 02:39:12 AM 621 Views
The Soviets weren't socialist, or even communist, so it's a false comparison. - 05/09/2009 03:09:06 AM 561 Views
Okay, now you've just gone into Kool-aid drinking territory. - 05/09/2009 04:32:07 AM 667 Views
Communist THEORY is predicated on democratic participation at every level,totally absent in the USSR - 05/09/2009 04:55:00 AM 789 Views
FINALLY!!! - 07/09/2009 10:22:53 AM 590 Views
Ever heard of the 20-80 rule? - 04/09/2009 04:28:54 AM 477 Views
Yes, and 90% of people are idiots. - 05/09/2009 02:41:35 AM 772 Views
Re: Yes, and 90% of people are idiots. - 07/09/2009 10:09:30 AM 593 Views
Top earners? Please define.....what income and how much more? *NM* - 03/09/2009 04:52:25 AM 406 Views
That would be open to definition, and should change with inflation. - 03/09/2009 05:13:02 AM 728 Views
What is your justification for taking over 50% of anyone's income? - 03/09/2009 05:28:22 AM 649 Views
That's a good example of why I say the rate has to be set to cost of living. - 03/09/2009 05:50:16 AM 694 Views
Still no comment on the fact that 40% of Americans don't pay any income taxes? - 03/09/2009 02:32:12 PM 618 Views
To what 40% do you refer? - 03/09/2009 02:42:55 PM 478 Views
Dude, you are not making this easy..... - 03/09/2009 03:38:01 PM 512 Views
No one "gets money from the IRS. " - 04/09/2009 02:55:02 AM 533 Views
Actually with EIC you can get money back that you never paid in. - 04/09/2009 02:56:43 AM 509 Views
It MIGHT be possible with the EIC, but in practice few people get more than they paid. - 04/09/2009 03:43:36 AM 551 Views
I don't know, I've known plenty of people that have gotten more back than they paid in - 04/09/2009 03:46:29 AM 640 Views
A neat trick then. - 04/09/2009 04:09:58 AM 640 Views
To be fair - 04/09/2009 04:50:20 AM 579 Views
Ah, gotcha. - 04/09/2009 04:53:58 AM 587 Views
Yet another example of your ignorance on tax policy. - 04/09/2009 03:19:39 AM 466 Views
The word I notice is "welfare" - 04/09/2009 03:57:01 AM 584 Views
I wouldn't say that's what it means.... - 04/09/2009 04:02:40 AM 581 Views
It's what welfare means to me... - 04/09/2009 04:32:17 AM 585 Views
I was just talking about EIC as a form of welfare, not welfare welfare. *NM* - 04/09/2009 04:45:13 AM 368 Views
yes, I get that now. *NM* - 04/09/2009 05:02:53 AM 350 Views
*NM* - 04/09/2009 05:14:01 AM 348 Views
Not necessarily - 04/09/2009 04:11:41 AM 509 Views
*shrugs* I have a soft heart. *NM* - 04/09/2009 04:30:52 AM 357 Views
It's a credit for people who file a return on income that's been taxed. - 04/09/2009 04:19:57 AM 511 Views
It is only for the WORKING poor, yes. - 04/09/2009 02:12:55 PM 500 Views
Mean it may be, but hardly illegal. - 04/09/2009 02:31:16 PM 536 Views
How does the business benefit? - 04/09/2009 04:54:27 PM 521 Views
I didn't realize you meant literal withholding. - 05/09/2009 03:03:32 AM 543 Views
That's a no-no, Joel - 03/09/2009 07:32:03 AM 516 Views
Europe impresses me for one simple reason: - 03/09/2009 09:21:28 AM 602 Views
No real comments, just 100% agree with you....plus the $12 trillion is terrifying to me. *NM* - 03/09/2009 04:33:39 AM 254 Views
If that scares you, check this out! - 03/09/2009 04:48:56 AM 617 Views
Excellent post - the US government is not capable of running HC..... - 03/09/2009 04:40:19 AM 454 Views
There is one thing the government did right - 03/09/2009 04:41:36 AM 574 Views
The bailout, some of it, was necessary..... - 03/09/2009 04:51:03 AM 570 Views
I still think it was too one sided. - 03/09/2009 05:21:45 AM 599 Views
It depends on your level of cynicism - 03/09/2009 05:38:53 AM 624 Views
when have they ever cut the fat? - 03/09/2009 08:35:36 PM 543 Views
Contrary to popular belief, they are quite good at it - 03/09/2009 09:05:15 PM 581 Views
Well there is only one catch *NM* - 03/09/2009 10:56:00 PM 350 Views
This doesn't make sense to me. - 03/09/2009 08:33:18 AM 594 Views
The key phrase is "should be. " - 03/09/2009 09:38:15 AM 733 Views
Re: The key phrase is "should be. " - 03/09/2009 09:47:39 AM 578 Views
That sounds like a good stop gap to me. - 03/09/2009 09:50:57 AM 632 Views
In fairness, most Europeans don't seem to realize what ObamaCare is. - 03/09/2009 02:34:01 PM 603 Views
What makes you think we do? - 03/09/2009 09:11:06 PM 615 Views
Oh, you don't either. I thought that went without saying. *NM* - 03/09/2009 09:25:54 PM 363 Views
As far as most people I know are concerned, opposition to ObamaCare isn't the issue. - 03/09/2009 11:04:36 PM 688 Views
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I can understand horror of governments. - 03/09/2009 11:30:23 PM 463 Views
a bit, yes. *NM* - 04/09/2009 04:08:37 AM 372 Views
For Americans who don't understand why Canadians like their public healthcare. - 04/09/2009 04:23:11 AM 596 Views
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Re: Correction - 04/09/2009 05:05:11 AM 658 Views
In all honesty.... - 04/09/2009 05:18:23 AM 520 Views
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Re: Correction - 04/09/2009 05:24:49 PM 548 Views
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That's a nice theory. - 04/09/2009 02:49:34 PM 600 Views
It's a fact - 04/09/2009 05:21:59 PM 564 Views
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